Superiority complex? - Basketball

[canikickit]

The Americans were defeated in the World Basketball Championships by Argentina and Yugoslavia.

I think this demonstrates some level of complacency, because I still think these are the best players in the world.

This shows the price of over-confidence. Perhaps it is a sign of things to come?
The world's strongest military.....?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Those guys are not in the game. They are not even trying, they just don't care enough. Besides, they are like the second string of All-Stars. They are not even our best. Yugoslavia (which has NBA players Vlade Divac and Peja Stojakovich of my team, the great Sacramento Kings)and Argentina wanted nothin more than to beat the USA, so they gave all of their heart and effort to do it.

Belive me, if the US team wanted to win, they would have. They just demonstrated utter lack of sportsmanship and a selfish, immature, lazy attitude that embarassed Americans.

Wait until the olympics.

And to compare NBA basketball scrubs with US military preparedness and ability is flawed in too many ways to list.


But you are correct, they were complacent and an embarassment.

[Pinko]

Does this mean the winners of the NBA will stop ccalling themselves World Champions? What about Superbowl winners?

[canikickit]

Okay I'm not serious about the military thing. That's a joke.

Paul Pierce was in the Eastern Conference finals.
Andre Miller is regarded as one of the best point gaurd in the league.

Ray Allen, Jason Kidd and Reggie Miller were injured, I know it wasn't the best team out there, but the idea that these are the "scrubs" is crazy.

Of course they wanted to win. Of course I am correct.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Pinko on 11:31 pm on Sep. 7, 2002
Does this mean the winners of the NBA will stop ccalling themselves World Champions? What about Superbowl winners?


NBA winners are world champions because everyone knows that the best in the world play there.

No other league on earth is even close to as competitive. Same with football.

[canikickit]

fuck that

[Chasovoy]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 11:23 pm on Sep. 7, 2002
Belive me, if the US team wanted to win, they would have. They just demonstrated utter lack of sportsmanship and a selfish, immature, lazy attitude that embarassed Americans.

Wait until the olympics.

[Chasovoy]

So whenever USA loses it loses intentionally?

[Borincano]

Who are the finalists in the Wrodl Baketball Championships?

[canikickit]

Peja Stojakovic scored 26 points as Yugoslavia successfully defended its title with an 84-77 victory over Argentina in the World Basketball Championship (http://www.nba.com/wbc/index.html)gold-medal game on Sunday.

[mujer revolucionaria]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 5:59 pm on Sep. 8, 2002

NBA winners are world champions because everyone knows that the best in the world play there.

No other league on earth is even close to as competitive. Same with football.


Even if the other leagues "arent as competitive" dont you think if you are going to have a "World Championship" you should include them?? As for football (american football that is), no one else in the world gives a pap. Whatta joke that sport is.

As for REAL football....the reason Americans dont like it, is because they will never be the best at it. And it is by far the worlds grandest and most popular sport. Not ONE American sport has even the domestic following that real football has in other countries. Sure you have baseball fans, hockey fans etc who are very into the sport.....but no sport in the US has the unified passion and following that real football brings in 99% of the world.

[El Chancho]

BAsketball sucks anyway, Rugby is where it's at.

[John Difool]

Quote: from mujer revolucionaria on 7:08 am on Sep. 11, 2002.
As for football (american football that is), no one else in the world gives a pap. Whatta joke that sport is.



DAmn, I wanted to post that myself :D
But I disagree with you and agree with El CHanco
The grandest sport is Rugby :)
American football is an insult both toward Football's name and Rugby's ovoid ball :D

(Edited by John Difool at 3:49 pm on Sep. 11, 2002)

[canikickit]

Well. It's interesting to learn your opinions, but that is all they are.

I believe Japan is acknowledged as being superior to America at baseball.

(Edited by canikickit at 7:09 pm on Sep. 11, 2002)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from canikickit on 7:08 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
Well. It's interesting to learn your opinions, but that is all they are.


I believe Japan is acknowledged as being superior to America at baseball.

(Edited by canikickit at 7:09 pm on Sep. 11, 2002)


How do you figure? Acknowledged by who?

You're joking, right?

