Patriot Registration

[RedCeltic]

ATTENTION CITIZENS:
As part of the Bush Administration's ongoing efforts to obliterate all traces of terrorism in the United States, the Department of Justice has commenced registration* of each and every American Patriot. By registering all non-terrorists within our borders, it is our intention to make use of the process of elimination to identify the evil ones who walk among us. If you are a non-terrorist (American Patriot), your participation is required. Please register below.
- John Ashcroft
United States Attorney General

http://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/patr...triot/index.asp (http://www.whitehouse.org/initiatives/patriot/index.asp)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Watch out, RC, I think "Wiccans" may qualify as terrorsists, LOL.

Idiot.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 7:06 pm on Aug. 11, 2002
Idiot.

yes, you are.

[vox]

Aww, Red Celtic, I think CI was just mad because you got him all excited and then he realized it's a spoof site and he had to change his underwear for nuthin'.

vox

(Edited by vox at 10:24 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from vox on 3:23 am on Aug. 12, 2002
Aww, Red Celtic, I think CI was just mad because you got him all excited and then he realized it's a spoof site and he had to change his underwear for nuthin'.

vox

(Edited by vox at 10:24 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)


As much as you'd like to belive that, Vox, I did not go the the site. I could see by the claims in the preamblre that it was obvioulsy some type of joke.

Besides, I thought it may have been a trap to lure me into some type of on-line white magic seance, where RC and his wiccan ilk may have forced me to acknowledge the omnipotence of Vulva, the wuss-boy God.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 9:30 pm on Aug. 11, 2002

Quote: from vox on 3:23 am on Aug. 12, 2002
Aww, Red Celtic, I think CI was just mad because you got him all excited and then he realized it's a spoof site and he had to change his underwear for nuthin'.

vox

(Edited by vox at 10:24 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)


As much as you'd like to belive that, Vox, I did not go the the site. I could see by the claims in the preamblre that it was obvioulsy some type of joke.

Besides, I thought it may have been a trap to lure me into some type of on-line white magic seance, where RC and his wiccan ilk may have forced me to acknowledge the omnipotence of Vulva, the wuss-boy God.

lmao I could give you a Wiccan link if that's what you wanted.. :P

http://www.cog.org

(Edited by RedCeltic at 9:40 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)

[vox]

wuss-boy God?

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Is that like turning the other cheek? Was Jesus a wuss-boy, too?

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from vox on 3:50 am on Aug. 12, 2002
wuss-boy God?

What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Is that like turning the other cheek? Was Jesus a wuss-boy, too?

vox

No, he was just some carpenter in ancient times that either found a better way to make $$$ (scamming -people under the pretense of deifying himself) or just suffred a grand delusion of granduer, but was convincing enough to use it to start one of history's greatest cults.

[vox]

But why isn't he a "wuss?"

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Dude, it was a joke, believe me, wiccans and christians are the same to me.

[RedCeltic]

Dude, it was a joke, believe me, wiccans and christians are the same to me.

We aren't the same fuckin' thing CI.. Xtians believe in a little thing called "Salvation"

I have no idea how this got into a topic about Wicca, but CI... Thor could kick Jesus' ass any day of the week.



(Edited by RedCeltic at 11:02 pm on Aug. 11, 2002)

[Stormin Norman]

Wiccan bashing! I think that is something we can all enjoy. What a joke! Hah!

[vox]

"What a joke!"

Why is it a joke? Or are you like CI, and believe all religion to be a joke?

vox

[RedCeltic]

Wiccan bashing! I think that is something we can all enjoy.

Yes yes, fun for the whole family, why not bring the wife and kids, you can roast yourself a few marshmallows while you burn the heretic.

[Stormin Norman]

Smurfberry mysticism. That is why this is funny to me.

[vox]

"Smurfberry mysticism. That is why this is funny to me."

This is as profound as the right-wing gets, folks.

vox

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from vox on 11:06 pm on Aug. 11, 2002
"What a joke!"

Why is it a joke? Or are you like CI, and believe all religion to be a joke?


Actually, that's fine with me that he thinks it's a joke. At least he's not damning me to hell. lol...

However I would like to know how it has surfaced as an attack against me in an thread I started, which was meant to be a joke.

BTW:.. .I believe CI knows even less about Gerald Gardner than he does Karl Marx.

[RedCeltic]

"Smurfberry mysticism. That is why this is funny to me."

Do you even know what Wicca is? You may have met a few "Light and air" ... "Fairy" witches.... however most don't know the first thing about the craft.

[vox]

"BTW:.. .I believe CI knows even less about Gerald Gardner than he does Karl Marx."

Hee! You might be right, but I'm wondering if it's even possible. Though SN is showing pretty clearly that he has absolutely no idea what he's arguing against.

