maoist3
16th August 2002, 00:13
In the "Long Live Stalin!" thread, Malte
and some others are desperately trying
to change the topic. Now Malte says,
"Maoist, I know I can't really accuse you that, but how came that so many Maoists are turning Nazi's? Especially in Germany, some leading Neo-Nazi's were Maoists before."
maoist3 replies for the Maoist Internationalist Movement:
How many are we talking about? In February and
March 2002, it came to light that there were so many
government agents in the National Democratic Party
(neo-Nazis) that they were setting each other up
for trials. The most militant Nazi material turns out
to be written by government agents. The top leadership
was so infiltrated numerically that it was difficult to
tell what the party would be without the government agents.
I read that 40% of the leaders were now known
to have been agents from various agencies.
Recycling of government agents is the norm. Infiltrate
one, then another group.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/st...,711642,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,711642,00.html)
Now I would like to address why Malte does this.
That is the fact that it was the Stalin supporters who
took down Hitler--because
the West did so little of the actual fighting, and instead
all of Europe quickly capitulated to Hitler, thanks to the
general range of mushy socialist, social-democratic and other Nazi-symp views that broke the
backbone of the potential resistance. So now these mushy socialists
and decadent imperialism-supporters need to rewrite
World War II to whitewash their own roles.
They came up with "totalitarianism is a
repressive system that cannot change without
outside armed intervention." That turned out
wrong when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The mushy socialists said that communism
caused Nazism by threatening the system. Now that
communism is supposedly "dead," who are they
going to blame the rise of Neo-Nazism on? Is it not
becoming clearer and clearer that what Stalin said
was right all along, that Nazism was a product of
decadent imperialism?
Vox is here spouting Michael Harrington. Instead of pointing out
that Harrington's organization had fraternal ties to Mitterand and the Austrian Social Democrats,
Malte attacks us Stalin-supporters.
Mitterand was not just some infiltrator cop or
neo-Nazi punk. He was an official in a Nazi collaborator
regime in France during World War II.
As time goes on, Stalin's "social-fascist" thesis only receives further vindication. As we reported in MIM Notes 93, it turns out that social-democratic president of France for 14 years Francois Mitterand served as an official in the Nazi collaborator Vichy government, received a medal for it in 1943 and stayed friends with the police chief of that regime till the bitter end. It goes to show what kind of material these social- democrats are.
In MIM Notes 209, we explained how the Wall Street Journal reported the Austrian Social-Democratic Party's first-ever admission of ties to the Nazi party during the war and even after it. This was April, 2000. It took till the year 2000 for the social-democrats and bourgeois press to admit it, but Stalin was correct already from 1928-1934 (on how worthless the social-democrats were in fighting fascism) and also in 1939 for breaking with them.
Vox and others on this list need to vet their own
ties to that, but instead Malte tries to turn good into
bad and bad into good in a typically post-modern
way by attacking us pro-Stalin supporters for the
scourge we ended and that they are allowing rebirth of.
and some others are desperately trying
to change the topic. Now Malte says,
"Maoist, I know I can't really accuse you that, but how came that so many Maoists are turning Nazi's? Especially in Germany, some leading Neo-Nazi's were Maoists before."
maoist3 replies for the Maoist Internationalist Movement:
How many are we talking about? In February and
March 2002, it came to light that there were so many
government agents in the National Democratic Party
(neo-Nazis) that they were setting each other up
for trials. The most militant Nazi material turns out
to be written by government agents. The top leadership
was so infiltrated numerically that it was difficult to
tell what the party would be without the government agents.
I read that 40% of the leaders were now known
to have been agents from various agencies.
Recycling of government agents is the norm. Infiltrate
one, then another group.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/st...,711642,00.html (http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,711642,00.html)
Now I would like to address why Malte does this.
That is the fact that it was the Stalin supporters who
took down Hitler--because
the West did so little of the actual fighting, and instead
all of Europe quickly capitulated to Hitler, thanks to the
general range of mushy socialist, social-democratic and other Nazi-symp views that broke the
backbone of the potential resistance. So now these mushy socialists
and decadent imperialism-supporters need to rewrite
World War II to whitewash their own roles.
They came up with "totalitarianism is a
repressive system that cannot change without
outside armed intervention." That turned out
wrong when the Soviet Union collapsed.
The mushy socialists said that communism
caused Nazism by threatening the system. Now that
communism is supposedly "dead," who are they
going to blame the rise of Neo-Nazism on? Is it not
becoming clearer and clearer that what Stalin said
was right all along, that Nazism was a product of
decadent imperialism?
Vox is here spouting Michael Harrington. Instead of pointing out
that Harrington's organization had fraternal ties to Mitterand and the Austrian Social Democrats,
Malte attacks us Stalin-supporters.
Mitterand was not just some infiltrator cop or
neo-Nazi punk. He was an official in a Nazi collaborator
regime in France during World War II.
As time goes on, Stalin's "social-fascist" thesis only receives further vindication. As we reported in MIM Notes 93, it turns out that social-democratic president of France for 14 years Francois Mitterand served as an official in the Nazi collaborator Vichy government, received a medal for it in 1943 and stayed friends with the police chief of that regime till the bitter end. It goes to show what kind of material these social- democrats are.
In MIM Notes 209, we explained how the Wall Street Journal reported the Austrian Social-Democratic Party's first-ever admission of ties to the Nazi party during the war and even after it. This was April, 2000. It took till the year 2000 for the social-democrats and bourgeois press to admit it, but Stalin was correct already from 1928-1934 (on how worthless the social-democrats were in fighting fascism) and also in 1939 for breaking with them.
Vox and others on this list need to vet their own
ties to that, but instead Malte tries to turn good into
bad and bad into good in a typically post-modern
way by attacking us pro-Stalin supporters for the
scourge we ended and that they are allowing rebirth of.