Why dones't revleft get more involed ?

[Davie zepeda]

I ask a question to most member's on this board .
Why haven't most of you gone out and try to raise class consuines im not saying none of you have tried but we have such a large base on this site that people seeing a movement on the streets would cause those who are demoralize to once again get involved in this movement.

All i ask is all you to talk about your involvement and how we can improve on each others work in the community and how maybe we can organize a class awakening day a event which will spark the movement once again .

[Bright Banana Beard]

life issue, region doesn't have any movement, study at college, but you need to reminds yourself that we don't live on the ideology, we simple living our life.

[Kropotesta]

Good thread, though I'm pretty sure most of the revleft members are active, or, atleast, I'd like to think they are.

[Holden Caulfield]

join a real life group, revleft is an internet site...

[KrazyRabidSheep]

I don't know about now, be we used to do much protest discussion.

Like what articles of clothing to wear to keep from getting caught by to police, where protests were, what they were, etc., etc., et cetera.

I'm relatively lucky as far as protest prospects go; I've lived in the states (St. Louis) for over 10 years now. Earlier this month there was a protest at a local university (Wash U.) over the recent honourary degree given to Phyllis Schlafly. http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/political-fix/political-fix/2008/05/schlafly-campus-critics-have-too-much-time/
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/paper-trail/2008/5/16/wash-u-students-turn-backs-to-phyllis-schlafly.html
Over half of the students and faculty wore white armbands and faced away from her during the actual grad ceremony.

Additionally, there are regular protests at an airforce base just out of town (Scott Airforce Base).

One problem is the members are so widely dispersed globally, so don't count on an actual revleft protest, but if you know of something in a large city, let us know.
Likewise, if you go to one near yourself, go ahead and tell us about it, and we'll offer any support and advice we can.

[Mariner's Revenge]

Protests won't necessarily accomplish much if not well timed and aimed at an impressionable audience. If I go out to protest about a working class revolution I will probably just be labeled as just another commie or anarchists, which would not help my goal.

Right now, especially in the United States, education and promoting free thinking would be the best activism goal in my opinion. Once the time comes, protests and more direct activism will have a much greater effect.

[Dros]

It may seem like there are a lot of people here, and indeed there are. But 10,000 odd people for the entire world doesn't add up to much. There are a lot more leftists who aren't on this site but our movement is still tiny in the grand scheme of things.

But most of us are active.

[Sam_b]

join a real life group, revleft is an internet site...

True dat.

[Kami]

Revleft is nothing more than a discussion board; it is not a political group of any sort (hell, can you imagine some of the opposing opinions here trying to form one political entity?). I imagine many members who are active, are active with their own political groups.
That said, seeing information on upcoming protests and the like would be nice ^^

[InTheMatterOfBoots]

The contradictory, and often directly opposed, strands within Revleft would make the prospects for any kind of collective action dismal (to say the least). Not that that is necessarily a bad thing. I may enjoy debating Maoists, Trotskyists, Stalinists and Hoxhaists but i would NEVER work with them. Personally, I am very active building class consciousness in my locality and incredibly active in the organisations I am a member of. I am sure many RevLeft posters can say the same.

[Dimentio]

I ask a question to most member's on this board .
Why haven't most of you gone out and try to raise class consuines im not saying none of you have tried but we have such a large base on this site that people seeing a movement on the streets would cause those who are demoralize to once again get involved in this movement.

All i ask is all you to talk about your involvement and how we can improve on each others work in the community and how maybe we can organize a class awakening day a event which will spark the movement once again .

800 people dispatched all over the world could blend in quite easily.

[BIG BROTHER]

this is just a site to discuss theory and ideas.

Everybody who wants to be active does it on their own.

[piet11111]

no movement where i live and i doubt it would be viable if i attempted to start one.

[apathy maybe]

I masturbate.

I also steal chocolate.


And both of these actions do about as much good as what various other RevLefters do. Even those who are "active".

[Pawn Power]

life issue, region doesn't have any movement, study at college, but you need to reminds yourself that we don't live on the ideology, we simple living our life.

You don't think there are any 'movements' to get involved with in Florida!? What University to you go to? PM me and perhaps I can see whats near to you.