I think they could appreciate the profit motive of the Frosts, but I wonder what they'd make of the Farrars.

vox

[RedCeltic]

I think they could appreciate the profit motive of the Frosts, but I wonder what they'd make of the Farrars.

I would very much like to see CI and SN paging through Janet and Stewart Farrar's books. I'm sure that would be a welcome break for them from all that in depth study of Das Capital they have been doing.... lol...

[RedCeltic]

Oh, BTW: in case you think Wiccans/Pagans are all leftist, think again. I know of a Druid who (while clearly more educated) is farther right than CI.

[vox]

"I'm sure that would be a welcome break for them from all that in depth study of Das Capital they have been doing."

That's probably the saddest (in the pathetic sense) about all of those. They really don't know what they're arguing against. Did you see the post where I was accused of playing with language when I talked about the Marxist idea of primitive communism? I mean, they just really don't know!

It's pathetic on too many levels.

Anyway, talking pagan is more fun than talking politics. I say stay away from DJ Conway and go toward (early) Marian Green, especially A Witch Alone. But that's just my personal opinion.

(By the way, for general public knowledge, I'm not a pagan, but I've read about paganism. And Christianity. And Hinduism. And Taoism. And Buddhism. I read too much.)

vox

[Stormin Norman]

"I would very much like to see CI and SN paging through Janet and Stewart Farrar's books. I'm sure that would be a welcome break for them from all that in depth study of Das Capital they have been doing.... lol... "

No Red Celtic. I choose to study subjects of value, ideas that will increase my knowledge of the world. Therefore you will not see me perusing the kind of book that will distort my view and make me less aware of the nature of reality. I leave that sort of activity to the witless. Have fun degrading you mind, but don't expect me to follow you like some lemur.

[RedCeltic]

No Red Celtic. I choose to study subjects of value, ideas that will increase my knowledge of the world. Therefore you will not see me perusing the kind of book that will distort my view and make me less aware of the nature of reality. I leave that sort of activity to the witless. Have fun degrading you mind, but don't expect me to follow you like some lemur.

I respect your views on religion. They are yours, and therefore your beliefs are correct. However, I am entitled to my beliefs, so please stop kicking at me.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 12:16 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[Stormin Norman]

Fair enough. You are right. If you take your religion seriously, I respect that. Accept my apology.

[vox]

"Therefore you will not see me perusing the kind of book that will distort my view and make me less aware of the nature of reality."

Does that line make anyone else say "HUH?"

A book can do that to you, SN? Damn. I dunno, folks. I've read a fair amount, but I was never really afraid that a book could make me "distort my view and make me less aware of the nature of reality."

Heck, I've read things by capitalists. Does that mean I'm a right-winger?

Damn, these right-wingers are just too silly sometimes.

vox

[RedCeltic]

There's no need to apologies, I know it was only in jest.

It's funny really because when I first started training as a Wiccan in 1987, it's doubtful you would have ever heard about it, or met one.

However today there are so many cheaply written books about it, that seemingly anyone can call themselves a Wiccan, without knowing much about it, and without going through the strict training and initiation that I went through.

So, you haven’t said anything I haven't heard before, or will crush me in any way... I do realize you’re not seriously devoted to religion, so therefore I'm not too concerned. It's the Christian Fundamentalists that have the power to influence herds of Bible thumpers and legislation at will that I'm more worried about.

[RedCeltic]

Heck, I've read things by capitalists. Does that mean I'm a right-winger?

Damn, these right-wingers are just too silly sometimes.

I've read the Bible cover to cover and continue to refrence it... yet I'm anything but a Christian... lol

[Moskitto]

Hmmm Patriot Registration ----> Wicca, hmmm, interesting topic jump.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 5:44 am on Aug. 12, 2002
Oh, BTW: in case you think Wiccans/Pagans are all leftist, think again. I know of a Druid who (while clearly more educated) is farther right than CI.





LOL, LOL, LMAO, ROFL, this guy is supposedly "more educated" than me (which i'm confident he's not), but he is a "druid"? LOL, give me a fucking break, am I the only one who understands the humor in this comment? How many "hit points" does he have? Is he "chaotic evil"? LOL, geez.


And your right, of course I haven't read up on wiccan philosophy. I haven't read up on dungeons and dragons either, dork.

Did you cream your pants when you saw Lord of the Rings at the theater?

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 6:38 am on Aug. 12, 2002
There's no need to apologies, I know it was only in jest.

It's funny really because when I first started training as a Wiccan in 1987, it's doubtful you would have ever heard about it, or met one.

However today there are so many cheaply written books about it, that seemingly anyone can call themselves a Wiccan, without knowing much about it, and without going through the strict training and initiation that I went through.

So, you haven’t said anything I haven't heard before, or will crush me in any way... I do realize you’re not seriously devoted to religion, so therefore I'm not too concerned. It's the Christian Fundamentalists that have the power to influence herds of Bible thumpers and legislation at will that I'm more worried about.



