The Leftists Guide to Anti-Americanism

[Capitalist Imperial]

Greetings friends (and by friends I mean everyone but
Americans)! I have long been accused of being too
pro-American and in order to refute these scandalous
charges I've decided to write a "Guide to Anti-Americanism." If you've ever wanted to fit in at European Dinner Parties, Anti-globalism protests, or at a
Harvard faculty meeting this is an article you must read!

1) When in Doubt, Blame America

Since America is the root of all evil, you can be assured that every bad thing that happens in your life is the result of something America did. So for example, in the Winter Olympics when a French ice skating judge conspired with a Russian judge to cheat a pair of Canadian skaters out of a gold medal it made perfect sense that the Russians
blamed America. Even if America wasn't directly responsible for everything that happened, they deserve to be blamed because they're bad, bad, people!

2)Treat America like a Communist Dictatorship

All good Anti-Americans understand that the American
government is to blame for America's actions, not the
American people despite the fact that the American
people vote in the government. Furthermore, we understand that despite the fact that American newspapers, TV, and radio claim to be independent, the government secretly controls them all in order to convince stupid Americans to carry guns, vote for the death penalty, and to loathe berets.

3) You Should Visit America Once in Your Life

Now I know you're thinking "why would I want to visit America? There's nothing there but a bunch of fat, ignorant, hillbillies and cowboys amusing each other with fart jokes." True! But once you've been to America once you
can claim forever more to know all about it because you've actually been there!

4) Gratitude Smatitude

Some people feel pangs of guilt about hating America since Americans liberated their nation, brought Democracy to their country, have given them billions in aid, etc. Don't be a sucker. America probably only helped you so they could sell you more McDonald's hamburgers or so they could tear up your national landmarks to drill for oil. Don't be fooled!

5) That Flag Waving is so Gauche

Nothing could be more annoying than a bunch of flag waving Americanschanting USA, USA, USA. I mean have you ever
chanted France, France, France while eating escargot and caviar at a café? Of course not! What a bunch of barbarians!

6)Denying Anti-Americanism

It's very important that you deny being anti-American while ranting obsessively about how much you hate everything and everyone in America. This drives Americans crazy! If they press you to find something you like about America (Ha, ha! Yeah right) try to give them a left-handed compliment like
"American universities have many brilliant professors who seem to understand America's oppressive role in the world. I certainly admire them."

7) Empire America

It's very important to state the obvious fact that America is trying to create an empire much like Rome...no..better yet, like Ghengis Khahn did! That's why the Soviet Union had to invade so many countries, to stop American imperialism and hegemony! Of course a lot of people don't believe that but when the Canadians are made into slaves so they can build the "Bush pyramids" I think the world will wake up!

8) American Ignorance

American's are appallingly ignorant of other nations and worse yet, don't care! For example, ask an American who the Treasury Secretary of Spain is? When they say "No clue. What difference does it make?" Hit them with "There is no Treasury Secretary of Spain! It was a trick question and how can you not care you stupid American? What are you, too
busy waving your stupid flag to pay attention? You Americans are morons!" Make sure to say things like this on internet forums and chat rooms because American's tend to watch too many John Wayne movies and think being insulted may be a good reason to fight. Have I called them barbarians yet?

9) The Trojan Horse of American Kindness

It is vitally important not to let America get away with what appear to be "good deeds." Take food drops in Afghanistan. The Americans were obviously trying to lead people into mine fields or kill them by squashing them with food packets. It was a clever trick (for Americans, har, har, har) but we're on to you!

Congratulations! You've now learned everything you'll
need to know about anti-Americanism. You can now wear your turtleneck, eat your quiche, and sneer at everything American with pride!

Viva la Anti-Americanism!

[Brian]

I just tripped and fell down.


Fucking Americans!

(Edited by Brian at 6:10 pm on Aug. 3, 2002)

[Nateddi]

good post CI

although you have a lot of flaming and rhetoric, i believe you have a good point at the base of your post nonetheless. the left needs to look at itself objectively

[Guest]

Brilliant post CI,

It really sums up nicely what Che-lives comrades are all about.

[marxistdisciple]

Actually I like America, beautiful continent. And I like a lot of american people too. I went out with a couple of american girls, have a cute accent, very straight and upfront people too. Don't like capitalism though.

