Dear vox........ [Archive]

American Kid

12th August 2002, 02:30

So you said no one would be able to find even one. Well here's three:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...pic=704&start=0 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=704&start=0)

(felecia and James give their regards)

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=714 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=714)

(Irish Guevara sends his praises)

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=741 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=741)

(Nateddi gives a high-five) (later on in that same thread, Supermodel does the same, but I don't know if she qualifies as a lefty or not)

So there you go. I hope you're satisfied. There's half an hour out of my life I can never get back. Now I know what Peacennicked must feel like.

-AK

(btw, I know, I know:

"AK, you're list means absolutely nothing to me. Typical rightist drivel.

vox"

.................I know, I know.........)

vox

12th August 2002, 02:53

Since all three threads were started by CI, and you didn't offer any clarification, which I said you should give if you felt it necessary, I can only assume that you mean the first post in all three threads are examples of CI's "brightness."

Well, hmmmm. The first one, I would say, is simple common sense. If someone builds explosives, he may blow himself up. Not really exceptional, is it?

The second one may have been garnered from the pages of "Soldier of Fortune," I don't know, but, again, doesn't show anything other than that he's read an article about a weapon. Again, not really indicative of being bright. After all, it wasn't about theory or anything like that, just a factual article, I would, again, have to assume.

Which brings us to number three. Maybe I'm missing the cleverness? I don't know. I do know that I'm not missing the outright lie about food drops in Afghanistan. You gave three examples, I'll go you two better, from various organizations:

abcnews.go.com/sections/world/DailyNews/strike_fooddrops011009.html

www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1008-01.htm

www.brc21.org/resources/res_food.html

www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/10/09/gen.aid.agencies/

www.commondreams.org/views01/1009-14.htm

Things like CI's seventh point are, to be sure, not grounded in anything but rhetoric. Where is the talk of the role of the US in Latin America, or Haiti? Nowhere to be found, is it? It doesn't suit the author's bizarre point.

Thanks for replying, AK. I find it very amusing that these were the best examples you could find. Now, call me a dick some more to make yourself feel better. We all know that this is really about my first post to you. Y'know, for a guy who loves films, you sure can't talk about them very well, can ya?

vox

Capitalist Imperial

12th August 2002, 03:08

Thanks AK, I appreciate that, I really do.

Vox, I think you totally missed the point of the 1st reference. It is ostensible that building explosives is dangerous. My point was that an individual was inherently endorsing what amounts to mostly teenagers, many of whom are impressionable regardless of ideology, and tend to think of themselves as revolutionaries, to read a book giving instructions on how to make anti-personel devices and employ them.

As for the comments regarding the other 2 posts, I can forsee another Vox/CI theorhetical debate, and I abstain at this time due to time constraints, though I will read your articles and respond soon.

American Kid

12th August 2002, 03:10

Flattered the quick response.

I didn't feel the need to give any explanations.

As amusing (and nonetheless equally flattering) as your first post to me was, it's dwarfed in comparison to some of the ones you made later on. :) Not to sell that one short. It was still impressive and occupies a very warm place in my heart to this day.

vox, my friend (?), you're a condescending, self-righteous know-it-all who, when he makes sweeping, outrageous blanket-statements like the one I so (oh, so) deftly proved as false above ^, does nothing but expose himself as the ignorant, miserable prick he is. That makes me feel good. Calling you a dick is a concession.

xoxoxoxo

-AK

(I can actually talk film very well. Knowing not to post politically-leaning topics in "Chit Chat" was what took me a while to get used to. And obviously I've come to excel there as well, as I happen to be the only "cappie" left standing)

word

(Edited by American Kid at 3:13 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

American Kid

12th August 2002, 03:17

Okay, actually here's some explanations.

GODDAMNIT. FUCKING GODDAMNIT. JESUS CHRIST ON THE CROSS.

I-put-names-of-confirmed-leftists-under-the-links-in-paranthesis- (goddamn you for making me half to spell "paranthesis" ). When-you-click-the-links-scroll-down-and-find-THEIR-GODDAMN-POSTS-WHAT IS THIS FUCKING AMATEUR HOUR?

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 3:18 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

vox

12th August 2002, 03:21

I'm condescending? Perhaps to capitalist tripe, yes.

However, my post in this thread, despite having responses, goes unanswered, which is typical.

I ripped you a new one before, AK (which, considering how you try to suck up to people, I'm beginning to think stands for Ass Kisser), and, if you ever write a post with any substance, for despite your verbosity your posts are light as clouds, I'll do it again.

