Look at what you have created

[samaniego]

This area was designed for people to debate, instead with people being banned and popularity contest this site has become as sorry as any communist country. Is this your idea of what communism should be? Kids with far to much time on their hands, and with a desire to be different, thats all many of you are. Talk to your parents don't be a commie.

[Mazdak]

Go to hell. The only reason certain things were posted here was so the cappies good respond.

I admit i have alot of time on my hands, but i assure you i am not pretending anything. You are an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Friends don't let friends become communists.

[samaniego]

Hey MAS-PITO, you just proved my point by the way in which you responded. Mazdak until you start a revolution you don't have my respect.

[samaniego]

One more thing Mazda... I thought you didn't believe in hell. Or did your big brother tell you to say that?

[Mazdak]

WTF is your problem *****? I dont believe in hell. It is a figure of speech dumbass. I am an only child as well.

The way i responded was reactionary to the way you posted, making the most of us look like spoiled little kids. I can say there are probably a few here, but you are belittiling everyone.

Before you even tried to defend god!!! ROFLMAO!! I dont want to waste any times with people who actaully believe something is pathetic as organized religion, which you seem to defend(at least in earlier threads).

[antieverything]

Shut the fuck up...yes, you too.

[Anonymous]

Who me? :smile:

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 5:12 am on Sep. 17, 2002)

[RedCeltic]

this forum was desgined to get rid of cappie spam

(Edited by RedCeltic at 7:07 pm on Sep. 16, 2002)

[Xvall]

Hmm, let's take a look at the title!

Internationalist Forum for Che Admirers

Does it say Intenationalist Forum for people to Debate, or Internatlialist Forum as a Communist Country? No. Any popularity contests are started by members; and unless you want us to restrict (Something you just yelled at us for) popularity contests, I don't see any alternatives. People aren't banned often; in fact, the only people banned are those who express racist views or those who break the forum rules. Capitalists are Restricted to Socialism Vs. Capitalism because that is where they belong; why should Capitalists be runnign amok in threads designed to discuss left-wing literature and music? Why should they be allowed in threads to discuss communist/socialist unity? As bad as any communist country? A communist country has never existed; and at the rate you're going, It never will.

[Field Marshal]

how ironic that the person to post that the forum has been derailed, is the one who copy-pasted and left it to that.

How lame...

But if you truly want to be on the left, you must be socially tolerant of others around you, unless they're dangerous.

[Field Marshal]

whoops, MaxB does all the copy-pasting.

oh well, Samneigo supports MaxB, so it's the same thing.

[Guest]

didn't samaniego used to be a leftist? didn't he used to have the rage against the machine avatar? it seems that he started a very unexpected crusade against the left in the last few days. any ideas?

[Guest]

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=14&topic=181 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=14&topic=181)
- anti police brutality

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=14&topic=109 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=14&topic=109)
- zapatista festival

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=13&topic=198 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=13&topic=198)
- admits capitalism is wrong

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=19&topic=131 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=19&topic=131)
- first post; though openely undecided on politics, he gives respect to socialism.

[Mazdak]

I was thinking the same thing unknown guest.

[Anonymous]

Either he's faking it (god only knows why), or he has actually converted and is now a capitalist.

[American Kid]

Now let's not bastardize the forum.

This place is a good place. This is the shit that makes the world go 'round. We're talking. We're arguing. We're exchanging ideas. It's good. And fuckin' a it's a popularity contest.

saminego (sic, sorry) nice to meet you. How's everything?

I'm the Kid.

I'm with you, I'd no sooner live under a communist or wholly socialist state than I would dive head first into a volcano. I think Lardlad said it perfectly, communism is oppressive, politically. (granted he said capitalism is oppresive economically, but, uh yeah....)

It's pretty, like most ideals and "theories", but it's also dangerous and deadly. Sort of like plutonium.

Don't criticize these "kids" (and that's what they are, really) for their beliefs, so young. I was thinking a lot about this, and if it's one thing I respect in a person above all else, it's conviction. Unless you're vox. He's an intolerant asshole who's recently grown jealous of my nascent celebrity. But anyway, let's not waste time with such plankton........

The point is, exactly, LOOK WHAT WE'VE CREATED. It's wonderful. We're thinking, exchanging, living. We're not agreeing, but fuck agreeing. Who wants to agree? 'S pussy shit. And the ironic part is (and my personal favorite) is if half of the people in this board had their way, politically, it wouldn't exist at all.

But it does. And in my book that's one for the good guys.

For all my communist and socialist bro's and brahs (and capitlalists for that matter)

Word.
-AK

[RedCeltic]

I think Lardlad said it perfectly, communism is oppressive, politically. (granted he said capitalism is oppresive economically, but, uh yeah....)

It is.

[American Kid]

:).........................I'm all subtext, Mike.

Always keep 'em guessing.
-AK

[Xvall]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 2:33 am on Sep. 17, 2002

I think Lardlad said it perfectly, communism is oppressive, politically. (granted he said capitalism is oppresive economically, but, uh yeah....)

Real communists would realize that Marx intended there to be no state; how can a stateless society be opressive?
It is.

[Nateddi]

communism is a higher stage of marxist philosophy. right-wingers class “communism” as any attempt at such theory, thereby classing marxism as communism and socialism as communism. marxism ("communism") may very well be regarded as a theory with oppressive states, depending on how it is viewed as. it depends on the context, as well as one's personal definition of a broad philosophical concept such as oppression.