Good japaneze players play in the USA, not the other way around. Japan is probably the world's second best, but America still plays much, much better baseball than japan. I don't think you know what you are talking about here.

Japan itself concedes that thewy are not as good as the US in baseball.

As for football, you idiot sheep are probably just to ignorant to understand what it is about or the intricacies of the game. It is much more complex than soccer, and harder hitting than rugby.

[Capitalist Imperial]

As for basketball, the reson that the NBA is the world championship is that even if their was a tournament for other whole nations to compete in, no one would bother going, as no one can beat American basketbal teams in a serious match.

The olympics are a perfect example.

You can't even win $$$ in las vegas betting on the US basketball team in the olympics.

The world championships is not a good example. They just didn't care, as they were not being paid and no one really watches the world championship tourney like they would the olympics.

[Red Revolution]

CI have you read my post on "I'm worried about Iraq"
Do

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Red Revolution on 8:56 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
CI have you read my post on "I'm worried about Iraq"
Do


OK, give me a little time, and read my response to you.

[canikickit]

I did hear that about the Japanese being better.....like Lionel Hutz said, "hearsay and conjecture are kinds of evidence, aren't they".

Okay fair enough, I don't really care.
But I think it is very insulting to other countries that the US chooses to dismiss them. I have said elsewhere that I have no doubt the Lakers were the best team in the world the last three seasons, but I think it shows arrogance. Arrogance is not a good quality.

They are thinking about bringing some franchises into the NBA from Europe. I think they did care about the matches. You don't reach that level of talent without a large measure of competitiveness. But let's not get into that, we have differing opinions on that, I think.

[Moskitto]

I know how to solve American football. The winner of the Superbowl in the US plays the winner of the European League. Yes, there is a European League for American Football, players such as that guy who captained Denver Bronchos i think in the superbowl a few years back played for teams like Barcalona in their later years like top European soccer players (eg. Lothar Mathais) go to play in the US or Japan in their later years. Then the winner of USA vs Europe could really be called the world champion in a similar way that the winners of the European Champions League used to play the South American Champions to decide who was the best soccer club in the world.

[John Difool]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 8:18 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
Good japaneze players play in the USA, not the other way around. Japan is probably the world's second best

out of 2 ...
wow ...



It is [...]harder hitting than rugby.




lol

are you aware that you guys have freaking *armors* ?
do you even want to compare the physicall look of a rugbyman and an american football player stripped of his protections ?
I think not ...

[Capitalist Imperial]

WHAT? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

NFL players are in so much better than rugby players! They train more often, are bigger, stronger, and faster!

Anyone can see that!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Moskitto on 10:54 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
I know how to solve American football. The winner of the Superbowl in the US plays the winner of the European League. Yes, there is a European League for American Football, players such as that guy who captained Denver Bronchos i think in the superbowl a few years back played for teams like Barcalona in their later years like top European soccer players (eg. Lothar Mathais) go to play in the US or Japan in their later years. Then the winner of USA vs Europe could really be called the world champion in a similar way that the winners of the European Champions League used to play the South American Champions to decide who was the best soccer club in the world.



European NFL teams are composed of scrubs who aren't good enough for the real NFL, and for rookies that are sharpening their skills.

They wouldn't bother to play the superbowl champs because the best team in NFL Europe would lose to the worst NFL team in the USA

I've watched NFL europe, it is sorry, weak football

(Edited by Capitalist Imperial at 1:55 am on Sep. 13, 2002)

[John Difool]

Anyone can see that!


xcept non blind people ?
bah ...
American football isn't that bad.. it is just vastly inferior to Rugby entertainment wise ...
And I wonder how AMerican football players would fare vs Rugby players, especially during the 3rd Half time
I mean, Ruby players *aren't* breed on piss weak budwieser ;)

[John Difool]

I've watched NFL europe, it is sorry, weak football



it better be, since it *isn't* football ...

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from John Difool on 4:01 pm on Sep. 13, 2002

Anyone can see that!


xcept non blind people ?
bah ...
American football isn't that bad.. it is just vastly inferior to Rugby entertainment wise ...
And I wonder how AMerican football players would fare vs Rugby players, especially during the 3rd Half time
I mean, Ruby players *aren't* breed on piss weak budwieser ;)


Hey, American beer is improving, we've made alot of strides in the last 7-10 years.

