Who will start the revolution in the U.S?

[Voice_of_Reason]

Who will start the revolution/civil war in the U.S

This thought of course has occurred to me and probably many others. Which group of people will start the revolution in the U.S. Communist, Anarchist, Socialist, or Old-School Americans. Old-School Americans basically means the Americans who still believe what this country was founded upon, and still follow the constitution which is being broke every day. For the longest time I had it set in my mind that all groups would work together to overthrow the government. I’m starting to realize that Communist, Socialists and Anarchists , and Americans could work together, But this is simply a fantasy because afterwards it would spark wars between the classes. I personally think that the revolution or Civil war will happen in the U.S when our currency finally plummets and people have no food. Then your average person that isn’t any of the above classes will be in for at least supporting a revolution. My question is when things are said and done who will start the revolution and who will finish it.

[Svante]

Labour will start this but there must organise.there must organise i n Canada allso. the queston,who will lead the militaire?

[MAVA]

that is a good point

[Mariner's Revenge]

I would expect a race based revolution to occur before an economic revolution in the United States. But, the race based revolution would probably include an economic one as well.

So, my answer is: parties that are not created yet.

[Voice_of_Reason]

would expect a race based revolution to occur before an economic revolution in the United States.
This would be on a very small scale we are already looking at a war between Hispanics and Africans. I doubt that white people will get involved.

Well our currency is dropping every single day, even the major named economists have stated that there is going to be hyper-inflation in the U.S.


the queston,who will lead the militaire?I'm guessing It would be a group of some sort of course and they will have a figure head just like most other revolutions (I'm guessing)

[Mariner's Revenge]

This would be on a very small scale we are already looking at a war between Hispanics and Africans. I doubt that white people will get involved.
No, I am talking about a united race based revolution where people from all "races" lead a humanistic front and culture that will overtake the existing white supremest social structure. Their enemy will be the same as leftists so I would expect the two revolutions to go hand in hand.

The two goals will essentially be the same except race and class will be interchangeable. I will look at everyone, no matter the class, as an individual. I will look at everyone, no matter the "race", as an individual.

We do have to remember that the social structure in the United States is much different than any other country that has had a leftist revolution, especially European countries. While a little different, race and class do have many similarities and both groups are oppressed in the same way by the same group (I am obviously simplifying it). Once middle and working class whites realize that racism actually hurts them in the long run and we as a population deny the entire idea of race, along with the other premises of revolution, we should start to expect changes.

A leftist revolution where we divide ourselves by race or any other factor will only result in failure. It is just that I expect people of color to become revolutionary much faster than whites because they face greater oppression, hence my first statement.

[Voice_of_Reason]

It is just that I expect people of color to become revolutionary much faster than whites because they face greater oppression, hence my first statement.

There are just as many white people pissed with our current government as African Americans and Hispanics, the white people are just waiting until there lobster supply runes out ;)

[Mariner's Revenge]

There are just as many white people pissed with our current government as African Americans and Hispanics, the white people are just waiting until there lobster supply runes out ;)
Yes, but the intensity is greater in African Americans and Hispanics then in whites, leading them to mobilize faster. Also, the upper class will try to hold onto the white middle and working class population with racist propaganda so that will serve as a brief but strong obstacle.

Think about it. Who will have the strongest propaganda voice when mass blaming starts? Who will be blamed by them?

[Dros]

We will. (rwor.org)

[Voice_of_Reason]

NO They Will! http://www.animalmedctr.com/images/cat_revolution.jpg

[chegitz guevara]

Me. I will start the revolution in the U.S.

[Dros]

Me. I will start the revolution in the U.S.

:lol:

[rouchambeau]

I thought Criss said he would do it.

[Digitalism]

nobody will. at least not in a few decades IF that.

[BIG BROTHER]

No, no yo guys are all wrong, i'll start a guerrilla foco in central park new york and start the revolution!

[Die Neue Zeit]

The solidarity of manual, clerical, AND PROFESSIONAL proletarians (plus also the proper, hired lumpenproles like prostitutes and low-level gangsters) :)

[Cossack]

There are just as many white people pissed with our current government as African Americans and Hispanics, the white people are just waiting until there lobster supply runes out ;)

You racist, :laugh:

I've got a question though, If we as communists seek to help mankind and capitalism collapses upon itself eventually, wouldn't it happen faster if we lived as capitalists?

we would create more problems and so help destroy capitalism by being capitalistic right?

if we act as communists in a capitalistic society it kind of counter balances the problems created by the capitalists dosen't it?

[More Fire for the People]

Who? My bets on the proletariat.

[High Voltage]

Well I'd have to see the figure-heads before I decide. I'd say that whoever is the most silver tongued and inspires the most hope. And whoever gets control of radio stations, tv, and press during the chaos will have a distinct advantage of brainwashing. Also depends on how many leftist/rightist groups pop-up and how long the rightists and leftists come under one force. One force of rightists can take down a divided leftist forces and vice versa. But we can try to make sure the facists dont rise to power (if there's an attempted coup de'etat) by guerilla bands acting as one through a connected media (radio, internet, and messengers). That kind of underground unity will make sure the popular forces are the ones that throw the real revolution.

[Plagueround]

Well I'd have to see the figure-heads before I decide. I'd say that whoever is the most silver tongued and inspires the most hope. And whoever gets control of radio stations, tv, and press during the chaos will have a distinct advantage of brainwashing. Also depends on how many leftist/rightist groups pop-up and how long the rightists and leftists come under one force. One force of rightists can take down a divided leftist forces and vice versa. But we can try to make sure the facists dont rise to power (if there's an attempted coup de'etat) by guerilla bands acting as one through a connected media (radio, internet, and messengers). That kind of underground unity will make sure the popular forces are the ones that throw the real revolution.

The first thing you would need to do for the left to stand a chance against a legion of right-wingers is convince the moderate left and left-liberals their stance on gun control is absolutely wrong. :lol:

[RHIZOMES]

Proletariat.

[mykittyhasaboner]

the bourgeoisie, they will overthrow themselves.

[Kropotesta]

Ron Paul has started it!

[mykittyhasaboner]

Ron Paul has started it!:lol: dont forget the "CHANGE!" Obama will bring!

[Hawksarepointless]

As much as I would want to believe that our most beneficent revolution will happen, I sometimes come to the conclusion It wont. Capitalism has become ingrained into the psyche of practically all mainstream americans. To undo that, would be to collapse the minds of americans, and they would definetely not be happy about that. In addition, If a proleterian revolution was to unfold, the proles would be looked upon as mere recalcitrants and be crushed by the might of all the world's Bourgeois-led governments.

If any revolution is to happen, it needs to be slow; coupled with education about Marxist principles.

Quick revolution always benefits the reactionaries.

Look at the French for instance...