Ta,

vox

Capitalist Imperial

12th August 2002, 03:24

Quote: from American Kid on 3:10 am on Aug. 12, 2002
Flattered the quick response.

I didn't feel the need to give any explanations.

As amusing (and nonetheless equally flattering) as your first post to me was, it's dwarfed in comparison to some of the ones you made later on. :) Not to sell that one short. It was still impressive and occupies a very warm place in my heart to this day.

vox, my friend (?), you're a condescending, self-righteous know-it-all who, when he makes sweeping, outrageous blanket-statements like the one I so (oh, so) deftly proved as false above ^, does nothing but expose himself as the ignorant, miserable prick he is. That makes me feel good. Calling you a dick is a concession.

xoxoxoxo

-AK

(I can actually talk film very well. Knowing not to post politically-leaning topics in "Chit Chat" was what took me a while to get used to. And obviously I've come to excel there as well, as I happen to be the only "cappie" left standing)

word

(Edited by American Kid at 3:13 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

AK, I agree 100%. BTW, While I appreciate your support, I also think that maybe we (or you, I guess) should not have entertained this challenge, as it assumes vox to be the omnipotent, be-all end-all of what is brilliant and relevant.

He is not.

All prejudices aside, and overlooking his condecending attitude and lack of a sense of humor, Vox is a smart person. I won't deny this. Vox, however, will never give a reciprocal acknowledgement

As I have stated before, I, or any cappie, could submit a working theory and application for cold fusion, and he would still not acknowledge 1 smidgeon of intelligence on my part. He is that biased against the right.

Anyway, good to see you back, hope the toe's better.

American Kid

12th August 2002, 03:38

Who does "American Kid" suck up to?

Hey, dude, just because I know how to work a room (as opposed to your charming morticianesque demeanor), doesn't mean I'm an ass-kisser. I have just as many enemies (believe it or not) here as you do, vox.

I'm beginning to think vox stands for...........uh, very omnipotent..........xylophone.......player (damn, again I lose the battle of the wits...........)

xoxoxoxo (to everyone, especially mine enemies)

-AK

thanks CI. Though the dog stepped on it yesterday while playing ball. We're back to square one. Rock and roll :)

vox

12th August 2002, 03:43

"Vox, however, will never give a reciprocal acknowledgement"

Now that's just not true. There are plenty of people here who I think are smart. In fact, I'll name two right now that, if you've looked at the history of this board, may surprise you: Peacenicked (though I really wish he'd clean up his language before he posts) and Nateddi (who is a Leninist and I've got nothing good to say about them).

See?

Peace and I got into a much uglier fight than any I've ever had here with a right-winger (though, to be honest, it wasn't all Peace, there were two others involved who no longer post here).

I think I've made my feelings about right-wingers clear: they are disgusting examples of exactly how terrible and dreadful a human being can be. Again, I've posted about this before. Indeed, twice I've posted about why I think right-wingers are inhuman filth.

The right acts solely in the interest of the "elite," that is, the wealthy. Slashing humanitarian programs and increasing corporate welfare is somehow supposed to improve the quality of life for the citizenry. There are no examples of this working, of course. Not ever.

I should respect them anyway? These filthy inflictors of pain? These rotten purveyors of avarice?

No.

Not now.

Not ever.

I know that some on this board wish to be friendly with right-wingers. I am not one of them. There is not now, nor has there ever been, any doubt about my position.

vox

American Kid

12th August 2002, 03:49

Hey, war is war, I understand.

(though watch what you say around Howard Zinn, as he doesn't think the rest of us can handle a mature, adult conversation or discussion, or movie, about it without rushing out and throwing on a tin helmet with a gun in one hand and a grenade in the other.)

(right?)

vox. I've never said you weren't intelligent. I'll concur that until the.........uh, cows come home. Seriously, you're smart, everyone here knows it.

Thoughhhhhhhhhh...... I personally am having my doubts as you totally, TOTALLY misinterperted my original post to start this thread here. TOTALLY mis-read it. Totally. I mean, really. You ruined it for me.

-AK

vox

12th August 2002, 03:52

"I personally am having my doubts as you totally, TOTALLY misinterperted my original post to start this thread here. TOTALLY mis-read it. Totally. I mean, really. You ruined it for me."

Feel free to give examples. Damn, do I have to teach right-wingers how to use a message board, too?

