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3A CCCP
9th May 2008, 10:58
MARSHAL STALIN'S VICTORY ADDRESS
May 9, 1945
Information Bulletin, Embassy of the U.S.S.R.

Comrades! Compatriots, men and women! The Great Day of Victory over Germany has come. Fascist Germany, forced to her knees by the Red Army and the troops of our Allies, has acknowledged her defeat and declared unconditional surrender.

On May 7, the preliminary protocol of surrender was signed in the city of Rheims. On May 8, representatives of the German High Command, in the presence of representatives of the Supreme Command of the Allied troops and of the Supreme Command of the Soviet troops, signed in Berlin the final act of surrender, the execution of which began at twenty-four hours, May 8.

Being aware of the wolfish habits of the German ringleaders, who regard treaties and agreements as an empty scrap of paper, we had no reason to believe their words. Since this morning, in pursuance of the act of surrender, German troops in mass have begun to lay down arms and surrender to our troops.

This is no longer an empty scrap of paper. This is the real surrender of Germany's armed forces.

True, one group of German troops in the area of Czechoslovakia is still evading surrender. But I hope the Red Army will be able to bring it to its senses.

Now we can note with full satisfaction that the historical day of the final rout of Germany, the Day of the Great Victory of our people over German imperialism, has come. The great sacrifices we have made in the name of freedom and our defense of our Motherland, the incalculable privations and sufferings experienced by our people in the course of the war, the strained work in the rear and at the front-placed on the altar of the Motherland-have not been in vain and have been crowned by complete victory over the enemy.

The age long struggle of the Slav peoples for their existence and their independence has ended in victory over the German invaders and the German tyranny. Henceforth, the great banner of freedom of nations and peace among nations will fly over Europe.

Three years ago Hitler publicly stated that his aims included the dismemberment of the Soviet Union and the wresting of the Caucasus, the Ukraine, Byelorussia, the Baltic and other regions from it. He declared bluntly: "We will destroy Russia, so that she will never be able to rise again." This happened three years ago. However, Hitler's crazy ideas were not fated to succeed. The course of the war scattered them to the winds. In actual fact, something directly opposite to the Hitlerites' ravings has taken place. Germany has been utterly defeated. The German troops are surrendering. The Soviet Union is celebrating victory, although it does not intend to dismember or destroy Germany.

Comrades! The Great Patriotic War has ended in our complete victory. The period of the war in Europe is over. The period of peaceful development has begun.

I congratulate you upon the victory, my dear compatriots, men and women!

Glory to our heroic Red Army which upheld the independence of our Motherland and won victory over the enemy!

Glory to our great people-the victor people!
Eternal glory to the heroes who fell in the battles against the enemy and gave their lives for the freedom and happiness of our people.

The Feral Underclass
9th May 2008, 11:29
Stalin's victory, the workers destruction.

Who lets these people on this site!

I say "boooo"

3A CCCP
9th May 2008, 13:13
Stalin's victory, the workers destruction.
Who lets these people on this site!
I say "boooo"

Go crawl back under your rock, scumbag! Do all the armchair philosophizing you want, but don't mess with our Victory Day holiday!

Смерть врагам нашей Родины!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail

Guerrilla22
9th May 2008, 13:48
Happy victory day comrade, death to the traitors!

Die Neue Zeit
9th May 2008, 13:55
TAT, that was just classless. :(

On the other hand, the Victory Parade today SUCKED! [Because of that idiotic chapel right beside the State Historical Museum blocking vehicular access to Red Square, only two vehicles side by side rolled into the square.]

ArabRASH
9th May 2008, 14:11
Although i'm not a great fan of Stalin's, no one can deny how great his victory over Nazi Germany was. So cheers comrades! Until Victory Always!

Redmau5
9th May 2008, 18:39
This should really be in History.

Axel1917
9th May 2008, 18:48
This should really be in History.

Moved to history.

3A CCCP
10th May 2008, 13:07
[quote=Jacob Richter;1141256]TAT, that was just classless. :(

Comrade:

The remark was not meant to have class or be "witty." It was meant to convey that Soviet people, like myself, will not put up with someone trash talking our Victory Day - whether a Commie Club Moderator or Jesus H. Christ!

My family would be alot bigger today if it wasn't for the Nazi bastards that killed more than half of them in Slootsk, Minsk, and Grodno. And, I would have no family today if it wasn't for the Red Army liberators and our leaders, especially comrade Stalin and Marshal Zhukov!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail

Forward Union
10th May 2008, 13:46
Notice that stalin makes no mention of "workers" "communism" or "socialism" in his speech...

Die Neue Zeit
10th May 2008, 14:47
TAT, that was just classless. :(

Comrade:

The remark was not meant to have class or be "witty." It was meant to convey that Soviet people, like myself, will not put up with someone trash talking our Victory Day - whether a Commie Club Moderator or Jesus H. Christ!

My family would be alot bigger today if it wasn't for the Nazi bastards that killed more than half of them in Slootsk, Minsk, and Grodno. And, I would have no family today if it wasn't for the Red Army liberators and our leaders, especially comrade Stalin and Marshal Zhukov!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail

I was responding to The Anarchist Tension's classless remark, not to your valid Victory remark.