[Americana]

God, all those Americans save everyone in wartime and pour billions of dollars into revolutions and belittled and defenseless nations! They are so mean and rotten! Why can't they be more like France and do nothing and lose wars!?

[peaccenicked]

Save everyone in wartime? Do you want to see the pictures from Vietnam?

[concerned]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 3:45 am on Aug. 5, 2002
Save everyone in wartime? Do you want to see the pictures from Vietnam?

Yes, save everyone in wartime. As you might recall the U.S. went into Vietnam because France was crying and begging for help.

[Michael De Panama]

Have you been getting stupider by the day, Cappie?

[IzmSchism]

This post like a lot of your recent posts are POINTLESS.

[Anonymous]

Common myths and misconceptions about the Vietnam war.

http://www.vhfcn.org/stat.htm

[vox]

In case anyone missed this article from a couple of days ago here it is:

Tonkin Incident Might Not Have Occurred (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0805-09.htm)

It's always good to keep abreast of things like this.

vox

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Michael De Panama on 8:22 pm on Aug. 5, 2002
Have you been getting stupider by the day, Cappie?


Did I strike a nerve, liberal?

[Michael De Panama]

Of course not. Don't flatter yourself. I just am seeing a lot of rediculous statements coming from you lately. You're developing the annoying habit of ignoring who the communists really are, and just looking at Cold War stereotypes as example. This place has become less of a debate board and more of a free-for-all flame board.

[Stormin Norman]

This one is funny as well. I laughed when I read micheal de panama, "You are getting stupider by the day". How ironic that someone would make themselves sound so stupid when insulting the intelligence of another. Stupider, another word created by the left wingers on Che-lives.

(Edited by Stormin Norman at 9:34 am on Aug. 6, 2002)

[vox]

"Stupider, another word created by the left wingers on Che-lives."

You're saying that "stupider" isn't a legitimate word, right? Okay:

Have a look (http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=stupider).

stupid
stupider
stupidest

It follows the traditional rules, too. It's not even an exceptional word, just a common one.

I think we may know now, however, who the stupidest person on the board is. Any guesses?

vox

[Michael De Panama]

How trivial, SN. I'm fully aware of what is and isn't a word. I was also aware of the fact that I was the one writing, and what I write will be written the way I feel is necessary. This is another example of how rediculously superficial the debates have become. Quite frankly, I'm getting pretty annoyed by it all.

And since when did I become Peaccenicked?

(Edited by Michael De Panama at 9:33 pm on Aug. 5, 2002)

[Stormin Norman]

Then again, nothing is more ironic than some jackass trying to point out someone else's mistake and realizing that he is wrong.

Thanks Vox. You're right I am wrong. It just didn't sound right. I will try not to make the stupidest of mistakes again.

[James]

This got posted a lshort while ago (however, before some of these members days). I'll paste it for their pleasure...

by Richard Du Boff
April 28, 2002


1. In December 2001, the United States officially withdrew from the 1972 Antiballistic Missile Treaty, gutting the landmark agreement--the first time in the nuclear era that the US renounced a major arms control accord.

2. 1972 Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention ratified by 144 nations including the United States. In July 2001 the US walked out of a London conference to discuss a 1994 protocol designed to strengthen the Convention by providing for on-site inspections. At Geneva in November 2001, US Undersecretary of State John Bolton stated that "the protocol is dead," at the same time accusing Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria of violating the Convention but offering no specific allegations or supporting evidence.

3. UN Agreement to Curb the International Flow of Illicit Small Arms, July 2001: the US was the only nation to oppose it.

4. April 2001, the US was not reelected to the UN Human Rights Commission, after years of withholding dues to the UN (including current dues of $244 million)--and after having forced the UN to lower its share of the UN budget from 25 to 22 percent. (In the Human Rights Commission, the US stood virtually alone in opposing resolutions supporting lower-cost access to HIV/AIDS drugs, acknowledging a basic human right to adequate food, and calling for a moratorium on the death penalty.)