If I ruined it, show me, and everyone else, how I ruined it. C'mon, kid. You should know better.

vox

American Kid

12th August 2002, 04:03

Here's how you ruined it (read slowly if you must; or have someone read it to you, slowly) :

Each of those links I posted, to begine this thread, was a link to a thread here at Che-lives, which, granted, CI started-

BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS STUPID THING IS YOU SAID THAT CI DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THIS FORUM AND THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM.

That's the whole point of this "thing", vox. Now lookit, what I did, was I went back and found three threads where people (leftists) said NICE THINGS and/or ACKNOWLEDGED A POST OF HIS AS BEING SOMETHING RELEVANT AND/OR CONSTRUCTIVE, A PHENOMENA WHICH YOU CLAIMED DID NOT EXIST HERE AS AN ENTITY IN THIS FORUM.

I posted the links, underneath I wrote (clearly) the person's name whose specific post was to BE OF NOTE.

GODDAMINIT. GODDAMNIT, IT'S NOT FUCKING BRAIN SURGERY, I'VE GOTTEN TWO DIFFERENT PM'S SO FAR FROM PEOPLE SAYING:

"Dude, vox totally didn't get your post."

You thought I was trying to show good posts that CI has done in the past (which would be a far simpler task). You were so, so, so off topic it's not (seriously) it's not even funny. I'm sitting here shaking my head going, "Did I..........write it wrong?" The answer is: negative. vox just needs pictures I guess with his words.

That, simply, is how you ruined it. I proved you wrong, and you didn't even realize it. Which is doubly-satisfying in it's own right, but not how I wanted.

-A to the K

(Edited by American Kid at 4:06 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

Anonymous

12th August 2002, 04:17

Well isn't this interesting? :biggrin:

vox

12th August 2002, 04:23

"YOU SAID THAT CI DOESN'T ADD ANYTHING TO THIS FORUM AND THAT NO ONE HAS EVER SAID ANYTHING GOOD ABOUT HIM."

AK is lying.

Here's the proof: www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=776&start=10 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=776&start=10)

What I wrote was this: "I will, however, take you up on your offer to provide some quotes from CI that show how "bright" he is. Better yet, just leave links to the appropriate pages of whatever threads you find, adding any clarification you feel is necessary. That way you won't have to explain the situation for the quote to make sense. See how nice I am?"

Anyone can go to the thread where this started to see the proof.

"You were so, so, so off topic it's not (seriously) it's not even funny."

I'm exactly ON topic. AK is, clearly, the one who has resorted to lying and is, without any doubt, off-topic.

How much clearer can this be?

vox

(Edited by vox at 11:24 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)

American Kid

12th August 2002, 04:34

Such a goofball. Get tripped up by your inability to compute what's going on, then fall back on semantics.

Okay everyone, take an hour to type up vox's link here (as I just did) and read it. I won't dispute his quote. Unless I hack the site. :)

Scroll up a little and read his post before that one: "Does ANYONE have any use for this guy anymore....?"

(and then read my RESPONSE to that post, and what he writes afterwards)

I figured I'd show you. Which is what I did. Now you can kill this whole thing and be like, "AK, you were the one totally off-topic," which, at it's best, would only be half-true.

Still doesn't erase the fact you couldn't figure out what I've been trying to do on this thread since the first post. That's woeful.

Consider this round one. And consider this not over. The Kid is going to bed now (he has a life, remember?) I'll clock in tomorrow and we'll continue this. I promise.

I wouldn't want to leave everyone waiting.

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 4:36 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

American Kid

12th August 2002, 04:37

Thanks vox for posting that thread for me, by the way.

-AK

vox

12th August 2002, 05:00

"and then read my RESPONSE to that post"

Here's a direct quote from AK, from the response he just told everyone to read: "The point is, he's bright..."

That's when I asked for some posts, because AK previously wrote that he'd "try to go back and site some."

It's very clear that I am right and AK is lying his ass off to save face.

It's very clear that AK completely misrepresented what I said (see my last post in this thread).

It's very clear that AK accuses me of "falling back on semantics" because he's been caught, red-handed, in what can only be called a LIE.

No one, of course, needs to take an hour to type a link, for it's a LINK, that you may simply click to be shown the proof of AK's LIE.

As for "round one" and "not over," hee! AK should pray that he doesn't tangle with me again. I'm right, he's wrong, and his schoolboy bravado doesn't change the FACTS.

vox

(Edited by vox at 2:38 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

Michael De Panama

13th August 2002, 00:17

Pretending that this is what Vox did ask, what exactly would be the significance, aside from disproving Vox, in displaying that Capitalist Imperial has gotten a few compliments in the past?

