Binalshibh

[American Kid]

I'd like to take this oppertunity to thank the Pakistani gov for the help in nabbing this piece of shit.

Thanks. Cheers. Now go about and do something about the disturbing, rampant miliatarism in your country, would you? I have friends who are Indian, I don't want them vaporized.

And I don't want smallpox, so....Get on it.

Ramzi Binalshibh was one of the main planners of 9/11 if you're not aware. He was Mohammed Atta's mosque-buddy and basically was supposed to be the 20th hijacker. M. Atta tried many times to get him in country on a student visa to attend flight school, but every time he was denied. In other words he's a criminal.

For those who don't believe this,

There were three children aboard flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon. They were on their way to recieve awards from National Geographic. One of them was with her mother and father. I wonder what they told her as the plane sped up, while losing altitiude? What-the-fuck-ever could they say to comfort her? At least she died with her parents and not alone. Around 300 people were killed in that attack.

2800 people died in the Trade Center towers. Just being at work. Many people in the upper floors lept or stumbled to their deaths. No one in the North Tower survived in the top 15 -20 floors. This was a choice they made instead of suffocating on black smoke. When you jump off the 101rst floor of a skyscraper, you don't just hit the ground. You fall for a long time. Many people did the sign of the cross beforehand. Some jumped in pairs, holding hands. The entire staff of the restaurant "Windows to the World" was wiped out.

Aboard 93, which crashed over Pennsylvania and was meant for either the Whitehouse or Capitol Hill (personally I've read about ten different versions of each opinion), 40 people died. That's not counting the terrorists. As it shouldn't. Not that they should be forgotten (anything but) but they do not belong in the company of people with SUCH BALLS.

We all know what happened about flight 93. It was heroic, but make no mistake, those people were scared-shitless. Most were crying. As the plane made it's final, awkward, herky-jerky decent toward impact, people were screaming out loud, literally, hysterically, for Jesus to help them.

I know, I know you hate my country. But acknowledge this guy is evil incarnate.

You can hate America. You can hate what it stands for. You can hate it's leaders and it's policies, but, as a moral, respectful human-being, you must also in turn bear as much proper resentment for such monsters who would commit crimes like those committed on September 11th, 2001.

A morning where my little sisters had to watch on live television people jumping out of windows.

That's why I thank the Pakistanis tonight.

Cheers again.

-AK

[No Food Allowed]

Quote: from American Kid on 7:56 pm on Sep. 13, 2002


You can hate America. You can hate what it stands for. You can hate it's leaders and it's policies, but, as a moral, respectful human-being, you must also in turn bear as much proper resentment for such monsters who would commit crimes like those committed on September 11th, 2001.

A morning where my little sisters had to watch on live television people jumping out of windows.


That sums everything up. Very nicely written.

[American Kid]

Thank you.

[No Food Allowed]

You're welcome AK. I think more people need to read this, so I'm just going to up the topic a bit.

[Field Marshal]

NBC, MSNBC AND NEWS SERVICES

Sept. 14 — Two people believed to be high-level al-Qaida members were arrested in raids this week and are being held and questioned in Pakistan, Pakistan said Saturday. Ramzi Binalshibh, the alleged coordinator of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, is among those arrested and is now in U.S. custody, U.S. officials told NBC News.

Keep in mind that, "two people alledged to be...." and that Ramzi is, "the alledged coordinator..."

What does hating America have to do with anything about the Pakistani government arresting a suspect of what happend one year ago?

Where have you seen or read that people on that flight were screaming for Jesus, where did you get that?

[Pinko]

Remember: Innocent until proven guilty.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Pinko on 8:53 pm on Sep. 14, 2002
Remember: Innocent until proven guilty.

there seems already to be insurmountable evidence of his guilt

[Vladimir]

''Thanks. Cheers. Now go about and do something about the disturbing, rampant miliatarism in your country, would you? I have friends who are Indian, I don't want them vaporized.

And I don't want smallpox, so....Get on it. ''

This coming from a country that has thousands of nuclear bombs, and please America do something about your militarism , i have a muslim friend i dont want him vaporized and do something about your nukes, i dont want radiation poisoning.....lol do you ever think of others

IrishGuevara

[ArgueEverything]

Why would the Left not revile Osama? We are not the ones who spurred on islamic fundamentalism in the Muslim world.

See, we on the Left are free to hate Osama and his ilk in a totally unbridled manner. You, supporters of America, must live with the guilt that you helped create this Frankenstein.

[American Kid]

Okay, all aboard.

First off, my friend, and old sparring partner, Field Marshall:

Quote from "Among the Heroes" (please, nevermind the corny title) "United Flight 93 and the Passengers and Crew who Fought Back":

"I just want to talk to somebody and just let someone know this is happening," Todd said.

