Censorship? - of profanity?

[Field Marshal]

What do you guys think of this? My school, who claims to be for the freedom of speech, draws the line at "sucks." Profanity is against the rules.

Lets keep it on profanity please, and what arguements could I use against my school's administration. Or if you are pro-censorship, please tell me why.

Here's something to get us started: T. V. PROFANITY
Violates My Civil Rights! http://www.llano.net/baptist/tvprofanity.htm

[Nateddi]

Profanity is pointless. Children should not be allowed to curse. If children are allowed to curse, you might as well allow to scream fire in a movie theater.

btw, here you go field:

http://www.ascotia.com/upload/prole.jpg

[Field Marshal]

haha sweet! I've been looking for that, and the capitalist system pyramid.

Just because it is pointless doesn't mean it should be censored in high school, which I attend, and which is the subject of the matter.

Does anyone know the orgin of "bad" words? My theory is that people who couldnt' afford an education had to use words that were not in the English language. Once this became common within the lower classes, the upper class found another thing that distinguished them from the poor. Then when upper class children were being raised, they were told that these were "bad words."

Well nobody wants their child to be "bad," so this is now a common household tradition. Any other thoughts?

[canikickit]

"Sucks" - I don't think it's vulgar, it has negative connotations, but people don't think of them at this stage, it has just become a term of distaste. I personally feel that the school does have the responsibility to keep tabs on the use of language of its students. "Bad language" can be used distastefully, and I'm sure we all agree there are certain situations where one should not use bad language. If people, especially younger, impressionable people get into the habit of being profane, they will perhaps use bad language in some of these situations. Therefore I think profanity should be against the rules.

Profanity is not pointless, it is a way of expressing yourself. Not everyone can be as articulate as they would wish to be. The comparison between so called "cursing" and shouting in a movie theater, strikes me as quite ridiculous.

That article is stupid. I don't see how it is a violition of his civil rights. He is free to turn of the T.V., it is not inhibiting him in any way. His whole argument is flawed. If he succeeds in his campaign, he will be violating the civil rights of Television networks, and the rights of the creators of these programs.

[Field Marshal]

Well what about this example:

I am the head of a "history and politics club" and we wanted to watch "Steal This Movie," but the school didnt' allow it because of several things in the movie which were deemed, inappropiate.

[canikickit]

FUCK stands for Fully Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.
Shit is shit.

I think the origin comes from the fact that they are unclean.
Your explanation was quite imaginative.

[Field Marshal]

well my thing is based on no research, but I'd like to know where I could find your claims.

You think people should censor "bad" words for high school students? I think we're all mature enough to handle that. It's bullshit. haha

[canikickit]

That depends on what the film's rating was. If you are underage, you legally are not supposed to view the film.
There can be exceptions made, if the school believed it was important that you saw the film and they felt you were mature enough to watch it.
I think that if you are the head of this "history and politics club" and the movie is relevant (I don't know about it), they should allow it, but I don't think they will change their mind really.

[canikickit]

Here is some shit about the origins of the word "fuck" (http://eth0.net/shawn/humor/Etymology%20of%20Fuck) which actually shows me to be slightly wrong. anyway my com[puter is trying to crash...must..post..


Okay more fucking (http://www.urbanlegends.com/language/etymology/fuck/fuck_references.html)

From the Mirriam-Webster online dictionary:
Etymology: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka to copulate
Date: 1503

(Edited by canikickit at 3:47 am on Sep. 19, 2002)

[Field Marshal]

Well I've learned something new. But I still think that I should be able to freely cuss and not get in trouble for it.

And it offends none of the students, I took a poll of all the students in the school, none of them care about the use of "bad" words.

[munkey soup]

I've heard (from an English teacher) that the origion of fuck comes from England back in the day(not sure when). But when police(or whatever type of enforcement personal) arrested prostitutes or their johns, they'd right down "fuck": short for "for unlawful carnal knowledge," in their report.

But I could be wrong.

[American Kid]

I think it should be up to the individual teacher in the classroom whether it's okay to swear or not. A tearcher's classroom should be their castle. I had some teachers who sweared themselves sometimes. I don't think it's a big deal, though. And I'm sorry, but I don't know what to suggest, brah.

-AK

[Moskitto]

I agree with AK.

But generally I don't think it's a good idea walking into Biology shouting "Biology is Shit." You have to be sensible with regard to profanity.