[samaniego]

Great research there guest!!! I never claimed to be a cappie. I guess any one who disagrees with the flaws of communism is a cappie to you. The rage avatar was used to symbolize the plight of the mexican people, thus the brown hands and maiz. I do like them but thats doesn't make me a commie.

[Felicia]

Quote: from Drake Dracoli on 9:14 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
Hmm, let's take a look at the title!

Internationalist Forum for Che Admirers

Does it say Intenationalist Forum for people to Debate, or Internatlialist Forum as a Communist Country? No.


It does say that, but if you look at the title of this forum Socialism vs Capialism. The vs automatically implies that the two are pitted against each other, therefore aluding to dabate.


(Edited by felicia at 6:10 pm on Sep. 21, 2002)

[Frosty]

Let's compare this forum with a forum for a particular computer game, like Morrowind.
The intention is to discuss that particular game, except if there is a "general discussion" part for, yes, general discussion.
My point is, this is a forum for leftists mostly, and capitalists should stick to the capitalismvssocialism part.
What most cappies fail to see is that there are many dfferences among leftists. Apples and pears ar both fruit, but they are different -not to mention all the sorts of apples/pears.
So, discussions are still very possible and do exist in all the other threads.
And if people get banned for violating the rules, their problem. I'm not Malte.


(Edited by Frosty at 8:27 pm on Sep. 19, 2002)

[abstractmentality]

Quote: from Guest on 5:39 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
didn't samaniego used to be a leftist? didn't he used to have the rage against the machine avatar? it seems that he started a very unexpected crusade against the left in the last few days. any ideas?


you can live in america and be a political dissident and not be a communist.

[Stormin Norman]

Good for you Samaneigo. It appears that you have joined the side which has the ability to think. Your decision to ditch communism is a good one. I have been reading some of your questions and criticisms, and am impressed. Keep up the good work. There is no sense in blindly following a doctorine, like the rest of these bozos. It is only a matter of time before many more switch their stance on this fight between good and evil.

[Guest]

I agree with the original poster. You guys should allow more debate like the Phora does. It would make your forum more intresting and people shoudn't have to fear about being banned for their views.

[Felicia]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 5:05 pm on Sep. 19, 2002
Good for you Samaneigo. It appears that you have joined the side which has the ability to think. Your decision to ditch communism is a good one. I have been reading some of your questions and criticisms, and am impressed. Keep up the good work. There is no sense in blindly following a doctorine, like the rest of these bozos. It is only a matter of time before many more switch their stance on this fight between good and evil.


Ha, ha, ha, (can I laugh here?) Samaniego has never once claimed to be a communist or even a capitalist. So how is he 'ditching' the communist philosophy if he hasn't said he believed in the idea of communism in the first place?

[Brian]

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 11:04 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
Friends don't let friends become communists.


Damn straight!

[Guest]

Quote: from samaniego on 10:46 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
This area was designed for people to debate, instead with people being banned and popularity contest this site has become as sorry as any communist country. Is this your idea of what communism should be? Kids with far to much time on their hands, and with a desire to be different, thats all many of you are. Talk to your parents don't be a commie.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
1,stop showing us that your a 5 year old,show some respect for people by not calling them "kids".

2 You got a problem with debating or sumthing?
then give us sumthing to debate about other than your twisting of words & your utter stupidity.

3 Too much time on our hands?
You are contradicting yourself,you fucking spastic.

oh BTW SN,you have got "too much time on your hands" also,so he's not proping u up.

Fucking idiots,go back to your "rocket science" studies please.

[Guest]

Quote: from samaniego on 12:45 am on Sep. 18, 2002
Great research there guest!!! I never claimed to be a cappie. I guess any one who disagrees with the flaws of communism is a cappie to you. The rage avatar was used to symbolize the plight of the mexican people, thus the brown hands and maiz. I do like them but thats doesn't make me a commie.


If you not a cappie,or a commie then fucking explain what you are insted of *****ing at everybody who thinks your this & that.

[Lardlad95]

Let the man be what he will guest.

Before I became a democratic socialist I had no affiliation.

I went with what I felt was right at the time.

I was neither Republican nor Democrate, Communist nor capitalist.

Now that I am affiliated with Democratic Socialism I see it is better to have one single stance but there is nothing wrong with having no affiliation

[Frosty]

Quote: from Brian on 7:56 am on Sep. 20, 2002

Quote: from Dark Capitalist on 11:04 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
Friends don't let friends become communists.


Damn straight!


No, friends let friends think, mean, act and be what they are.

[Lardlad95]

Man fuck Dark capitalist and Brain

Friends don't let Friends build sweatshops in south east asia

[Guest]

Quote: from Lardlad95 on 4:48 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
Let the man be what he will guest.

Before I became a democratic socialist I had no affiliation.

I went with what I felt was right at the time.

I was neither Republican nor Democrate, Communist nor capitalist.

Now that I am affiliated with Democratic Socialism I see it is better to have one single stance but there is nothing wrong with having no affiliation


its me comrade,pastradamus.
Im a democratic socialist also,I can understand ur viewpoint.But I knew I was a lefty,not a righty,just not which faction of it.this guy is pulling every1's balls though.

[Lardlad95]

Ah ok got ya kid