Attitude towards fascism changed ?

[Coggeh]

Has peoples attitude towards fascism lately changed ? lately their have been alot of debates about free speech for racists and when arguing in my class i was the only one who believed in no platform for racists , 20 years ago the anti fascist movement was alot more broad amongst community activists and people but now it seems the new liberal idealist attitude among people of saying they should be allowed organize has set in and your labeled a fascist when you try argue against it .

How can people call themselves anti-racists when their happy as larry letting fascism dig its roots into our communities ?

[Holden Caulfield]

i say no platform in local levels and with their activities but if they rise to public debate i think even the newest user could rip their arguments to shits

[Coggeh]

i say no platform in local levels and with their activities but if they rise to public debate i think even the newest user could rip their arguments to shits

They don't use public debates as a way of arguing they just use them as a way of organizing , at the end of a debate if 5 out of 200 voted that the fascist won the debate , thats already a small organization if they choose to meet after .

[joe_the_red]

Of course the Capitalists don't care, because Fascism is the goal and final destination of Capitalism. There's nothing we can do about allowing them to have their "meetings" but we need to ridicule them, harass them, make them look stupid, and if they get any form of power, show these elitist scumbags that it's not safe to be a fascist. I understand there are certain arguments to be made against allowing them to even organise... such as that which Stalin said "We would not let the enemy have guns, why let them have ideas?"... but the problem is then you have to take away peoples' rights. If I could, I would start an anti-fascist group and schedule our meetings at the same time and place as theirs. Make sure to recruit some big, burly fellows for this group, as well. That way, if the fascists say anything in their "meeting" that is offensive, they will regret it. Cheers and good luck. -Joe

[Comrade Krell]

In many ways various propertied bourgeois ideologies like libertarianism or fascism are mutually self-supporting. As in the libertarian will say 'Well I don't agree with the racist but he should be able to freely say what he wants', this is a way that the bourgeois uses to divide-and-rule, they will have their racist wing say these racist things but have them so they don't trace back to the bourgeois political core. Racism, sexism, xenophobia etc are all used to divide worker's against each other and create illusions of damage, so they will blame 'lazy welfare bludgers' or 'immigrants stealing our jobs' rather than the bourgeois. Informal immigrant labor, as well as the unemployed, constitute a reserve pool of labor to exert economic pressure on organized formal labor.

I think Lenin said it best when referring to antisemitism:
'The landowners and capitalists tried to divert the hatred of the workers and peasants who were tortured by want against the Jews.'

I think that is a metaphor for the tactics of the whole bourgeois.