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Antinomia
22nd May 2008, 12:46
From media reports:
"According to evidence around 15 persons that came to the area on motorbikes, left their bikes in a close distance and approached the police station through a small park, initially hurled molotov cocktails against the guard who fired his gun in the air three times to panic them, though they continued throwing gas canisters and molotov cocktails against the parked police cars, destroying 5 patrol cars and two undercover police cars parked nearby..." An unknown man claim responsibility for a new organization called "Floga" (Flame). State security agency and antiterrorist unit have started investigations.



The following claim for "Symmories Syneidisis" (Gangs of Conscience) though, was sent together with other newspaper and tv-station mail accounts. Here is a translation.

Early in the morning of May 16, without any special occasion we attacked against the Police Station of Aigaleo (Athens). There is though a precise reason we did it and we will do it again. And this is the existance of police itself. We won't wait for any authority abuses to come to light, or when will the cops exceed their services discharging their guns, or whenever they torture in their police stations, trafficking drugs, raping prostitutes etc. We break the silence and apathy of this society, and assault. Since the role of the police is also presice.
It is the inner armed mercenaries of the democratic despotism that safeguards the order and security of the regime. Defender of the bosses' interests, supervisor of loyalism, guard of the orderly circulating money and commodities.
This is what makes the police an all-time charming target. So let the cops know, from the "tough" riot policemen to the seriff styled motorbike cops, to every last patrol policeman that what they should respectively expect is no less than a ly weighted stone on their heads.
We don't discriminate people, since they discriminate theirselves on their own, when they selected to wear this uniform. The well equiped ambushes and attacks against them are the price of this choice of theirs.
We won't go on on self-evident matters. Whoever doesn't get that cops are the protectors of this system of exploitation and repression is either an imbecile or a collegue of them.
We live in a uniformed reality that carries a gun and controls the modern sterile everyday life that dries out in a constant parade of obeying commands and orders, under the incidental music of silence and passivity.
Willing to shock this mournful normality, we selected to organize the attack against a police station that as a symbol constitutes a guarantee of this condition. We selected to strike the multi-dynamic police station of Aigaleo for a couple reasons more: Firstly, we wanted to come with the maximum material damage. We already knew that this police station had enough vehicles parked for us to set on fire and this was a fine challenge and a motivation for our action. Secondly, at Aigaleo area and a few months ago, a "residents committee" appeared, realising a march demanding further policing in the area. This attack against the police station of Aigaleo is our contribution in this dialogue that we intend to open with this particular piece of social snitching.
Finally, as far as the time of the action is concerned, we wanted to bring back another importand date, as a homage to the urban guerrilla Christos Tsoutsouvis who in May 15, 1985 was murdered in an armed clash with policemen in Gizi, but first managed to execute three of them. This strike is dedicated to all those comrades that in these times of silence and passivity, they wilfully insist to ablaze with light the quiet nights of the metropolis with their arson fires.

Gangs of Conscience

P.S. We left the police station according to our plan, in the moment we had decided, and not because of the cops' gun fires, as the police's circles claim.

BIG BROTHER
22nd May 2008, 15:45
pretty cool. But in reality do you guys think this will lead to anywhere? That's what I ask. Also what's the type of reputation that the police have in Athens?

F9
22nd May 2008, 16:15
pretty cool. But in reality do you guys think this will lead to anywhere? That's what I ask. Also what's the type of reputation that the police have in Athens?

the WORSE!Allies with the neo-nazis and friends.In a strike before some time fascists were attacking antifas with the cops.They were running through cops they hit and they hide behind there friends(cops)

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RaiseYourVoice
22nd May 2008, 16:16
pretty cool. But in reality do you guys think this will lead to anywhere? That's what I ask. Also what's the type of reputation that the police have in Athens?
Athens police is i guess one of the most reactionary i know of. They dont passively protect Nazis but actually actively help them fight antifas. Abuse and torture of kids they injail etc. etc. I might find some videos that prove both of the above but needs some days

BIG BROTHER
22nd May 2008, 16:27
Athens police is i guess one of the most reactionary i know of. They dont passively protect Nazis but actually actively help them fight antifas. Abuse and torture of kids they injail etc. etc. I might find some videos that prove both of the above but needs some days

damm, from what I hear from you guys I'm impressed. They ARE indeed reactionary, and if they protect NAZIs they have to be just as brutal. Well this changes my perspective about this whole article.

ManyAntsDefeatSpiders
22nd May 2008, 16:34
Greek police are very corrupt, and have been responsible for the murders of immigrants and dissidents.

Do a youtube search of Greek police...plenty of documented videos of police brutality.

F9
22nd May 2008, 16:36
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3g1VdrYBECs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6NfWoKilXyQ&feature=related

they are from the same thing,when fascists and nazis were together!

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=aRtkBQUVOMI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KjhS23vG7TA&feature=related

and this two is how fucking cops act against por,homeless people,and against people from other countries!


those things make me SICK!