"strict training and iniation"

...ok, thats too easy

anyway, SN, I agree with you, I prefer to dedicate my time to studying resources rooted in reality. I do read fiction, but I understand it is just that.

[Moskitto]

oh no no CI. If he's a Druid has has to be True Neutral, it's all part of the game rules ;)

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Moskitto on 10:53 am on Aug. 12, 2002
oh no no CI. If he's a Druid has has to be True Neutral, it's all part of the game rules ;)

I'm a Wiccan, not a druid. Druidry, Shamanism, Asatru, etc... are all other Pagan relgions.

CI: FUCK YOU. I didn't start bashing on your religious beliefs, so I don't know why your bashing on mine.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 11:01 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[Moskitto]

actually that was aimed at CI who asked if he was Chaotic Evil in a Dungeons and Dragons Context.

[RedCeltic]

Oh, sorry I went right to the last page so I missed the whole D&D bull shit that CI posted.

No CI: Wicca is not based on a role playing game, and no I haven't seen the movie Lord of the Rings.

I wasn't saying that Wiccans are any better than any other person. I was saying that we are normal functioning members of society and deserve the right to freely practice our religion.

You know, you really missed a perfect opportunity to spout off how us leftists complain about America, yet Wiccans enjoy a great deal of religious freedoms in America. That is after all what other Wiccans remind me when I spout off my radical political views.

It's quite a shame that rather than using simple logical reasoning, you decide to bash me and one of the fastest growing religions in America. Hence further confirming that you’re merely out to pound on anyone who does not agree with your demoralized and desensitized view of the world.

You may be completely and utterly bound to the mundane world, with no hope of connecting to the spiritual world, nor finding your spiritual self. However, that does not give you the right to attack me for my belief in the spiritual and worship of deity.





(Edited by RedCeltic at 11:59 am on Aug. 12, 2002)

[marxistdisciple]

Paganism is a free and open religion without the boundaries of christianity. I see, (as usual) the righties are all about preaching freedom but make little effort to actually learn about other people's beliefs. How can you seriously argue against communism, or take the piss out of paganism, when you know fuck all about it?

It just shows how people who are open to reading different things (I have read many a right wing opinion, and much leftie stuff too, it gives you a balanced set of facts and opinions to make judgements on, moron.) If you are not willing to read anything which is remotely out of your current scope of opinion you are as closed minded as every other right winger I have met. In fact, right wing politics is about blatent, ignorant stupidity and arrogance without care for reason, from what I can tell from your posts. You burble on about economics all the time and simultaneously try to put down people's constructive ideas, and now religion too. It's not funny except to some infetisimal brain cell some where in your warped upper cortex.

By the way Redceltic, that site had me cracked up for hours last night :) You should take a look Ci, it's hella funny :)

[RedCeltic]

By the way Redceltic, that site had me cracked up for hours last night You should take a look Ci, it's hella funny

Wow!! Someone who looked at the website!! I just don't know what to say!! lol

Anyway, if you ever had to deal with a bullie, you would know that you need to corner them and let them know that you mean busness.

I let CI know how I feel and he respects that. It's all I ask, and, that's all I would ask of anyone.

[Capitalist Imperial]

OK,OK, enough. I was just joking around and it got out of hand. I apologize. I respect all beief systems even if I don't agree with them.

For the record I don't really think RC is an idiot or dork, I was just joshing around.

But, I maintain my "fuck the left" stance , LOL, LOL

[RedCeltic]

You know what's funny about reading history? The people who write it where hardly ever there! I mean... have you read some of the things that the founding fathers did? Ben Franklin for example was a bit odd even for today...

Anyway, my point is that America never was founded as a Christian nation. John Adams actually said that in the treaty of trippolie.

Considering that the US never was founded as a Christian nation... that means that other religions have the right to express themselves in the US.... Provided however... that they don't deal in illegal practices.

I'm going to take this oppertunity however to ask a few questions of my own..

I mean... the US is the first nation on earth to allow religious freedom. However.. why does religious freedom extend to the freedom to knock on your door on a saturday morning and ask you if you have found Jesus yet...

I often feel kind of sorry for athiests... they normally are like my brother who avoids talk about religion. "Ken, are you a Catholic?"... Ken:.. (drops a potato chip or...pen, or something....) " Uh, yea well... my wife's raising the kids that way so I suppose so..."...

Heck, even the beginer Jehovah Witness would eat him alive!

I Answer the door and it's a diffrent story, " DING DONG".. (ME): Hello...
(THem): We would like to talk to you about the kingdom of heaven...
(Me): I'm sorry...I'm a Witch, so... I'm one of the other people..

(Read the creation story in the Bible to see my point.. it's fairly obvious that the world was made by many gods but than only one god made Adam and Eve.