GET READY FOR A WAR! - 1,000's of reserves are being called

[anti machine]

Well, it's finally come. The reserves have been called in great #'s. Politicians are talking of "revolutionizing" Iraq, and later Saudi Arabia and the entire Arab world, claiming that "democracy is possible even in the middle east". The imperial monster has waited long enough and is now finally rearing his ugly head. If something isnt done about this, soon the entire world will be one big American colony, of course in the U.S. style "democracy". This will be a dark day for us all.

[Nateddi]

I hope saddam kicks some yankee ass. I am anti-war at heart, but this time i see war as inevitable and am supporting saddam 100%.

[new democracy]

nateddi, why do you support a dictator that oppress the kurds? if america will create small copies of her all over the world that would be a tragedy. as my signature said: "revolution is necessary and possible!!!"

[Nateddi]

ahem

he is not going to fight the kurds, he is going to fight the americans. the enemy of my enemy will mostly always be my friend. i support any military action by saddam to retain his power and perhaps even counter attack the US.

[new democracy]

he is not going to fight the kurds, but in the past he fought them in a very cruel way. and he is going to lose the war because from what i saw in 1,991 the iraqi army didn't win then , and now the iraqi army is even more weak. and america will just bomb the country like they did in afghanistan.

[Ymir]

U.S. actions are self destructive. The more it attempts to control foreign nations the more they will resist....

I hope :/

[Nateddi]

saddam is not going to lose the war as the taliban lost the war.

he has an army, he has troops, he has equipment, he has popular support, he has allies.

america is basically all alone on this. with the exception of israel, every nation is against the invasion of iraq. america will have a tough time getting to saddam. i agree they will very likely win in the end, i do see this as a long and frustrating war, and I hope saddam can make it as long and frustrating for the yankees as possible

[Solzhenitsyn]

the enemy of my enemy will mostly always be my friend.

Very naive. Enemies of your enemy are short-term tactical allies at best.

Some here may be suprised to discover that I loathe the idea of Gulf War II. I don't support neocons or their imperial pretentions in the Middle East. Their brand of rabid warmongering imperialism pegs them for what they are: left over rabble from comrade Trotsky's shitty little I-should-be-the-dictator-instead-of-Stalin movement.

No doubt the Iraqis would be better off without Saddam. But it's not America's responsiblity to fix every backwater nation's political and economic problems.

[deimos]

he has popular support
popualr support?where?not in iraq!

[anti machine]

deimos, the people of iraq LOVE sadam-they worship him as their king and deliverer. Its sad and twisted, but i agree w/ nateddi in this one-i hope sadam kicks some G.I. ass.

[Mazdak]

Exactly. And the Kurds arent all they are cracked up to be.

I too, hope Iraq gives the imperialists a run for their money(and oil supplies).

[boadicea88]

I agree wholeheartedly with Nateddi, AM, and Mazdak.

Allah bless Saddam!

[Anonymous]

I hope the U.S. crushes Iraq like a tiny insect.

[anti machine]

American-style democracy popping up around the world would make a global communist revolution not only extremely difficult but near impossible. Especiallly since there is widespread talk and support for the imperialization of the entire arab world amongst our gov't leaders. Somehow, something must be done. This is an outrage. i am moved beyond the point of rage! DC, red-white-and-blue ignoramuses like yourself make me fucking sick.

[Anonymous]

Quote: from anti machine on 9:23 am on Aug. 25, 2002
American-style democracy popping up around the world would make a global communist revolution not only extremely difficult but near impossible.

GOOD! That's exactly what we need. Capitalism will spread all over the face of the Earth, and eventually to the rest of the solar system.

Who knows? Maybe someday even the stars.

[anti machine]

oh yeah, absolutely, let's expand the exploited proletaritat while the government steals every possible resourse from the working man until the man begins to like it. WHAT THE FUCK????!!!!! DC, you have no heart. Tell me the benefits of poverty and oppression. Please.

[boadicea88]

It keeps the rich in power.

[Anonymous]

What I meant was that we should spread the American style republican government, as well as free-market economics, to other nations.


And in case your wondering, I wasn't kidding when I said the solar system. Space could be very profitable, in fact thats already proving to be true.

It's only a matter of time before the U.S. has colonies on the Moon and Mars.

