stalin and hitler - What the stalinists put down the 'memory

[peaccenicked]

click here (http://www.hvk.org/articles/0198/0053.html)

[Deamon]

Exaggerated greatly, hitler did not kill 25 million people and stalin's russia didn't kill 20 million either.

[Mazdak]

Yes! a new stalinist!!

And the estimates i heard were 20 million casualtises of war on stalins side, however i heard only a million died during the thirties. ther goes your 50 million death estimate.

This site glorifies Robert Conquest!!! It is obviously exaggerating, as he is famous for doing about stalin and Beria.

[Xvall]

Hitler killed WELL over 25,000,000 people!

[Anonymous]

So 65 million were killed in china, eh? I thought you leftists frowned on those type of statistics.

[Moskitto]

This site glorifies Robert Conquest!!! It is obviously exaggerating,

Werth, who wrote the best part of the Black Book of Communism (about the USSR) and later disaccociated himself from the final death toll and philosophical conclusions placed in the introduction. Admitted that Conquest exxagerated.

Also people use this book to say how evil Cuba is even though Courtois exempted Cuba and the Sandinistas from the worst crimes cited.

Also it seems strange that 65% was in 1 country, 1 fucking enormous country.

And Pol Pot was not a communist, most evil person of all time nazi master-race believing scum bag yes, but communist? nope.

[Mazdak]

Pol Pot? Not Communist. Khmer rouge

khmer=cambodian
Rouge- RED

of course he was, he was just a madman and or some strange reason, the US supported him against vietnam even though he was far worse then Ho Chi Minh.

[Moskitto]

"Khmer Rouge" - So What? "National Socialist Party", "Peoples Democratic Republic of Korea", "World Church of the Creator", "Democratic Republic of the Congo", names mean nothing.

No, I think you'll find he only said he was a communist to get the support of Mao in China. Vietnam hated him, the USSR hated him. Just because his group's called the "Khmer Rouge" it doesn't make them communist.

And how the fuck is believing in a master race communist?

[Xvall]

Moskitto is right, anyone can throw a name around. Hitler could have called his place the 'Democratic Reich of Tolerance'. It doesn't mean shit! Anyone can go around naming themselves 'communist' or 'socialist', and then killing a bunch of people so more of you idiots can point the finger at anyone who likes Marx (Born before any of that crap happened) and say 'Oooh! Oooh! You support Genocide!'.

[suffianr]

Drake, you took the words right outta me mouth! There's just too many poseurs and fucking false prophets nowadays, anyone with a half-decent approach to bullshitting can get away with anything...It's all in the packaging :)

[Moskitto]

I remember I found a site of heroes and villains and in the villains section, although I don't remember it, It was just basically Hitler, Mengele, Himmler and co (actually, my dad thinks that Himmler and the other Nazis used Hitler to carry out their plans), Stalin, Mao, Milosevic, Karadzic and co. I certainly don't remember it mentioning Leopold II, Lothar Von Trotha and I don't remember it mentioning Pol Pot (I would probably notice if it mentioned Pol Pot because I consider him the most evil person who ever lived.)

[Mazdak]

Pol Pot was a megalomaniac and a racist. However, this does not change his belief in communism. Even if he was evil.

[boadicea88]

I don't know enough about Stalin (or Pol Pot) to have a very intelligent opinion, but it looks like that article is extremely biased.

[peaccenicked]

The article is extremely biased, but it is based on facts.

[Guest]

Facts are a little stretched...

[Guest]

And I also note that the facts seem to be very anti-communist... why did you post this?