Bad luck in hat draw for debate pt. 2

[Comrade B]

For those of you unfamiliar with the original posting, I have been randomly selected in a class to argue that the United States should not have left Vietnam.

I have decided to make myself appear to be a conservative joke. My argument will have intentionally placed holes in it, and I will sound like a conservative buffoon.

Tomorrow is the debate, and my partner and I were going to write our speeches after school today. They are not answering their phone.

I guess this is my "go ahead" to make the most disgustingly conservative, racist, and idiotic speech ever for my side of the argument. Any suggestions?

I have decided to make part of it "Our founding fathers built this country on the dream of an upper class, white, Christian male favoring country. By giving up to the heathen commies, who stand for class equality and other evils, we are not only letting Uncle Sam down, we are letting God down."

[Dust Bunnies]

Too much on the American part. How about

Our founding fathers built this country on the dream of prosperity and religious freedom. By giving up Vietnam to the evil Communists we let the people drown in poverty and get killed for thinking what they want. We are not only letting Uncle Sam down, but the Vietnamese.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

Your argument may ascribe the actual intent of neo-conservatives, but I think you may want to tone it down for the sake of getting a good grade.

I find the intentional derailed argument route amusing. Perhaps you can bring up the CIA (and Eisenhower's) recognition that 80% of all Vietnamese, North and South, would have elected Ho Chi Minh as president if democratic elections were implemented.:laugh:

[Psy]

For those of you unfamiliar with the original posting, I have been randomly selected in a class to argue that the United States should not have left Vietnam.

I have decided to make myself appear to be a conservative joke. My argument will have intentionally placed holes in it, and I will sound like a conservative buffoon.

Tomorrow is the debate, and my partner and I were going to write our speeches after school today. They are not answering their phone.

I guess this is my "go ahead" to make the most disgustingly conservative, racist, and idiotic speech ever for my side of the argument. Any suggestions?

I have decided to make part of it "Our founding fathers built this country on the dream of an upper class, white, Christian male favoring country. By giving up to the heathen commies, who stand for class equality and other evils, we are not only letting Uncle Sam down, we are letting God down."

I think talking like an old time imperialist would be better, of how the people of Vietnam were not ready for freedom (pointing to most supported Ho Chi Minh), and being colonized by the USA would bring civilization to Vietnam and only fair for the US to exploit to situation for its own imperial interests (old time imperialists used the word imperialism as they saw it as a good thing).

[Wake Up]

Focus only on benefits for the USA. Do not mention the Vietnamese people once.
make people realize what the true argument of the USA is (or was)

[mikelepore]

Probably the most common "reasoning" given by supporters of the war was this: After a thousand U.S. fatalities: "If we leave now, a thousand of our boys will have died for nothing. So now we can't stop." So then it increased to five thousand. "If we leave now, five thousand of our boys will have died for nothing. So now we can't stop." So it increased to twenty thousand. "If we leave now, twenty thousand of our boys will have died for nothing. So now we can't stop." Eventually it got to fifty thousand plus U.S. casualties, and most people decided, okay, that should be enough. Finally, under public pressure, the congress took away Nixon's funding for it.

Through that entire process it was rare to hear anyone mention the millions of Vietnamese casualties. Even inside the antiwar movement it was usually worry about "our boys" and about the antiwar cause being the "true patriotism."

Mike Lepore (54 years old -- saw and heard it)

[Comrade B]

Hey, read all your stuff a bit late, this was my opening speech

The United States’ decision to pull out of Vietnam was a terrible one with horrible consequences. By pulling out of Vietnam, the United States not only abandoned their allies, but proved that we have also abandoned the wishes of our founding fathers. Great men like Washington, John Adams, and Alexander Hamilton built this country on the belief that all white property owning men have the right to prosper over others and celebrate their lord and savior Jesus Christ. The North Vietnamese leaders are soulless heathen Commies who believe in such ridiculous oppressive ideals as class equality. The creator of the evil book “The Communist Manifesto” compared the belief in god to the use of opiates. Do we want these heathens ruling a country? I know I don’t. By leaving Vietnam, we not only let down Uncle Sam and our founding fathers and allies, but we let down God.
The opposition will claim that we were losing Vietnam and forced to pull out, but when we look at statistics, we can see that there were only 300 American deaths in the last year of the war. We can also observe that after the United States left Vietnam, there were a total of 165518 South Vietnamese military casualties.
Under communism, South Vietnam also became one of the world’s poorest countries, with a GDP of (insert here). Their currency is worth (insert here) in comparison to the US dollar and over half of the country lives in poverty. We discarded our belief in a free market due to what, the words of a well known news reporter? Clearly, the results of leaving Vietnam in the manner we did, were unacceptable.
My opponents will also claim that communism is also not truly a threat to our beloved country. They would be neglecting that people of the same political stance as the North Vietnamese, in 1962, threatened our beloved nation with nuclear weapons. We cannot allow communism to spread in the world, else have ourselves threatened once more by nuclear war.

We started late though, and are going to be doing our rebuttal tomorrow. I will try to take some suggestions from you guys on this part