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Rebelde
30th May 2008, 17:27
hello comrades, i have a few questions i'd like help with. In a communist society will i still be the owner of my own home? and will their be restriction's on how much land i can own? what if i my parent's want to pass their house on to me or my sibling's? or will the state forbid it? the same goes with owning a car,boat,etc.?
#FF0000
30th May 2008, 20:25
Well, I don't know about the actual land to be quite honest. The house and all of your possessions, however, are yours. When Communists and Anarchists talk about Private Property, they mean property such as the machines, the factories, the farms, and land, which can be used to create wealth. Your car, your MP3 player, your computer, and all of your personal items are yours. Marx addresses this in the Communist Manifesto, saying
" Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Do you mean the property of petty artisan and of the small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily."Hope that answers your question.
EDIT: As a note, the Government will not exist in a communist society. What you are thinking of is commonly called a Socialist society, in which the People (supposedly) control the means of production through the State. A communist society has no government. It is stateless, and classless, and is the next step after socialism. :)
hello comrades, i have a few questions i'd like help with.
Sure.:)
In a communist society will i still be the owner of my own home
It depends what you mean by ownership. You will live in and have control over your own house.
and will their be restriction's on how much land i can own?
There won't be "ownership" of land. At least not in the way there is now.
what if i my parent's want to pass their house on to me or my sibling's?
Inheritance won't exist in the traditional sense. But you could probably live in the same house as your parents.
or will the state forbid it? the same goes with owning a car,boat,etc.
Communist societies don't have states.
Rebelde
31st May 2008, 01:20
"It depends what you mean by ownership. You will live in and have control over your own house."
I mean the land that my home sit's on,would i own that?
"There won't be "ownership" of land. At least not in the way there is now."
I'm assuming you mean vast ownership of land?
"Inheritance won't exist in the traditional sense. But you could probably live in the same house as your parents."
That still doesn't really answer my question. Who would decide if i could or couldn't?
No one's going to take your house away in a communist society, because there's no state to take it away. As long as you don't bother people, they won't bother you. Land will be collectively "owned." I would also encourage you not to think of things in the context of ownership. It's not that you can't own private property; it's that there's no such thing as private property. This doesn't mean the state is going to take away your house, computer, food, or furniture, though, since there is no state in communism. What it does mean is that you can't forcefully hoard a factory and the stuff produced in it for yourself when other people need them.
gla22
31st May 2008, 01:35
The problem with your question is that there is alot of different branches of socialism, communism and anarchism so the answer to your question will be slightly different based on the ideology.
"In a communist society will i still be the owner of my own home?" Your home, yes. The land that you live on? mabey. land may be used collectively or possibly distributed. There will be restrictions on how much you can own and you wont be able to use it to get more money. IE: renting it out. For passing stuff on it may be possible day land is distributed, you can pass your land on but the sibling won't get an additional piece of land. Or inheritance might be banned completely.
I mean the land that my home sit's on,would i own that?
Again. What do you mean by ownership?
I'm assuming you mean vast ownership of land?
Again, what do you mean by ownership? There will not be any ownership of land in a Communist society at all, at least under a normal definition of ownership as it exists under capitalism.
You could use land. Your house would have a certain quantity of land associated with it. How much would be defined by society based on the material conditions at any given time such as population density, agricultural necessities, etc.
That still doesn't really answer my question. Who would decide if i could or couldn't?
The problem with this question is two fold: 1.) there won't be "ownership of property" int the capitalist sense of the word ownership so inheritance as it is currently conceived would be obsolete. 2.) You are asking me to predict the future. A Communist society will governed by popular democracy. They will establish these kinds of policy issues and any predictions we make here are simply predictions. All that we can say for certain comes out of what would objectively and necessarily follow after the achievement Communism insofar as Communism is defined as a set of objective factors.
trivas7
31st May 2008, 02:49
Possessions used by individuals for the personal use I've heard called personal property by old Progress Publishers (Soviet) handbooks.
gla22
31st May 2008, 03:08
Possessions used by individuals for the personal use I've heard called personal property by old Progress Publishers (Soviet) handbooks.
Yeah that is what marx referred to it as. Small amounts of land might be able to become "personal" property, your home would be most likely.
Yeah that is what marx referred to it as. Small amounts of land might be able to become "personal" property, your home would be most likely.
Correct. That's what I mean by the various meanings of ownership. There needs to be a distinction between personal and private property.
Rebelde
3rd June 2008, 03:07
so would it be right to say that in a communist society land is viewed as something you cant own because it is a part of the earth and no one own's earth?
so would it be right to say that in a communist society land is viewed as something you cant own because it is a part of the earth and no one own's earth?
You don't own it because it is part of the means of production which are owned collectively.
Rebelde
6th June 2008, 01:01
so depending on the size of land my house sit's on,it would be considered personal property?
gla22
6th June 2008, 01:11
yes, personal as you own it but there maybe restrictions on inheritance.
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