What exactly is the point? Hell, I've said "you're right" a few times to "lenin" and Mazdak. That doesn't mean anything.

This looks like you're making a big fuss about nothing.

marxistdisciple

13th August 2002, 00:37

lol the lefties and righties fight while the world is falling to pieces :) Children, children :)

American Kid

13th August 2002, 04:52

"Save face"? What is this a Kurosawa film?

I'm kind of bummed out by vox's fanatical partisanship, as should even those on his quote unquote "side". Again, these are war words vox.

However, it's just blowhard histrionics.

That's a word you can ask your dad to help you look up in the dictionary, Mikey D. There's no "pretending" what vox asked, because...............uh, he asked it. Period. And he got an answer. I provided three substantial posts that CI has made, frosted with compliments from the enemy, lending a bit of integrity to them. This isn't a big fuss over nothing, little boy, and I wasn't the one who started it.

Interesting comrade to choose as someone to back also, Mikey, as you know as well as anything that the second he detects the tiniest morsel of dissension in anything you write in response to anything he's posted, he'll turn and stab you in the back with the same condescending patronization he does everyone else here.

vox reminds me of Tom Courtney in "Doctor Shivago". The reckless young revolutionary, full of himself and his know-it-all ideals. In the end though, he ends up irreperably scarred (emotionally and physically) as a result of these ruthless convictions. His stubborn fanaticism having materialed itself from the (rotten) inside out, as a reflection of his ugly, resentful, biased core.

anyway, the point is, your one-note Taliban-esque fanaticism is a bore. I think you're just angry and resentful. You probably think of yourself as a freedom-fighter with a big heart. You're not. You're an arrogant prick with no communication skills and the cadence of a copier machine. I don't know. Fight your war.

My point's been made.

-AK

(Edited by American Kid at 4:54 am on Aug. 13, 2002)

vox

15th August 2002, 01:23

"Interesting comrade to choose as someone to back also, Mikey, as you know as well as anything that the second he detects the tiniest morsel of dissension in anything you write in response to anything he's posted, he'll turn and stab you in the back with the same condescending patronization he does everyone else here."

I have no fear that Michael would understand any disagreement I had with him as just that, a disagreement. Unlike the right-wing, the Left does not need to walk in lockstep (goose-step?) We call it independent thinking. It's a good thing.

vox

Michael De Panama

15th August 2002, 03:34

American Kid, first off, you completely missed the point of my post and decided to deviate from my initial question which was "What exactly would be the significance, aside from disproving Vox simply for the sake of disproving Vox, in displaying that Capitalist Imperial has gotten a few compliments in the past?"

A few compliments does not give anybody's presence more worth. If you really wanted to show that CI is a valuable member, show us how he makes himself valuable. Although I think Stormin Norman serves less of a purpose on this site.

I've not seen Vox stab anyone in the back. I don't know what kind of power Vox holds that he could do anything in a disagreement but disagree, but maybe I'm just not looking hard enough. In the conflict with Peaccenicked, Vox gave his argument, and Peaccenicked gave his. So no I don't know as well as you do about this power that Vox will one day use against me if I give into his evil forces.

But anyway, I don't have any disagreements with Vox's political stance in any way. I totally agree with him about democratic centralism. I obviously agree with him about capitalism. I think the only thing I really disagree with Vox about is that I think "Storming Moron" is something that must definitely stay, if not to be replaced by something more derogatory.

Feel free to stab away about it, Vox.

American Kid

15th August 2002, 03:43

Get ready, young Michael, as I can hear vox sharpening the knives.........

you've disagreed with him...................foolish boy

-AK

vox

15th August 2002, 03:47

"Feel free to stab away about it, Vox."

Michael, you must be a running dog capitalist PIG!!!

How DARE you disagree with all that is ME!!!

LOL!

You have to wonder about these folks sometimes, don't you?

Hell, I'm just someone posting on a message board. If I disagree with someone, I'll tell him, and I expect the same in return. I'm not sure exactly what AK is on about, to tell you the truth. I mentioned once before that right-wingers really seem to overestimate my "power," which I don't even think exists.

Anyway, good to see you here, Michael. Keep up the good fight.

vox

American Kid

15th August 2002, 03:51

If Mikey was a "running dog capitalist pig", that's exactly what you would be saying, vox.

