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ArabRASH
5th June 2008, 16:22
Is anyone else as mad as me about this speech. I knew he was just like the others, but i thought he would at least try to hide it for a while, and not make it so obvious in his first speech after winning the democratic party nomination! UNDIVIDED JERUSALEM? Israel captured eastern jerusalem in 1967!

So funny how he preaches "change" and then goes and does exactly the same thing every other candidate does: tell the lobbyists exactly what they want to hear, no matter how wrong they are.

Holden Caulfield
5th June 2008, 16:40
yeah i watched it live on BBC 24, just goes to show the sorry state of the american left if this guy is viewed as a liberal,

he talked of Iran as a threat as well, so expect a war there...

and he wants free and open democracy, as long as Hamas don't stand, i might be wrong but i that seems a tad contradictory...

ArabRASH
5th June 2008, 16:48
AIPAC must be destroyed. They are to blame for the war in iraq, the sanction on Iran, the Lebanon war, and the pro-israeli position of the US.

Holden Caulfield
5th June 2008, 17:00
i think every lobbyist group in America needs destroyed and the media moguls before true democracy can ever exsist in America

YKTMX
5th June 2008, 19:00
A really pitiful pander. It seems outside even the "official" state department policy. But it's a game every American politician must play - particularly a Democrat with his cultural/racial background.

RoterAnarchie
5th June 2008, 19:15
The Speech:
http://www.barackobama.com/2008/06/04/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam_74.php

some quotes I find relevant...


Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow, and forever.



The story made a powerful impression on me. I had grown up without a sense of roots. My father was black, he was from Kenya, and he left us when I was two. My mother was white, she was from Kansas, and I'd moved with her to Indonesia and then back to Hawaii. In many ways, I didn't know where I came from. So I was drawn to the belief that you could sustain a spiritual, emotional and cultural identity. And I deeply understood the Zionist idea – that there is always a homeland at the center of our story.


It was just a few years after the liberation of the camps that David Ben-Gurion declared the founding of the Jewish State of Israel. We know that the establishment of Israel was just and necessary, rooted in centuries of struggle, and decades of patient work. But 60 years later, we know that we cannot relent, we cannot yield, and as President I will never compromise when it comes to Israel's security.


I have been proud to be a part of a strong, bi-partisan consensus that has stood by Israel in the face of all threats. That is a commitment that both John McCain and I share, because support for Israel in this country goes beyond party. But part of our commitment must be speaking up when Israel's security is at risk, and I don't think any of us can be satisfied that America's recent foreign policy has made Israel more secure.


The threats to Israel start close to home, but they don't end there. Syria continues its support for terror and meddling in Lebanon. And Syria has taken dangerous steps in pursuit of weapons of mass destruction, which is why Israeli action was justified to end that threat.



The Iranian regime supports violent extremists and challenges us across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race, and raise the prospect of a transfer of nuclear know-how to terrorists. Its President denies the Holocaust and threatens to wipe Israel off the map. The danger from Iran is grave, it is real, and my goal will be to eliminate this threat.