[Colonello Buendia]

I'm fairly involved in demos and protests and general activism but I do not act as a member of revleft, I act as an angry annarkiddy who wants change

[union6]

I masturbate.

I also steal chocolate.


And both of these actions do about as much good as what various other RevLefters do. Even those who are "active".

quoted for greatness

and yea as others have said, Revleft is just a internet site its not a actual group, im sure there are loads of spin offs that have sprung from revleft which are active groups in certain areas.

[hekmatista]

Revleft'ers who already belong to a hard left group, this is not addressed to you;your org will already have a strategic approach of their own on how to inject class-consciousness into the hundreds of actual three dimensional struggles that actual ideologically clueless people are engaged in just to survive. For USA comrades, if nothing else, surely there is a local antiwar group, probably currently dominated by pacifists, liberals, and worse, that you could be nudging toward a more anti-imperialist line. Better would be work in your union, but I realize many young people don't have an opportunity to hold a unionized job. If you are working in a unorganized job, consider joining IWW, reading some practical suggestions on organizing, and slowly learn as you go with your workmates. In the USA, least-common-denominator class consciousness is so undeveloped that introducing ANY ideas for collective action against the boss would be progress.

[Bright Banana Beard]

You don't think there are any 'movements' to get involved with in Florida!? What University to you go to? PM me and perhaps I can see whats near to you.

I am referring to majority of us, not just me. I basically live in Southwest Florida and the only good movement is Immokalee Farmer Coalition, which is fighting for more raise for each tomatoes they packs.

[thejambo1]

revleft can be used as a tool to get and bounce ideas of other people. it is also too diverse with a wide variance of leftist ideas, that would never come to anything. use it for ideas, and go and do something with an organised group.

[Mindtoaster]

I don't know about now, be we used to do much protest discussion.

Like what articles of clothing to wear to keep from getting caught by to police, where protests were, what they were, etc., etc., et cetera.

I'm relatively lucky as far as protest prospects go; I've lived in the states (St. Louis) for over 10 years now. Earlier this month there was a protest at a local university (Wash U.) over the recent honourary degree given to Phyllis Schlafly.
Over half of the students and faculty wore white armbands and faced away from her during the actual grad ceremony.

Additionally, there are regular protests at an airforce base just out of town (Scott Airforce Base).

One problem is the members are so widely dispersed globally, so don't count on an actual revleft protest, but if you know of something in a large city, let us know.
Likewise, if you go to one near yourself, go ahead and tell us about it, and we'll offer any support and advice we can.

Errr, sorry for the off-topic question: But you don't happen to be a student at Wash-U or an alumni do you? If so does it have a large leftist community? Its a university I'm strongly considering attending.

As to the subject of the thread, I feel pretty powerless at the moment, being seventeen. Theres an anarchist bookstore in new orleans, and I'm sure I could get involved with a black bloc through there but uh... I'm not really sure I would be able to do much protesting with them. I live in the south so obviously there aren't many leftists at all, so the only thing I really do right now is troll the internet and argue at school.... Its pretty sad =/

[KrazyRabidSheep]

I masturbate.

I also steal chocolate.


And both of these actions do about as much good as what various other RevLefters do. Even those who are "active".
True, sad, but most importantly, funny.

What I find is one of the most frustrating parts of belonging to any far left group (whether political or just buddies) is how many aren't truly committed.

Some will tell you they'll see you at the protest or whatever, but chicken out.

Some are just immature individuals going through an anti-conformity or anti-authority stage (just to spite their parents or whatever). Sometimes these people do expose themselves to the cause, learn about it, and stay with it. Kudos to them.
Others don't. There are many "members" of revleft who have posted only a handful of times then quit. They haven't posted for years. I believe some of them are this.

The worst part is the latter group gives the serious, committed far-lefties a bad name. Sometimes we all are called immature, or accused of rebelling just to start trouble.

Whoa. . .I didn't mean to, but I seem to have ranted on a bit. . .



. . .masturbation WITH stolen chocolate. . .now there's an idea :drool:

[Davie zepeda]

good suggestion most of the stuff i heard is negative how about some postives