You're right, this is a BB, none of us have any "power". However, it is wholly within our reach to be dicks, which you excel at, vox.

en guarde
-AK

vox

15th August 2002, 03:58

En guarde? Hee! Hardly, AK.

You wrote, "Interesting comrade to choose as someone to back also, Mikey, as you know as well as anything that the second he detects the tiniest morsel of dissension in anything you write in response to anything he's posted, he'll turn and stab you in the back with the same condescending patronization he does everyone else here."

Michael wrote, "I've not seen Vox stab anyone in the back."

That's en guarde?

Only in a right-winger's deluded world.

Fact is, AK, you're the one that is constantly calling names, for you've nothing, NOTHING, to back up your arguments.

This is like playing chess with an eight year old.

vox

Michael De Panama

15th August 2002, 04:05

That's three posts you've made, AK, without answering my question. I'll just assume you agree with me that presenting some compliments the cappie received is completely irrelevant to why the cappie has any worth on here, and you acknowledge that your argument has no significance aside from a mere attempt to disprove Vox for the sake of disproving Vox. I'll assume you realize that this is a big fuss over nothing.

vox

15th August 2002, 04:07

Michael,

Just for the record, I don't even think he answered my original question, which I've already cited in this thread.

As you said, "[p]retending that this is what Vox did ask..."

vox

American Kid

15th August 2002, 04:13

BOTH OF YOU! I'M IMing PUNKRAWKER 677, WHEN I'M DONE, EXPECT TO GET YOUR FUCKING ASSES HANDED TO YOU.

-AK

(Actually, Mikey, you're okay.....................)

Michael De Panama

15th August 2002, 04:19

Four posts without answering the question.

And now what does this mean? Is this your secret weapon you've been hiding until things got too tough for you or something? How am I immune to it?

Man, this is getting exciting kind of.

American Kid

15th August 2002, 04:26

Okay, lucky for you guys he seems to be "pre-disposed", so, here's your......uh, answers:

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey. Indeed, this is A FUCKING LOT OF FUSS about nothing. But it doesn't make it any less true that CI recieving compliments from the enemy is RELEVANT. Does he deserve a medal? No. Does that mean he "won"? Negative. But it's interesting, and shows that, contrary to vox's all-knowing, all-seeing omni-potent beliefs, some people do have "use" for him.

vox, I DID answer your question you dick. Yes, I'll call you names. What are you going to do, tell Malte on me? (again). Relax. You call names just as much I do.

-Fuck you

vox

15th August 2002, 04:34

AK,

I'm still waiting for proof that he's bright, which is what I asked for and I've shown with quotes, baby.

I answered your original post, since then you've simply called me names and said "fuck you."

That, it seems, is the height of your ability.

You're truly dismissed now, little one. The grown ups are talking.

vox

American Kid

15th August 2002, 04:41

*grins*

vox, if CI got on his knees below your console and blew you, you wouldn't see him as anything more than shit.

You're asking me to do the impossible.Why are you asking me to provide "proof" for something you know (in your mind) there isn't any of? Seriously? You've read probably about as much of his stuff as I have. What's the point?

You're leading me on a goose-chase, vox. I don't know why. Is it that amusing? Maybe Mikey should be asking YOU the questions concerning this "big fuss".....

-the 23 year old K

vox

15th August 2002, 05:10

AK,

YOU are the one who offered and accepted. Don't blame your own idiocy one me, okay?

I thought that "personal responsibility" was a big issue with you wingnuts. I guess that only applies when you're not involved.

vox

Michael De Panama

15th August 2002, 05:11

Again, it's not important to me or probably anybody else to hear THAT someone has a use. Explain WHY he has a use. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was what Vox was asking in the first place.

You seem to realize the impossibility of proving CI to be "bright". You seem to realize that this is a wild goose chase. So why do you even bother? Especially nowdays, Capitalist Imperial does nothing but give senseless insults to the left without providing any real argument. If you disagree with me about this, go on this "wild goose chase".

American Kid

15th August 2002, 06:13

Because I was tasked to.

vox

15th August 2002, 06:19

That's some response, AK.

Again, blame it on someone else. Not becasue you volunteered to. Not because you agreed.

Nope. Just because you were "tasked."

Hee!

How pathetic can AK get?

vox

Capitalist Imperial

15th August 2002, 15:31

Its good to know that Vox and MDP are the judges of what is "bright".

What if I was to judge what is "bright in this forum? Then I would say, save for the rightists, that usually I can't find my way around the fucking room because there is absolutely no brightness here at all.