I'd like to see rugby players play american football without pads. Most of them would have broken ribs and clavicles by the end of the 1st half.

One can't play american football without armor. The speeds are too fast and the collisions are too great. Rugby is more like a giant wrestling match, not really big blocks and tackles, or high speed collisions.

[Anonymous]

The good thing about American Football is that anyone can play it, a lanky guy or a big fat guy, its a great game of equality

[John Difool]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 5:22 pm on Sep. 13, 2002
I'd like to see rugby players play american football without pads. Most of them would have broken ribs and clavicles by the end of the 1st half.




I'd like to see American footbal players play rugby without pads. Most of them would have broken ribs and clavicles by the end of the 1st half ;) ;) j/k

[Capitalist Imperial]

OK, now back to the important stuff, BEER!!!

Have you had any good american craft beer in the last 5 years? We have some very good quality beer now, pints that are on par with english or german brews.

Although I understand that in europe many people drink their beer at room temperature, while we Americans like it ice cold (to match the blood in our veins), LOL

[Anonymous]

English beer is pish.


I prefer Belgian, Spanish or Dutch. God not Amstal.

[John Difool]

Spanish beers ? I have yet to try out those... any suggestions ?
But belgium reigns supreme over the lands of beer :)

[Anonymous]

Yeh, ive been experimenting with San Miguel for about a month. Its just started to produce a load of adverts and is certainly one to watch for the future.



Wow... new sport.....beer watching

[Anonymous]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 1:53 am on Sep. 13, 2002

Quote: from Moskitto on 10:54 pm on Sep. 11, 2002
I know how to solve American football. The winner of the Superbowl in the US plays the winner of the European League. Yes, there is a European League for American Football, players such as that guy who captained Denver Bronchos i think in the superbowl a few years back played for teams like Barcalona in their later years like top European soccer players (eg. Lothar Mathais) go to play in the US or Japan in their later years. Then the winner of USA vs Europe could really be called the world champion in a similar way that the winners of the European Champions League used to play the South American Champions to decide who was the best soccer club in the world.



European NFL teams are composed of scrubs who aren't good enough for the real NFL, and for rookies that are sharpening their skills.

They wouldn't bother to play the superbowl champs because the best team in NFL Europe would lose to the worst NFL team in the USA

I've watched NFL europe, it is sorry, weak football

(Edited by Capitalist Imperial at 1:55 am on Sep. 13, 2002)



Ive got to agree with CI for a change, im sorry.

The majority of NFL Europe is made up of rejects from the American league, Kurt Warner (formerly of the Amsterdam Admirals was an exception because he was a late developer).

But American Footballers will never have the stamina of Rugby players, its all stop start and using different teams when attacking and defending, rugby players generally play the entire game in two halves

[Capitalist Imperial]

Watch out for emerging American brews

[Anonymous]

The Average rugby player would beat the Average American Footbawl player 9/10 times

[John Difool]

In a drinking contest?
no doubts about that ;)

[John Difool]

Quote: from Funky Monk on 8:48 pm on Sep. 14, 2002
rugby players generally play the entire game in two halves




about 110 min in the case of last year french finals ;)
It's the beer, I say ! :)

[vox]

NFL players=steroid fiends (sorry, no one weighs 280 and runs a 9.1 naturally, nope).

Rugby players=soccer hooligans reigned in to "acceptable" behavior.

Tougher? Rugby players. The average NFL player will puke out his guts if made to run longer than 15 seconds.

There would be no contest. The NFL guys would knock the rugby players down and then wait for the whistle that doesn't come. Meanwhile, the rugby players will get up and dance a jig, spit ale, and generally humiliate NFL players until they cry "uncle." That's just the way it is.

Tough bastards, and probably deranged an unfit for human society, those rugby players. I wouldn't trust them.

vox

[Guest]

Quote: from vox on 1:52 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
Tough bastards, and probably deranged an unfit for human society, those rugby players. I wouldn't trust them.

