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Vlad tdf
8th May 2008, 16:22
Hello comrades i want to know if some music is restricted in a comunist country ???
In my country a lot of bands were restricted especialy rock bands in the comunism period !
I am asking you this because in my opinion music is preety important!

Thank's in advance

F9
8th May 2008, 16:32
There is a music forum comrade,in there fits better i think!;) I dont currently know any true communist country,however music NEVER should be banned any kind of it.

Fuserg9:star:

mykittyhasaboner
8th May 2008, 17:18
no, i highly doubt any music will be suppressed, unless its like nazi punk or stuff like that. so any rightist music, would probably be suppressed, if there was any such music in a communist society.

Post-Something
8th May 2008, 17:31
Weren't the Beatles banned in Russia for a while or something? And then they played that huge gig?

Red_or_Dead
8th May 2008, 22:32
Weren't the Beatles banned in Russia for a while or something? And then they played that huge gig?

Werent those the Rolling Stones? Or was that in Warsaw sometime in the 60s... I wacthed a show on this a while ago (it was hosted by that singer from Blondie if that rings a bell), and I remember a part about the Rolling Stones doing a gig in either Moscow or Warsaw (which one, I cant remember), but after that, western bands were presumably banned from the country for years. It was also said that rock n roll was banned in the USSR, but I dont know how reliable that info is.

In any case, in former socialist Yugoslavia music was pretty much left alone since the 60s, save occasional censoring of the lyrics. We had a punk scene since 1977, and western bands played regulary, tho Im guessing that the likes of Ian Stuart wouldnt be allowed to play here. Records from western bands were also for sale in record shops, all legal.

Thats one country covered, anyway. And I also remeber hearing that John Lennon has a monument in Havana, Cuba, so I guess that its not so bad over there either, at least as far as music is concerned.

But as far as a potential future communist society goes, I think that censorship of ANY kind is out of the question. After all, in a communist society, who gets to determine whats to be censored and what not, and, more important, who would enforce it?

Os Cangaceiros
8th May 2008, 22:51
Weren't the Beatles banned in Russia for a while or something? And then they played that huge gig?

After listening to McCartney's godawful "Back in the USSR", I wish that the KGB would've just shot him out off the stage with a thousand bullets.

Comrade Rage
8th May 2008, 23:33
I think Skrewdriver-type Nazi shit, or Toby Keith-type shit should definitely be banned for two reasons:

That stuff is just plain bad
Hateful, reactionary politics

communard resolution
10th May 2008, 12:36
no, i highly doubt any music will be suppressed, unless its like nazi punk or stuff like that. so any rightist music, would probably be suppressed, if there was any such music in a communist society.

Any rightist music? Oh dear, that would be quite a lot, unless you mean "nazi" rather than rightist. Most rock'n'roll has liberal capitalist (=right-wing) sentiments.

I don't think there would be a need to ban nazi punk type stuff in a Communist society, though. People would probably just laugh at it. I mean, do you think YOU need to be banned from listening to nazi punk music yourself?

communard resolution
10th May 2008, 12:48
In any case, in former socialist Yugoslavia music was pretty much left alone since the 60s, save occasional censoring of the lyrics. We had a punk scene since 1977, and western bands played regulary

Is it true you even had Yugoslavian punk bands playing on radio and state television? I'm a big fan of Paraf, Pekinska Patka, and Termiti btw, what do you think of these?

I agree with you: there would be no need for censorship as a Communist society wouldn't create the conditions that are the breeding ground for far-right sentiments to begin with. Maybe there will always be a few arseholes, but I think those few arseholes would be kept in check/laughed off by the majority and wouldn't pose a threat to anyone. Society would have no need for nazi punk bands and the absurd bullshit they preach. It simply wouldn't catch on.

I've heard a lot of nazi punk and RAC type music in my life, and it had no effect on me whatsoever. Why would I ban anyone else from being exposed to it?

Vlad tdf
10th May 2008, 13:04
Well Caligula Z you are so right but i didn't refere to nazi punk it is about a band Phoenix if you heard of it is Folk Metal they ran out of the country ! But also in my country the president was an idiot (Ceausescu)

communard resolution
10th May 2008, 13:18
Vlad,

I think in a genuine communist society Phoenix would be permitted to play as much folk-metal as their hearts desire. There would be no need to ban any music.

Mujer Libre
10th May 2008, 13:19
Moved to Music.

Red_or_Dead
10th May 2008, 22:27
Is it true you even had Yugoslavian punk bands playing on radio and state television? I'm a big fan of Paraf, Pekinska Patka, and Termiti btw, what do you think of these?


I guess they were. On the radio, at least. I wasnt around back then, but ill ask around.

Havent heard of Pekinska Patka, but Im a fan of Paraf, and I like Termiti as well. There were a lot more cool bands, and some are still around today. Paraf had a reunion only a short while ago, I think.


I've heard a lot of nazi punk and RAC type music in my life, and it had no effect on me whatsoever. Why would I ban anyone else from being exposed to it?

Yeah, and I sure as hell didnt become a communist from listening to leftist bands.

communard resolution
11th May 2008, 02:54
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Yeah, and I sure as hell didnt become a communist from listening to leftist bands.[/quote]

Haha! Me neither. When I was a really young teenager into Crass, Conflict, Oi Polloi, etc, I didn't really give a shit about the politics - it was more a matter of "being a hardcore punk". Later when I was sick of anarcho punk and got into garage rock, glam punk, and other completely apolitical music, I turned more and more left-wing for some reason. I guess it began to happen when I was exposed to some political texts (to my embarrassment, mostly on the internet) and started comparing them to my real-life experiences and observations. Nothing to do with music at all.

Red_or_Dead
11th May 2008, 15:29
Haha! Me neither. When I was a really young teenager into Crass, Conflict, Oi Polloi, etc, I didn't really give a shit about the politics - it was more a matter of "being a hardcore punk". Later when I was sick of anarcho punk and got into garage rock, glam punk, and other completely apolitical music, I turned more and more left-wing for some reason. I guess it began to happen when I was exposed to some political texts (to my embarrassment, mostly on the internet) and started comparing them to my real-life experiences and observations. Nothing to do with music at all.


Yes, it was pretty much the same with me. Even tho I must admit that the imagery played a role (but not further than simply getting my attention to it), its still the ideology itself that makes the difference, in my case, and the majority of others.

If the music was the thing that makes people follow a certain ideology, religion, or whatever, then I guess I would be a satanist, from all the Iron Maiden and Judas Priest that I listen to. On the other hand, a friend of mine who listens mainly to leftist punk would be a communist or an anarchist, when actually he is opposed to both.

Btw. I asked about YU. punk bands, and it seems that they did get some radio play back in the day, but none that I asked remebers seeing them on TV.