So there

and MDP, i don't remember you discussing facts and holding back insults, either, so how can you accuse me of such action and asssume you are beyond reproach?

Michael De Panama

15th August 2002, 23:40

Most of my arguments during the time you've been on this board have been directed towards other leftists, but to deny that I have given substantial arguments to you cappies would be absolutely silly. I don't just go around making threads saying "Fuck the opposition" in as many ways possible to say it.

The main difference I've seen between the way a rightwinger argues and the way leftists argue is that rightwingers argue to win and make themselves feel better, and leftists argue to learn or teach or strengthen their own arguments. Naturally, this is due to the fact that the right are destructive and the left are productive.

But I would at least appreciate you cappies making better use of your time and mine than making pointless threads like this crap:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=820 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=820)

If you are here to debate, and maybe learn another perspective, then I have absolutely no problem with this. If you are here simply to be an annoyance, you have no worth here.

Mazdak

16th August 2002, 03:32

THis is one of the funniest threads on Socialism vs. capitalism. AK, Keep up the good work.

American Kid

16th August 2002, 05:08

Thank you.

Capitalist Imperial

16th August 2002, 05:39

Quote: from Michael De Panama on 11:40 pm on Aug. 15, 2002
Most of my arguments during the time you've been on this board have been directed towards other leftists, but to deny that I have given substantial arguments to you cappies would be absolutely silly. I don't just go around making threads saying "Fuck the opposition" in as many ways possible to say it.

The main difference I've seen between the way a rightwinger argues and the way leftists argue is that rightwingers argue to win and make themselves feel better, and leftists argue to learn or teach or strengthen their own arguments. Naturally, this is due to the fact that the right are destructive and the left are productive.

But I would at least appreciate you cappies making better use of your time and mine than making pointless threads like this crap:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...um=22&topic=820 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=820)

If you are here to debate, and maybe learn another perspective, then I have absolutely no problem with this. If you are here simply to be an annoyance, you have no worth here.

"Most of my arguments during the time you've been on this board have been directed towards other leftists, but to deny that I have given substantial arguments to you cappies would be absolutely silly. I don't just go around making threads saying "Fuck the opposition" in as many ways possible to say it."

Ditto (except exchange "cappies" with "leftists", "commies", "pinkos", "hippies", "reds", or any other title for the unfortunate misguided)

"The main difference I've seen between the way a rightwinger argues and the way leftists argue is that rightwingers argue to win and make themselves feel better, and leftists argue to learn or teach or strengthen their own arguments. Naturally, this is due to the fact that the right are destructive and the left are productive."

Oh, yeah, very productive compared to capitalists, ummm- hmmm.

Name me 3 revolutionay communist inventions. Just 3, thats all I ask.

"But I would at least appreciate you cappies making better use of your time and mine than making pointless threads like this crap:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...topic=820" (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=820")

I assess that post as legitimate and highly relevant, considering that there are individuals here discussing "whether or not it would be OK" to assasinate Bush. I dont have the link to the thread, but I know you leftists remember.

"If you are here to debate, and maybe learn another perspective, then I have absolutely no problem with this. If you are here simply to be an annoyance, you have no worth here."

I know the other perspective, that would be the reason I debate here, dumnass.

And I also know how to be an annoyance. I learned at the School of the Americas

16th August 2002, 05:46

School of the Americas? The one that trains latin americans to implement US policy in latin america? I believe they have changed their name btw.

Anyway, this whole thread is retarded. I mean, this is a FUCKING msg. board. We only know each other via the internet. Of course we don't know how "bright" each other are.

Vox, that was ridiculous task and hope you meant it to be rhetorical.

AK, that was stupid of you to take Vox's ridiculous task.

This whole thread is stupid, yet entertaining somehow. I don't believe that anyone here has ever lost an argument (Hey AK, why dont ya go look for a time when someone lost an argument).

j

American Kid

18th August 2002, 03:12

I agree, I regret the whole thing.

It was fun, though. Wasn't it?

........maybe not.

-AK

Felicia

20th August 2002, 00:09

I do believe I was trying to be sarcastic in that quote AK. CI was expressing his concerns over children’s safety and what I meant by that post was "oh, I didn't realize you cared about anyone but yourself." Perhaps that is what I should have said, perhaps not. Either way, I think it's a bit late in this thread for me to be posting this now anyway. Btw I would appreciate a heads up before you use me as some sort of 'tool' [for lack of a better word] Ok AK? Aside from that I've actually given you a serious compliment before, lol, but it was well deserved :)