"That's fine," Lisa said. "I'll talk as long as you want."

Then, in the background, she could hear an "awful commotion," men's voices raised and hollering and women screaming "Oh my God," and "God help us," and "Help us Jesus."

End quote.

That's on page 204 if you're referencing my ass. And if you don't believe it, if you think it's just "right-wing" propaganda or something, then Field Marshall you're sick and paranoid. Why would someone lie about that?

And why were you calling me to quote on that, btw? Why was that so "unbelievable" to you? What do you think you would have been doing the whole time? Sitting in the back with your arms crossed saying, "Hey, guys, we brought this on ourselves..."?

And that goes for you two Antieverything. Your's is a name, also, which would not deserve to belong in the company of people with such BALLS.

And IrishGuevara, your's is a complicated case. I've a seemingly BOUNDLESS reverence for all things Ireland. Some of my best friends in the world are there right now. I adore it and it's people (see you in Sligo, around Christmas if you're in the area, btw)

But you my friend need an ass-whoopin'.

I have muslim friend(s) also, brah. I don't want them vaporized anymore than my Indian friends. If they're not terrorists, and they're not harboring them, they have nothing to worry about.

Yes we have nuclear bombs, who the fuck doesn't? What's your point?

Do I ever not think about myself? Can you not pidgeon-hole me as some heartless American? Do I ever think of others? What the fuck was I supposed to do? Write a fuckin' condolence-card post for every fuckin' person who's ever been fuckin' killed?

Dude, you're killing me. What's the craic?

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 5:18 am on Sep. 15, 2002)

[American Kid]

Annnnd.....for vindication's sake:

http://cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/200...et.exclude.html (http://cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/2000/roof/change.pop/frameset.exclude.html)

[Tkinter1]

''Thanks. Cheers. Now go about and do something about the disturbing, rampant miliatarism in your country, would you? I have friends who are Indian, I don't want them vaporized.

And I don't want smallpox, so....Get on it. ''

"This coming from a country that has thousands of nuclear bombs, and please America do something about your militarism , i have a muslim friend i dont want him vaporized and do something about your nukes, i dont want radiation poisoning.....lol do you ever think of others"

what are you talking about? who is vaporising muslims, and the nukes haven't hurt anyone in years. Where is there radiation poisoning.... lol do you ever THINK?

[American Kid]

Do you have TWO user names....? Uh, I don't get it.

Anyway....
-AK

[Field Marshal]

American Kid, you seem to presume that I will find everything as "right wing" propoganda. The only thing I initially did not agree with was that it seemed to me when you said "screamed for jesus," it somehow meant that all those people were innocent christians. I for some reason found that hard to believe. I didn't even say that anyone was lying.

Also, the US government is the only in history to use nukes for reasons other than testing. Not only that, but the government has still not condmened it's use, and even wants to resume testing of more nukes. That's the point. We are the only psychos who have and might still want to use them.


Thanks for citing the information though.

[American Kid]

Your welcome.

And yikes, dude, no! No way was I inferring that all the people were Christians or something! Catholic myself, but anyhow. No, I was just trying to paint a picture of the hell that was going on in that plane.

And as far as the nukes, that's out of my countrol. I put in a few calls to Dubya, but they just keep saying he'll "get back to me". Personally, I don't think he gets the messages at all.

-AK

[Field Marshal]

"I don't think he gets the messages at all."

And there is the answer you've been looking for.

[American Kid]

:) Why you................

I actually used to have a red-phone but they disconnected it.

No, I mean it. I don't know what to do about the nukes, and it's out of my control. I'm just a writer.

-AK

[Field Marshal]

well then do what this country allows you to do. Pubblish an ariticle condemning nukes, go farther and condemn war itself, go even farther and say that to even speak of war should be considered as treason.

Then, see if "they" will let you publish it.

[American Kid]

I'm sure they would, if it was good. Last I heard, that was the main prequesite to getting published in the first place. I'm one-hundred percent positive on this.

It's just not my forte. It's beyond my interest.

-AK

[American Kid]

And as for making speaking of ANYTHING to stand as treason, that goes against everything I DO stand for.

That's very much in my interest. Words, thoughts, should NEVER be banned, outlawed, anything.

-AK

[Field Marshal]

Anything? I only said war is to stand as treason.

And about the newspapers or where ever you write, the more independent the better. Corporate media usually throws away all unsolicited material.

[Anonymous]

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/upload/evil.jpg

Speak no evil, See no evil, Hear no evil.

(Edited by Dark Capitalist at 11:58 am on Sep. 15, 2002)