3A CCCP
10th May 2008, 22:03
I was responding to The Anarchist Tension's classless remark, not to your valid Victory remark.

Comrade:

Please accept my apologies.

You didn't include a quote of the post you were responding to and since my posts have been the object of persistent attack by various pseudo-Communists on this forum, I made an assumption that was incorrect. (I didn't recognize that you were addressing "TAT.") I am sorry for the gruff reply.

Long live our Victory - the Soviet Victory!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail

Invader Zim
10th May 2008, 22:45
Notice that stalin makes no mention of "workers" "communism" or "socialism" in his speech...

I quite agree. I also think it is utterly pittiful that "communists" laud 'Comrade Stalin and Marshal Zhukov' as 'liberators' when quite clearly it was the millions of troops on multiple fronts, with millions of people woking in their home countries in total-war economies that should be lauded.

Wanted Man
10th May 2008, 23:05
Notice that stalin makes no mention of "workers" "communism" or "socialism" in his speech...
That's not very surprising. Most of his wartime speeches were about the war effort. Not exactly the right subject for pontifications about marxist theory... Anyway, his 1 May speech did explicitly mention the celebration of "the international festival of the working people". Quite obviously, it's a matter of separation, rather than some sort of callous disregard for the workers, socialism and communism.

But hey, don't take my word for it. Take a big cup of coffee and read the man's war speeches yourself: http://marx2mao.com/Stalin/GPW46.html

Dean
11th May 2008, 00:11
Stalin's victory, the workers destruction.

Who lets these people on this site!

I say "boooo"

Indeed. I can't see it as leftist, revolutionary or even marxist to think of Stalin as a liberator. He was a dangerous tyrant, and such tyranny should always be avoided.

Andres Marcos
11th May 2008, 00:20
Indeed. I can't see it as leftist, revolutionary or even marxist to think of Stalin as a liberator. He was a dangerous tyrant, and such tyranny should always be avoided.
So what are ARML then? Red Fascists?! :laugh::laugh:

Eastside Revolt
11th May 2008, 00:28
[quote=Jacob Richter;1141256]TAT, that was just classless. :(

Comrade:

The remark was not meant to have class or be "witty." It was meant to convey that Soviet people, like myself, will not put up with someone trash talking our Victory Day - whether a Commie Club Moderator or Jesus H. Christ!

My family would be alot bigger today if it wasn't for the Nazi bastards that killed more than half of them in Slootsk, Minsk, and Grodno. And, I would have no family today if it wasn't for the Red Army liberators and our leaders, especially comrade Stalin and Marshal Zhukov!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail


Just a brief clarification if I'm reading TAT right.

It would definitely be a day to cheer for the soviet people that were able to stop Nazi occupation.

For people of the west (namely GB, Canada, and the USA), the entire scenario including the resistance to Nazism itself was a tragedy. Every worker movement within these nations simultaneosly ground to a halt in favor of the many Stalinist communist parties that had such influence in these movements. In truth these movements never really were able to recover from the loss.

turquino
13th May 2008, 00:55
[quote=3A CCCP;1141951]


Just a brief clarification if I'm reading TAT right.

It would definitely be a day to cheer for the soviet people that were able to stop Nazi occupation.

For people of the west (namely GB, Canada, and the USA), the entire scenario including the resistance to Nazism itself was a tragedy. Every worker movement within these nations simultaneosly ground to a halt in favor of the many Stalinist communist parties that had such influence in these movements. In truth these movements never really were able to recover from the loss.
I agree completely. The Soviet and Chinese people's struggles against fascist aggression were heroic, but Moscow suppressed the revolutionary spirit of colonized peoples and oppressed nations, along with the wider global class struggle, in favour of making common cause with rulers and oppressors.

-turquino

BobKKKindle$
13th May 2008, 12:42
Why should Stalin be given credit for the victory of the Soviet people?

If Stalin had not adopted the position that the SPD were "social fascists" the KPD and the SPD would have been able to form an alliance, and thereby possibly prevent the NSDAP from coming to power. If Stalin had not chosen to purge a large section of the officer corps, despite the lack of evidence showing they were planning to attack him or in any way undermine his power, the German army may not have been able to make such advances into Soviet territory.

Yes, let us honor and thank the Soviet citizens who died, fighting against fascism. But Stalin? No.

Holden Caulfield
13th May 2008, 13:09
Why should Stalin be given credit for the victory of the Soviet people?


i was just about to add this,
England was at war with the Germans, do i respect Churchill the old rascist fart? no!

the sacrifices of the workers themselves, disregarding the reasons of the war and are what we should celebrate, not the leaders who brainwashed most of europe to fight an nationalist/imperialist war

Peacekeeper
13th May 2008, 18:33
Go crawl back under your rock, scumbag! Do all the armchair philosophizing you want, but don't mess with our Victory Day holiday!

Смерть врагам нашей Родины!

3A CCCP!
Mikhail

Happy (late) Victory Day, Comrade!