*

DAmn ...
most of my friends are rugby players ...
does that mean I'm deranged too ? :D

[Capitalist Imperial]

You people have no idea what you are talking about

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from vox on 1:52 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
NFL players=steroid fiends (sorry, no one weighs 280 and runs a 9.1 naturally, nope).

Rugby players=soccer hooligans reigned in to "acceptable" behavior.

Tougher? Rugby players. The average NFL player will puke out his guts if made to run longer than 15 seconds.

There would be no contest. The NFL guys would knock the rugby players down and then wait for the whistle that doesn't come. Meanwhile, the rugby players will get up and dance a jig, spit ale, and generally humiliate NFL players until they cry "uncle." That's just the way it is.

Tough bastards, and probably deranged an unfit for human society, those rugby players. I wouldn't trust them.

vox


"NFL players=steroid fiends (sorry, no one weighs 280 and runs a 9.1 naturally, nope)."

I am glad to know that you have made that determination for us. In fact,it is possible to run a 9.1 @ 280pounds. It is just that rugby plauyers obviously can't, and US football players can.

"Rugby players=soccer hooligans reigned in to "acceptable" behavior."

Whatever, they are not that tough.

"Tougher? Rugby players. The average NFL player will puke out his guts if made to run longer than 15 seconds."

This is just untrue. NFL player camps and trainers make for conditioning and training far beyond what rugby players endure. Also, US football is played at higher speeds and harder collisions than rugby. Even with pads, the hits in football take a much greater toll on one's body than the quasi-wresting matches that are rugby games.

"There would be no contest. The NFL guys would knock the rugby players down and then wait for the whistle that doesn't come. Meanwhile, the rugby players will get up and dance a jig, spit ale, and generally humiliate NFL players until they cry "uncle." That's just the way it is."

No, Vox, that is not the way it is. What you are writing is highly opinionated, without true regard for the physics or dynamics of each respective game.

"Tough bastards, and probably deranged an unfit for human society"

I agree there

, "those rugby players. I wouldn't trust them"

agreed there, too


Vox, who usually can at least feign an air of objectivity, is obviously allowing his vehement anti-americanism to blind him to reality.

Perhaps a review of Einstein's theory of relativity could illustrate for vox and the rest of you why americn football is more demanding and harder hitting.

[canikickit]

It is just that rugby plauyers obviously can't, and US football players can.

You ever hear of Jonah Lomu? He's a fast runner.

This is a retarded thread. Which is better Rugby or American Football? That's the same as comparing cricket and baseball. They're two different sports, grow up you fucking muppets, stop being so fucking petty.

(Edited by canikickit at 7:37 pm on Sep. 16, 2002)

[vox]

Damn, CI, I thought I was supposed to be the humorless one. You really take the cake.

And of course, it's possible to run a 9.1 at 280. With steroids. Perhaps you should have listened to Lyle Alzado.

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from vox on 7:50 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
Damn, CI, I thought I was supposed to be the humorless one. You really take the cake.

And of course, it's possible to run a 9.1 at 280. With steroids. Perhaps you should have listened to Lyle Alzado.

vox

Vox, speaking of which, I admit that I am taken aback by you lacing your arguements with even a smidgeon of humor.

Nevertheless, you wear it well.

Anyway, I think we both can concede that just because Mr. Alzado, and ostensibly many NFL players (or pro athletes in general) have used steroids, that doesn't mean that steroid use is a requirement for acheiving a 9.1 @ 280.

Also, for your consideration, are pro rugby players beyond reproach with regard to allegations of steroid use? Or do you contend that their inferior statistical performance is a result of going au natural exclusively?

[vox]

CI, do you not understand that this is a joke thread? Are you really that fucking stupid? I think you just might be.

Everyone knows that steroid use is so common as to be a requirement for the NFL. Hey, why don't they start drug-testing for steroids? Because the profits would fall off, that's why.

As for tough, there was just a thread in Chit Chat about Oscar de la Hoya. He's tough and has a ton of heart. And, I think, could whip the crap out of anyone in the NFL. As anyone who watches boxing knows, the big man doesn't always win. Not by a longshot.

