Left-Biased Media - My thoughts....

[j]

I believe that the media is labeled as "leftist" by the right. They do this to make people think that the media is as liberal and to the left as it gets. This way, any idea that is to the left of this so called "liberal" media would be classified as extremist.

This makes the true left, who are way to the left of the NY Times, seem truly extremist when they are in fact nothing of that nature.

Any thoughts?

j

[Deamon]

Considering the majority of american media is controlled by jews, and conservatives are supporters of most israel's action, which I assume is because they could be painted in poor light by the media, maybe they're just bitter.

[deadpool 52]

Whether right or left is irrelevant, they are not selling news nor the truth, but dillusions.

And it is foolish to describe such a large entity as that as being either on 'left' or 'right.'

[j]

I guess my point was that the labeling of the media as "liberal" is an attempt by the conservatives to distort what the actual left really is.

I didn't say that the media is really left or right. It is really just a pawn in the capitalist game.

j

[Edelweiss]

Quote: from Deamon on 4:40 am on Aug. 22, 2002
Considering the majority of american media is controlled by jews

oh no, not again one of this idiots, please...

[suffianr]

I'd agree with you in that sense, j, because the media, despite any romantic connontations of it being the "fourth estate" or "without fear or favour", largely depends on the free market in order to flourish. Especially now with the Internet, broadband, globalism, blah, blah, blah...Just look at the difference between media operations in Third World countries (yes, I hate that stereotype phrase too, but everybody uses it) and the West, and you'll see some very worrying situations.

Where I live, Malaysia, the media employs developmental journalism. This essentially means that the media works in ways that support national policies and skews coverage in favour of the ruling parties. It adopts an intensely protectionist stance on foreign issues and regional politics, and builds initiative to strengthen nationalism, patriotism and all that.

This might sound good on paper, but in practice, it sucks. It doesn't help that my government owns almost all the newspapers in every language: English, Malay, Mandarin, Tamil, which basically means that the media is not liberal or free but entirely government-controlled. There is no real freedom of speech here; you can get detained indefinitely under the Internal Security Act (ISA) for treason if you piss off the top brass. There is the Printing and Publications Act, which requires publications to renew their printing licenses every month, subject to the approval of content by the Home Ministry. All this adds up to total and complete repression. The only safe place nowadays is the Internet, which our beloved Prime Minister promised he wouldn't touch (oh, don't scare away the investors by locking up all your journalists).

Yes, we're all just a bunch of fucking pawns...

[Nateddi]

Malte the media is controlled mostly by Jews, it is a fact. This is why when an african dictator causes famine that kills thousands they are virtually ignored; meanwhile if a suicide bomber blows himself up and scratches an israeli finger, it is all over the news. This is why the only openely not pro-israel congresswomen has been labeled anti-semetic on the american media. This is not the case in europe as far as I have heard. I would read the chapter called "the real anti-semitism" in Chomsky's "Understanding Power", it explains with interesting examples what I mean.

The "liberal" media is merely non-sadist right. Most in the media are not openely anti social spending, and most are not bible thumping religious right spewing hypocritical bullshit. Its the media's way of being "polite" or politically correct. The media however is not left to the point that it takes anti-corporate sentiments, even in worldcom/enron type of scandals.

[pastradamus]

yeah,but nate.I can understand him.the guys had it with these ****s.
Even though he mighnt be one.he cud devolope into one

[Mazdak]

Malte, how cna it be denied that if a Jew controls a newspaper, the chances of the newspaper ever having anything anti Israeli in it is very slim.

[vox]

Using the Media Ownership chart (http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml), I tried to determine who is in charge of the biggest media corporations, which, as we all should know by now, have a very large say in what is seen and heard, especially in the West. Looking at the CEO's, I found that Jews are outnumbered 2-1. Is this indicative of a "Jewish controlled media?"

1. AOL Time-Warner: CEO Richard Parsons, not Jewish
2. Disney: CEO Michael Eisner, Jewish
3. Bertelsmann: CEO Thomas Middelhoff, not Jewish
4. Viacom: CEO Sumner Redstone, Jewish
5. News Corporation: CEO Rupert Murdoch, not Jewish

Vivendi: CEO Jean-Rene Fourtou, not Jewish (as far as I could determine)

Now, perhaps, we can focus on the class struggle, which is neglected by pretty much all mainstream media outlets, rather than on some sort of conspiracy of Jews, eh?

vox

[Guest]

Fuck off Deamon you have no place here.

So what you are saying is that if Chomsky ran a Newspaper it would be bad for the left because he is a Jew.

This kind of ethnic determinism is innaccurate, racist and offensive.

What is signifiicane is the ideological persuasion of person who owns the media. If you go on far right websites you will find right wing idiots not entirely dissimilar from yourself who would say that Jewish power is taking America in a left wing direction, and similarly there are 'leftists' such as yourself who blame us for right wing trends.