Fuserg9:star:

Ultra-Violence
22nd May 2008, 16:52
Anarchist and Revolutionarys From Greece never cese to amaze me with their action and willingness to take on the state head on i wish we had some contact with them so we could network with them and link our selfs to them and vice a versa the struggle is world wide and we all are connected especialy with technology now(internet,cellphones) etc..

Peacekeeper
22nd May 2008, 18:27
Props to my Greek brothers.

nvm
24th May 2008, 00:54
Anarchist and Revolutionarys From Greece never cese to amaze me with their action and willingness to take on the state head on i wish we had some contact with them so we could network with them and link our selfs to them and vice a versa the struggle is world wide and we all are connected especialy with technology now(internet,cellphones) etc..



That's why Im trying to get Greeks in this forum by creating a Greek subforum.
In order to discuss about actions and theory.
I think that the Greek left movement is one of the most advanced. Both anarchist and communist , if we exclude some stalinists for the Communist Youth which resemble national Bolsheviks (they re not as bad though)

BIG BROTHER
24th May 2008, 01:53
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3g1VdrYBECs
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6NfWoKilXyQ&feature=related

they are from the same thing,when fascists and nazis were together!

http://youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=aRtkBQUVOMI
http://youtube.com/watch?v=KjhS23vG7TA&feature=related

and this two is how fucking cops act against por,homeless people,and against people from other countries!


those things make me SICK!

Fuserg9:star:

Dammit! Those pigs are so fucken reactionary! pss siding with fucken nazis has no excuse. Go burn those pigs Floga!!!

Nietzsche's Ghost
24th May 2008, 02:09
Fuck. I hate the fascist bastard pigs! Cheers to our brave comrades in Greece. So in Greece how does the general population react to this? Or do they all support the police?

Nietzsche's Ghost
24th May 2008, 02:22
Go to youtube and put in...antifasist strike greek fascists everywhere.(Id post the link but I dont have enough posts). It is a nice video of the good our comrades are doing in Greece.

BIG BROTHER
24th May 2008, 02:46
Fuck. I hate the fascist bastard pigs! Cheers to our brave comrades in Greece. So in Greece how does the general population react to this? Or do they all support the police?

yea i wonder that too? do they do what the usuall of seing them as terrorits, or to they support them.

bcbm
24th May 2008, 03:47
I think that the Greek left movement is one of the most advanced. Both anarchist and communist

Not really. While they are organized and numerous enough to be able to attack the police like this and perform some spectacular actions during demos, the movement itself is fairly contained without a real connection to a larger class struggle. Outside of, loosely, the squatting and university networks, there is not a whole lot of activity. Some comrades are working to do something about this by getting in touch with other groups, etc and doing leafleting to different groups, but this is very new and therefore small. Hopefully it will gain momentum and a larger, more powerful movement can be built but it also seems like the anarchist movement in general is in decline.

Harrycombs
24th May 2008, 04:12
Very interesting, I hope this will help get the attention of more people in the country, and the movement will grow.

Did the attack on the US embassy a few years ago have anything to do with our comrades? I don't remember it that well.

nvm
24th May 2008, 06:12
Not really. While they are organized and numerous enough to be able to attack the police like this and perform some spectacular actions during demos, the movement itself is fairly contained without a real connection to a larger class struggle. Outside of, loosely, the squatting and university networks, there is not a whole lot of activity. Some comrades are working to do something about this by getting in touch with other groups, etc and doing leafleting to different groups, but this is very new and therefore small. Hopefully it will gain momentum and a larger, more powerful movement can be built but it also seems like the anarchist movement in general is in decline.


That's not true. The CPG(KKE) is deeply rooted in the class war and it actualy has revolutionary communist unions of workers , the second largest unions in greece and they are doing a great job.
So they are very close to the class struggle.
Yes , anarchists are far from the class struggle but they have started now anarcho-syndicalist unions and there has been a good response while the anarchist movement is more powerful now then ever, plus the anarchists now have an anarchist education that previously the other preceeding generations didn't have.
SYRIZA also (coalition of the radical left), although the leadership is reformist , many sections of SYRIZA -which is a big party almost like KKE -are very revolutionary and non-reformist.
The left movement in Greece is solid and organized and close to the class struggle.
That of course doesn't mean that there is no improvement needed.
I don't know who your comrades are but I have a different opinion than them.

bcbm
24th May 2008, 06:23
I am not familiar with the situation of the community party outside of some history and a little bit of study a number of years back, so I won't comment on that.

The rest I got from discussing with various comrades in Thessaloniki who have been involved for a number of years, but perhaps they are mistaken and, if so, then I of course am glad to hear it.

F9
24th May 2008, 13:45
As an ANTIFA action greeks are really some of the greatest.
But unfortunately some "kids" have a little problem with ideologies.they say that they are Anarchists but the only thing they know is Anarchy=chaos(of course not all greek comrades),they attack peoples cars,small business just because there are around some strike of them.They got a wrong impression of Anarchy.
Of course some strikes are really big and good and greeks ae awake in their rights,leftists fght for there rights so i dont think comrade Sperstar DJ its so bad the things in greece;)

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