Looking at rugby players, one wouldn't assume that they are on steroids. Talk to me when they all start bulking up to 300 pounds. Of course, the injuries would then be so severe, as they now often are in the NFL (which has become so boring I don't understand how anyone can watch it), that many players wouldn't actually be able to play, just like in the NFL.

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

[quote]Quote: from vox on 8:24 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
"CI, do you not understand that this is a joke thread? Are you really that fucking stupid? I think you just might be."

No, Vox, I didn't realize that. Thanks for enlightening me.


"As for tough, there was just a thread in Chit Chat about Oscar de la Hoya. He's tough and has a ton of heart. And, I think, could whip the crap out of anyone in the NFL. As anyone who watches boxing knows, the big man doesn't always win."

LOL, Actually, Vox, they have weight classes in boxing for just that reason, as the bigger guy usually will win in pro boxing. Knock-Knock, anyone home?

BTW, boxing and actual fighting are 2 entirely different and distinct things. If you ever witness a no-holds barred fight between 2 humans, it usually consists of more grappling and wrestling than toe to toe punching.

"Looking at rugby players, one wouldn't assume that they are on steroids. Talk to me when they all start bulking up to 300 pounds."

The dynamics of rugby do not lend themselves to rugby necessitating bulking up like that, so you are providing a false scenario.

"Of course, the injuries would then be so severe, as they now often are in the NFL (which has become so boring I don't understand how anyone can watch it), that many players wouldn't actually be able to play, just like in the NFL."

The nature of football and its increasing intensity causes extensive injuries, not rampant steroid use.

[vox]

"LOL, Actually, Vox, they have weight classes in boxing for just that reason, as the bigger guy usually will win in pro boxing. Knock-Knock, anyone home?"

Yes, in boxing. The point I was making, which you missed (of course) is that "tough" is relative and that de la Hoya could, I think whip any huge defensive lineman in a boxing match. He could be pushed around (which, if you follow the fights, isn't always a bad thing, because you can then get inside pretty easily, tossing the opponent is always a risky manuever and generally not done unless one is in control of the bout or desperate), but his skills outclass any lineman's skills in the ring.

"The nature of football and its increasing intensity causes extensive injuries, not rampant steroid use."

Hee! What do you think is causing "its increasing intensity?" Vitamins? HEE! You're funny, CI.

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

[quote]Quote: from vox on 8:49 pm on Sep. 16, 2002
"LOL, Actually, Vox, they have weight classes in boxing for just that reason, as the bigger guy usually will win in pro boxing. Knock-Knock, anyone home?"

"Yes, in boxing. The point I was making, which you missed (of course) is that "tough" is relative and that de la Hoya could, I think whip any huge defensive lineman in a boxing match. He could be pushed around (which, if you follow the fights, isn't always a bad thing, because you can then get inside pretty easily, tossing the opponent is always a risky manuever and generally not done unless one is in control of the bout or desperate), but his skills outclass any lineman's skills in the ring."

Well, of course. However, I did not miss your point, I just think that you drew a false comparison. De La Hoya would of course outclass a defensive lineman in boxing, as that is his (De La Hoya's) discipline. However, the same can be said in a reverse scenario, i.e. de la hoya would probably last about 3 plays max in a gridiron game. You are equating expertise within a discipline to relative toughness, which is, I believe, a false correlation.

"The nature of football and its increasing intensity causes extensive injuries, not rampant steroid use."

"Hee! What do you think is causing "its increasing intensity?" Vitamins? HEE! You're funny, CI."

No, the fact that each successive generation of NFL players are bigger, stronger, and faster than the last, This leads to higher speed/size/impact coefficients, and greater chance for injury.

You are funny too, Vox.

[Anonymous]

Still think Rugby is more draining man, offense to defence in no time at all, and dont talk to me about turn-overs: win the ball, run about a bit, fall over, run off the pitch and get your butt slapped by your fellow players. Too stop/start.

[Capitalist Imperial]

I agree that rugby may be a little more aerobically challenging, but so is ballet dancing.

We are talking about toughness, and NFL games contain more hits, faster,harder hits, and more stress and impact on the body (even with pads) than rugby.