Notice a pattern?

[Reuben]

THAT WAS ME FORGOT TO SIGN IN

[Reuben]

Quote: from vox on 1:42 pm on Aug. 23, 2002
Using the Media Ownership chart (http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml), I tried to determine who is in charge of the biggest media corporations, which, as we all should know by now, have a very large say in what is seen and heard, especially in the West. Looking at the CEO's, I found that Jews are outnumbered 2-1. Is this indicative of a "Jewish controlled media?"

1. AOL Time-Warner: CEO Richard Parsons, not Jewish
2. Disney: CEO Michael Eisner, Jewish
3. Bertelsmann: CEO Thomas Middelhoff, not Jewish
4. Viacom: CEO Sumner Redstone, Jewish
5. News Corporation: CEO Rupert Murdoch, not Jewish

Vivendi: CEO Jean-Rene Fourtou, not Jewish (as far as I could determine)

Now, perhaps, we can focus on the class struggle, which is neglected by pretty much all mainstream media outlets, rather than on some sort of conspiracy of Jews, eh?

vox


Thank you Vox for showing that the idea of the jewish controlled media has more basis in traditional racist ideology than fact.

Regarding Murdoch I have one Islamic fundamentalist friend who is convinced that hes jewish and wont accept that hes not LOL.

[Edelweiss]

Deamon = Thine Stalin, recently banned National Bolshvik

Good bye, Nazi scum!

[Sasafrás]

Now, perhaps, we can focus on the class struggle, which is neglected by pretty much all mainstream media outlets, rather than on some sort of conspiracy of Jews, eh?Yeah, I don't think it's really about left or right (or Jews much either). This is America (for me & many of us), so it should be given that the news media here are mostly going to be against the left. But regardless, it's not very often you hear about groups or individuals who are fighting against the system unless they're on the verge of being imprisoned. And, it's not often that you are given a reason why anyone would even be motivated to fight in the struggle.

Deamon is (was) Thine Stalin? Damn...

[I Will Deny You]

The guy named Redstone is Jewish, and the guy named Middelhoff is a goy? Oy vey!

Malte, I told you my Jew-dar was rusty. It must be broken completely by now. At this moment, I couldn't tell a Jew from a gentile if my deli sandwich and Dr. Brown's lunch depended on it.

Lindsay

[Mazdak]

Blast, how did malte figure it out. I am alone again... shit.

[vox]

"The guy named Redstone is Jewish, and the guy named Middelhoff is a goy? Oy vey!"

Redstone isn't his original name. I can't remember exactly, but I think it was Rothstien or something similar. Middlehoff surprised me a little, too, but that's what I found.

vox

[Reuben]

It really pisses me off when jews anglesize their names.

Those in England might be interested to know that former home secretary Micheal Howard who ws a complete mumsa to immigrants was actually named Micheal Hecht anmd his fAmily were immigrants themselves

[Guest]

>: ( this is stupid, take my banning off, I can post anyway and I'll probably re-register. But gah! Its frustrating.

And to the other guest that posted, how dare you accuse it of such, its not like I said, 'all jews are in the media' or something like that, I didn't even criticize jews, I might be complimenting them on becoming so powerful, I asked a jewish friend yesterday, he had no problem with it. Are you a jew guest?

[Guest]

Quote: from vox on 1:42 pm on Aug. 23, 2002
Using the Media Ownership chart (http://www.mediachannel.org/ownership/chart.shtml), I tried to determine who is in charge of the biggest media corporations, which, as we all should know by now, have a very large say in what is seen and heard, especially in the West. Looking at the CEO's, I found that Jews are outnumbered 2-1. Is this indicative of a "Jewish controlled media?"

1. AOL Time-Warner: CEO Richard Parsons, not Jewish
2. Disney: CEO Michael Eisner, Jewish
3. Bertelsmann: CEO Thomas Middelhoff, not Jewish
4. Viacom: CEO Sumner Redstone, Jewish
5. News Corporation: CEO Rupert Murdoch, not Jewish

Vivendi: CEO Jean-Rene Fourtou, not Jewish (as far as I could determine)

Now, perhaps, we can focus on the class struggle, which is neglected by pretty much all mainstream media outlets, rather than on some sort of conspiracy of Jews, eh?

vox


But take into account that jews make up 2% or something extremely tiny, of the U.S population, and you'll see how heavily influenced we are by a tiny minorities opinion, not to say all jews agree with disney or viacom, but to say that two companies controlled by jews have a large influence. Alot of american media corporations are owned by christians, is it racist to say this? No.

[truthaddict11]

what about NBC? owned by General Electric the worlds biggest nuke makers? i dont think NBC is going to show anything bad about nukes anytime soon