not communist?

[new democracy]

i must say that i am not a communist but i understand how it should work. i know there were no communist countries because they didnt reach communism. but you cant say that the leaders of those countries were not communist. when you say "there were no communist countries" you mean that the leaders were not true communist. you can say that they didnt undrstand marxism if you want to but you cant say that the leaders were not true communist. what do you think?

[RedCeltic]

They where vanguardists.

[new democracy]

yes, they were vanguardists. but that doesnt mean they were not communist.

[RedCeltic]

I consider communism ( most of it anyway) to be vangurardist.

Democratic Socialists
Marxist-De Leon Socialists
World Socialists

are all non communist and non Vanguardist.