[John Difool]

>You ever hear of Jonah Lomu? He's a fast runner.

yeah ...
and that's about all he can do on the field :D

[John Difool]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 11:53 pm on Sep. 16, 2002

We are talking about toughness, and NFL games contain more hits, faster,harder hits, and more stress and impact on the body (even with pads) than rugby.


you *really* don't have the slightest idea of what happens within a scrum, do you ? :)

[Anonymous]

So now your saying that NFL players are tougher than Ballet dancers??!!!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from John Difool on 12:19 pm on Sep. 17, 2002

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 11:53 pm on Sep. 16, 2002

We are talking about toughness, and NFL games contain more hits, faster,harder hits, and more stress and impact on the body (even with pads) than rugby.


you *really* don't have the slightest idea of what happens within a scrum, do you ? :)


Yes, I do.

its like a giant wrestling match, pushing & pulling, and grappling, not a high-impact collision, it takes a lot of muscling, but does not impact the body like a football hit

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Funky Monk on 5:01 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
So now your saying that NFL players are tougher than Ballet dancers??!!!


well, of course they are, but you missed the point of what i was saying

my point was that aerobic demand is different than the toughness I was refering too

[Anonymous]

A ballet dancer could kick a footbawl player's arse any day!

[John Difool]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 6:39 pm on Sep. 17, 2002
[quote]Quote: from John Difool on 12:19 pm on Sep. 17, 2002

its like a giant wrestling match, pushing & pulling, and grappling, not a high-impact collision, it takes a lot of muscling, but does not impact the body like a football hit


*american* football, please :D

PLus, guys are punching each other within a scrum ...
and grappling ./. .when the two guys are running at about 20kph each, and the guy grapples at the throat (ooops, that's a foul , except when it's done on Umada ;) ) ...

[Capitalist Imperial]

LOL, yeah, I bet, but if you bring fouls into the equation, then the NFL gets even tougher, with "clothes-lines", face-masks, chop-blocks, etc

[Pinko]

[Capitalist Imperial]
its like a giant wrestling match, pushing & pulling, and grappling, not a high-impact collision, it takes a lot of muscling, but does not impact the body like a football hit

No, you don't have any idea what it like in a scrum.

I suggest that unless the participants of this arguement have actually played both Rugby and American Football, then the arguement should stop. Just from watching a game it is impossible to judge the stresses and strains put upon the body. Everyone here seems to be talking from a flawed standpoint.

[Capitalist Imperial]

You have a point pinko, though I believe through observation one could conceptualize the feeling if one has engaged in similar activity (i.e. I have not playes rugby, but have wrestled, and I notice many similarites in the grappling nature of a scrum and collegiate wrestling).

[John Difool]

Quote: from Pinko on 6:37 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
I suggest that unless the participants of this arguement have actually played both Rugby and American Football, then the arguement should stop. Just from watching a game it is impossible to judge the stresses and strains put upon the body. Everyone here seems to be talking from a flawed standpoint.


that's the whole point, and where the whole fun come from ;)

[Moskitto]

The only sports you can compare are those which are based on similar conditions, eg. Canoeing vs Rowing (Canoeing easily wins, Rowers have to sit down and need to row on both sides to go in a straight line, we have more skill because we kneel, paddle only on one side and go in a straight line), Running Vs Cycling, Long Jump Vs Triple Jump. Sure you could compare Rugby and American Football, but the thing is they're 2 different games, Rugby players tend to be slightly smaller (except the French where their scrum has players bigger than most American Football players but have lots of nippy people as well who run fast and turn quickly) but taller, But you need to be heavier to play American Football on the basis that if you're bigger other people who are bigger than you won't knock you over. The only Rugby player who could get into American Football would probably be Jonah Lomu because he has the ability to break out of peoples grip which no one else seems to have. C1 paddlers who's been put on Ultimate weights for a bit could do it because we've got the ultimate sense of balance and running into 120kg of solid muscle of someone who can throw you with one hand hurts.

[trash kitty]

die george bush die!

[trash kitty]

sport is for people who havent discovered beer and day time televisio.

[John Difool]

Quote: from Moskitto on 11:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
Rugby players tend to be slightly smaller (except the French where their scrum has players bigger than most American Football players but have lots of nippy people as well who run fast and turn quickly) but taller,

wait ..
smaller but taller ?

