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new democracy
7th August 2002, 11:57
http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/eta.htm does it true?

Anonymous
7th August 2002, 15:48
I suport what ETA is fighting for, but i dont suport the way they are choosing to fight the Spanish Gov.!

Aleksander Nordby
12th December 2002, 15:40
The ETA has no other way to fight.

Pete
12th December 2002, 19:43
I didn't even know that movement existed. But if they have tried peacefull means then violence is the only way. It's just like with the FLQ, they sought to be free after the 1969-1970 crisis by fleeing to Cuba. It must be seen as a safe haven for militants world wide. I would not have supported the FLQ tho...not in violence atleast

oconner
12th December 2002, 20:11
I think Fidel is justified in supportingg them. ever since their political wing was banned by the government, ETA have had no other choice to illistrate their beliefs other than violence.

Panamarisen
13th December 2002, 19:30
As soon as Franco died and "democracy" started in Spain, ETA has been much more able to express itself and its struggle..., but they have chosen terrorism from the very beginning, meaning with it killing a lot of innocent civilians (children, women, elders, average workers) to get their goals. People like Subcomandante Marcos supports ETAīs struggles, but NOT their violent methods, as he has told them by letter recently, once again (you can read these kinds of letters by becoming a member at www.zapatistas.org/index.html ).
The Spanish Government, as right-winged as it is, unfortunatelly uses terrorism to counter-attack ETAīs(!!!).

HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

canikickit
13th December 2002, 20:43
The Spanish Government, as right-winged as it is, unfortunatelly uses terrorism to counter-attack ETAīs(!!!).




Yes, it's quite interesting, I was looking at books the other day. One was about how, since the beginning, the Spanish government has being using similar tactics to fight ETA, as ETA use themselves.

Pete
14th December 2002, 04:02
The hypocracy runs rampant. But how else can you combat that kind of thing without giving the provinces independance? (I am starting to support ETA more I learn about them)

Panamarisen
14th December 2002, 12:40
When we legitimate terrorism we illegitimate our very ideas and struggles.

A different story is starting a revolution, armed or not, to reach our goals, i.e., freedom for a country.


HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

Pete
15th December 2002, 03:42
Panamarisen, are you pro or anti ETA? I believe you confused me more on this topic

Exploited Class
15th December 2002, 13:05
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
-John F. Kennedy

Something to think about, do people become violent to force revolution or does the society or people in power make it so people must resort to violent revolutionary means?

People are always trying to move forward, make change and rarely is it the campus sit in rally, peaceful march or wonderful speech that change society. If a revolution in any way effects those in power directly then you can be 100% sure those forces are going to use any means to stop it from happening. From Unions to Government change, with Army soldiers or the Police the revolutionaries will be publicly berated in the Media and hated by the public.

Unfortunetly the ETA doesn't own CNN, CBS, NBC, New York Times or FOX NEWS (The spanish equivelence) to give thier side of the story truthfully or to even be heard at all.

Although we don't want to think of the side with all power using skull crushing tactics, choke tactics, rubber bullets, tear gas, raping and other dispectable tactics they do. They do sometimes beat a child, or beat a father or kill a mother and it isn't always in the news.

Panamarisen
15th December 2002, 15:20
exploitedclass, I agree with what you are saying, but I have to say that even if this right-winged Spanish government uses terrorist methods, thatīs not a reason for ETA doing it. ETA should and could do things in a much wiser way: itīs the only way average people would understand and even support their reasons.

CrazyPete, my opinion doesnīt really matters, although I can tell you I canīt support ETA as long as they behave like terrorists. When they put a bomb they know very well innocent civilians will be killed. Besides, they are extreme nationalists, and I just donīt believe in nationalisms (indeed, I think they are very dangerous). Most basque people do not agree with ETA, btw, and I know that outside Spain people believe ETAīs struggle is the struggle of most basque people.

At the same time, I personally support Palestinians, even regretting terrorist tactics, because they are living a very different situation, a much more difficult and vital one.


HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!

Reuben
15th December 2002, 15:26
I do not see any particular reason to either support or oppose Basque seperatism. As a marxist I see more necessary forms struggle than a separitist one. From what i know there is not a particularly great level of oppression of the basque people and certainly not enough to justify their threats to human life