[vodun]

Quote: from Nateddi on 5:48 pm on Aug. 24, 2002
I hope saddam kicks some yankee ass. I am anti-war at heart, but this time i see war as inevitable and am supporting saddam 100%.
Saddam's a thug, and I would expect an ass like you to support him. It's very cute that you hope he kicks some yankee butt, but hope is all you got, because it ain't gonna happen. When will you understand? He'll get his ass kicked hard, should a war occur. You can count on this site to back a loser. Any Americans here that care to join Saddam's dwindling army? I'd almost respect you if you had the nuts to back up your small talk.

[new democracy]

sadam has popular support!? that explains why there was a big uprising of shia muslims and the south and a big kurd uprising in the north in 1,991. and shias and kurds together are about 80% of the country population!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Come on you guys! Sometimes a little positive imperialism can be good. :smile:

Both sides benefit.

Besides saddam is an evil dictator who kills his own people, he deserves whats coming to him.

[new democracy]

sadam does kill his people.but the bombing of the u.$ will kill innocent civilians too!!!

[Exploited Class]

At this point I am finding it harder and harder to believe that the U.S. will go to war with Iraq. Blair has already said Britain would not back this. Britain, being U.S.'s strongest foreign allies. Opinion polls in the U.S. are already showing a drop in favor of an attack against Iraq.

Ground war possibilities that have yet not even been explored in main stream media but are certainly realistic are also casting shadow of doubt on the U.S.'s ability to attack against Iraq.
Russia who has always had close ties to the Iraq has just opened an economic market with Iraq, while at the same time also agreed to help Iran with Nuclear power. Russia, who has had at best warm ties with America since Perestroika, does not waiver in showing that it is not an ally to the U.S. Most notably signing a friendship agreement with China, something it did not do through 50 years of cold war.
Iraq and Iran may settle long time differences and team up. Already during a failed attempt on an oil embargo with Israel, Iran was the only country to cooperate with Iraq on the idea. Stranger allies have occurred in history, like Communist Russia and the U.S. in WWII.
Saudi Arabia as well may join the bandwagon, already publicly stating that it would not allow U.S. forces to use Saudi bases for attacks against Iraq.
U.S. troops may already be stretched too thin with trying to stabilize and control the Afghanistan region coupled with fighting a ground war against Iraq and her possible allies on foreign soils and negative support from international community could leave America impotent in a take over attempt.
With all this too consider, it might be well to reason that an oil embargo on the U.S. from the Middle East is very possible and would most certainly cripple the already flailing U.S. economy.

It stands to reason that an attack on Iraq, with an ever growing amount of Anti-American hostilities in that region, could be pure suicide for the Americans. There is a lot of reason to believe that an attack on Iraq will not occur.

[deimos]

be sure,it will occure!And it will be the end of saddam and his tyrranic reign!!

[Xvall]

I don't like Saddam, but I hope he wins. We do not need another stupid sattalite imperialist country. With much luck, naybe Saddam and George will kill each other.

[anti machine]

DC, the only positive imperialism i can see is expanding the communist horizon, not invaded Iraq and implementing America's bullshit democracy.

[deimos]

i don't carte for the democracy at first,i care for saddam!I don't care who kills him!The americans have my permission........

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Nateddi on 5:48 pm on Aug. 24, 2002
I hope saddam kicks some yankee ass. I am anti-war at heart, but this time i see war as inevitable and am supporting saddam 100%.


Yeah, we're really scared. He may take us down, just like he did in 1991.

LOL, get serious.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Nateddi on 6:38 pm on Aug. 24, 2002
saddam is not going to lose the war as the taliban lost the war.

he has an army, he has troops, he has equipment, he has popular support, he has allies.

america is basically all alone on this. with the exception of israel, every nation is against the invasion of iraq. america will have a tough time getting to saddam. i agree they will very likely win in the end, i do see this as a long and frustrating war, and I hope saddam can make it as long and frustrating for the yankees as possible


apparently nateddi was asleep in 1991 when we easily defeated Saddams army, which was the world's 4th largest at the time, and our forces equalled about 1/4 the size of his (albiet far more advanced), and our defeat of them was among the most quick and successful and decisive in world history.

what is he thinking?

[munkey soup]

It amuses me to see such "progresseve" left-minded people support a dictator such as Saddam. I am against the war, mainly because I feel it would adversely destabilize the region, creating instances for fundamentalists to seize even more control over the minds of the starving and poor civilians of these Middle Eastern countries; forcing out any chance for actual progressive change.