And the French Pack is usually lighter than its southern hemisphere equivalent..

plus rowing is cool ... As long as you are the coxwain of a feminine team :D
I love to shout on girls :D





(Edited by John Difool at 11:23 am on Sep. 20, 2002)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from John Difool on 11:20 am on Sep. 20, 2002

Quote: from Moskitto on 11:01 pm on Sep. 18, 2002
Rugby players tend to be slightly smaller (except the French where their scrum has players bigger than most American Football players but have lots of nippy people as well who run fast and turn quickly) but taller,

wait ..
smaller but taller ?

And the French Pack is usually lighter than its southern hemisphere equivalent..

plus rowing is cool ... As long as you are the coxwain of a feminine team :D
I love to shout on girls :D





(Edited by John Difool at 11:23 am on Sep. 20, 2002)


rowing rules over canoeing!

MUCH FASTER, SLEEKER, MORE EXCITING


and there is no way that french rugby players are bigger than american football players, unless thaey are bigger than 6'3, 350 lbs on average

[Moskitto]

http://www.fightcapitalism.net/users/moskitto/canoeing/images/rowing.jpg

http://www.fightcapitalism.net/users/moskitto/canoeing/images/c1.jpg

Which looks more harder Kneeling or Sitting?

Width of a canoe: 30cm
Width of rowing boat: 39cm
Canoe Stroke Rate: 65-80
Rowing Stroke Rate: 40-50
Canoe steering: With Paddle without slowing the boat
Rowing steering: With rudder
Canoe Stroke side: One side only (and in a straight line)
Rowing stroke sides: Both sides
Competative Canoe Distances: 200m - 128 miles
Rowing Competative Distances: 2000m
Canoe Top Speed (singles): 5.3 m/s
Rowing Top Speed (Singles): 4.9 m/s
Canoe Top Speed (Doubles): 5.4 m/s
Rowing Top Speed (Doubles): 5.7 m/s
Canoe Top Speed (Fours): 6.25 m/s
Rowing Top Speed (Fours): 5.9 m/s

Rowing Sleeker? Faster? More skillful? I don't think so.

Rowing is only thought of as more exiciting because it has shitloads of money pumped into it so they show it on TV even though in most countries canoeists win shitloads more medals. And a C4 is a hell of a lot better to watch than a 4x.

(Edited by Moskitto at 5:33 pm on Sep. 20, 2002)

[Iyana]

Hell yea sacramento kings rule.... but I got to say american team sucks ! and they lost cause they sucked ! Thats the only REAL reason ! Do u guys remember The soccer game between Iran and the US up in Oakland in 98 ? Wow ! that was the most exciting game Ive ever watched, especially since I am persian, I was feeling the game !

[Moskitto]

I remember that, that was funny because the Iranians were going nuts in their celebrations.

I believe it was a World Cup match in France though.

[Iyana]

yea we were going nuts... it was in Oakland colliseum year of 98 it couldnt have been France, I was in the arena watching the game.

[John Difool]

Unless the oakland coliseum was the name of the stade Gerland of Lyon in 1998 you are mistaken ...

[John Difool]

wow.. double post sorry :)

(Edited by John Difool at 7:25 pm on Sep. 20, 2002)

[Moskitto]

It might have been annother match like a friendly or something. That's the only explaination I can think of.

[John Difool]

could be .. if it is, it can't have the scope of that 2-1 though ;D

[Anonymous]

Quote: from Iyana on 6:09 pm on Sep. 20, 2002
Hell yea sacramento kings rule.... but I got to say american team sucks ! and they lost cause they sucked ! Thats the only REAL reason ! Do u guys remember The soccer game between Iran and the US up in Oakland in 98 ? Wow ! that was the most exciting game Ive ever watched, especially since I am persian, I was feeling the game !



I saw this quote by a good comic.....

'im half Iranian so i hate America but my other half's British so i really hate America!'

Tres Amusons

[Iyana]

no one said it was the world cup besides Moskitto... so dont assume anything. And yes it was a 'friendly' game. And me being Iranian has nothing to do with The US sucking big times !