But if a war were to occur, I would definately not support Hussein. "the enemy of my enemy is my friend," what type of bullshit is that. I guess that would make the oh-so-great bin Laden your guys' friend then, huh. Or how 'bout those progressive-thinking Taliban.

If you would rather see the Kurds and the people of Iraq starve and die under the dictatorship of Saddam, than see them have the small chance of creating their own government and democracy, then I cannot call you a comrade of mine.

I am not a pro-american, but I am not a pro-dictator either.

[Mazdak]

The enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Saddam is not exactly Satan either.

[boadicea88]

Quote: from vodun on 9:43 pm on Aug. 24, 2002

Quote: from Nateddi on 5:48 pm on Aug. 24, 2002
I hope saddam kicks some yankee ass. I am anti-war at heart, but this time i see war as inevitable and am supporting saddam 100%.
Saddam's a thug, and I would expect an ass like you to support him. It's very cute that you hope he kicks some yankee butt, but hope is all you got, because it ain't gonna happen. When will you understand? He'll get his ass kicked hard, should a war occur. You can count on this site to back a loser. Any Americans here that care to join Saddam's dwindling army? I'd almost respect you if you had the nuts to back up your small talk.


I am American, and I'd join his army if I a) were over there, and B) were old enough- I'm 14.

Right on, Mazdak.

[Guest]

Hahahahahaha Vodun owned all you punk "look at me I am a commie" *****es. The only one of you that I respect here is Munkey Soup, that man has his shit together.

Boadicea you are 14 and you don't know dick, you were what 3-4 when the Gulf War happened? I am also certain you have no sense of real world politics and dealings besides the garbage you pick up from un-informed angry idiots here.

P.S. I hate you all

Heart, Tom

[anti machine]

I think more innocent people have died at Dubya's hand than at Sadam's.

[Guest]

hahaha Anti-Machine you just made probably the most blatantly ignorant comment ever! Congratulations, you are a fucking idiot.

Heart, Tom

[Dynatos]

Oh a war will come my friends.

''A major nuclear confrontation will occur in the Middle East. The
aggressor will have broken a promise not to use nuclear weapons in
warfare. Naval fleets kept in the area by other powers will be
scattered in ruins from the violence of the blast.

Radioactive fallout and its effect on people, animals, and weather,
and erupting volcanoes will turn the water of that part of the ocean
a muddy red color. Because of this bodies will appear to float in
blood. Because of the blasts and earth changes, rivers will change
their course, and political boundary lines based on them will be
redrawn.

The U.S. will have a Democratic president at the time. He will get
involved with the conflict as a way of trying to stimulate the
economy from a depression.''-Nostradamus
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/nostradamus/part6/

Well i don't know how reliable Nostradamus is. He also says that the anti-christ from the middle east will conquer europe, N. africa and parts of asia witch seems highly unlikely. I just find it interesting that Nostradamus mentions an anti-christ from the middle-east and that Nostradamus talks about the united states, unclear wepons and all that stuff.

[Social Democratic]

The US is going to war purely for economic security, its a sad fact but true.
The US needs to secure that resource for middle eastern expansion and to have a less eratic import/export deficit, they need it in their controel, not "satans",

[munkey soup]

I find it hard to believe Nostradamus used the exact words "United States" "Nuclear Weapon" "Middle East" "Radioactive fallout" and other such modern terms. If you can cite an exact text from Nostradamus that shows him using these terms, instead of the unreliable site you link to, maybe my mind will change.

EDIT: sorry if I sound like a dick, I'm currently working on a paper for class thats due tommorrow.

(Edited by munkey soup at 10:03 pm on Aug. 26, 2002)

[Dynatos]

Well i thought those where Nostradamus's exact words but aparantly there not. maby i should have done some more research befor posting that. sorry.

[boadicea88]

Quote: from Guest on 7:49 pm on Aug. 26, 2002
hahaha Anti-Machine you just made probably the most blatantly ignorant comment ever! Congratulations, you are a fucking idiot.

Heart, Tom


He's an idiot?! More innocent people have died at Dumbass's hand. I read on Rense.com that the U$A and Britain have bombed Iraq from aircraft, dunno how reliable Rense is, either, but it sounds like something Dumbass would do. Who needs Congress, anyhow? It just gets in the way.

[anti machine]

thank you, boadice.

Here you go "tom": visit voices in the wilderness, a campaign against the sanctions on Iraq, at www.vitw.org

Ignorance is abundant on this site. tsk, tsk, tsk, go do some research.