5. International Criminal Court (ICC) Treaty, to be set up in The Hague to try political leaders and military personnel charged with war crimes and crimes against humanity. Signed in Rome in July 1998, the Treaty was approved by 120 countries. Although President Clinton signed the Treaty, he announced that the United States would oppose it, along with 6 others (including China and Russia). In October 2001 Great Britain became the 42nd nation to ratify. In December 2001 the US Senate again added an amendment to a military appropriations bill that would keep US military personnel from obeying the jurisdiction of the proposed ICC. In April 2002 the ICC was scheduled to go into effect after being ratified by the required 60 nations; the Bush administration announced that it might "unsign" the Treaty, something the United States has never before done.

6. Land Mine Treaty, banning land mines; signed in Ottawa in December 1997 by 122 nations. The United States refused to sign, along with Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Vietnam, Egypt, and Turkey. President Clinton rejected the Treaty, claiming that mines were needed to protect South Korea against North Korea's "overwhelming military advantage." He stated that the US would "eventually" comply, in 2006; this was disavowed by President Bush in August 2001.

7. Kyoto Protocol of 1997, for controlling greenhouse gas emissions and global warming: declared "dead" by President Bush in March 2001; no other country has chosen to abandon the treaty completely. In November 2001 the Bush administration shunned negotiations in Marrakesh (Morocco) to revise the accord, mainly by watering it down in a vain attempt to gain US approval. In February 2002 Mr. Bush announced a new plan to limit emissions--by measures that are to be strictly voluntary. The United States is the largest single producer of emissions, generating 20 percent of the world's total.

8. In May 2001, refused to meet with European Union nations to discuss, even at lower levels of government, economic espionage and electronic surveillance of phone calls, e-mail, and faxes (the US "Echelon" program). Meanwhile, the United States has escalated its opposition to the European Union's "Galileo" project, a 30-satellite space system for navigation and positioning that would rival the U.S. system. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz told the EU in December 2001 that "Galileo" would have "negative consequences for future NATO operations."

9. Refused to participate in Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)-sponsored talks in Paris, May 2001, on ways to crack down on off-shore and other tax and money-laundering havens.

10. Refused to join 123 nations pledged to ban the use and production of anti-personnel bombs and mines, February 2001.

11. September 2001: withdrew from International Conference on Racism, bringing together 163 countries in Durban, South Africa.

12. International Plan for Cleaner Energy: G-8 group of industrial nations (US, Canada, Japan, Russia, Germany, France, Italy, UK), July 2001: the US was the only one to oppose it.

13. Enforcing an illegal boycott of Cuba, now being made tighter. In the UN in October 2001, the General Assembly passed a resolution, for the tenth consecutive year, calling for an end to the US embargo, by a vote of 167 to 3 (the US, Israel, and the Marshall Islands in opposition).

14. Comprehensive [Nuclear] Test Ban Treaty. Signed by 164 nations and ratified by 89 including France, Great Britain, and Russia; signed by President Clinton in 1996 but rejected by the Senate in 1999. The US is one of 13 nonratifiers among countries that have nuclear weapons or nuclear power programs. In November 2001, the US forced a vote in the UN Committee on Disarmament and Security to demonstrate its opposition to the Test Ban Treaty.

15. In 1986 the International Court of Justice (The Hague) ruled that the US was in violation of international law for "unlawful use of force" in Nicaragua, through its actions and those of its Contra proxy army. The US refused to recognize the Court's jurisdiction. A UN resolution calling for compliance with the Court's decision was approved 94-2 (US and Israel voting no).

16. In 1984 the US quit UNESCO (UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization) and ceased its payments for UNESCO's budget, over the New World Information and Communication Order (NWICO) project designed to lessen world media dependence on the "big four" wire agencies (AP, UPI, Agence France-Presse, Reuters). The US charged UNESCO with "curtailment of press freedom," as well as mismanagement and other faults, despite a 148-1 in vote in favor of NWICO in the UN. UNESCO terminated NWICO in 1989; the US nonetheless refused to rejoin. In 1995 the Clinton administration proposed rejoining; the move was blocked in Congress and Clinton did not press the issue. In February 2000 the US finally paid some of its arrears to the UN but excluded UNESCO, which the US has not rejoined.

17. Optional Protocol, 1989, to the UN's International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, aimed at abolition of the death penalty and containing a provision banning the execution of those under 18. The US has neither signed nor ratified and specifically exempts itself from the latter provision, making it one of five countries that still execute juveniles (with Saudi Arabia, Democratic Republic of Congo, Iran, Nigeria). China abolished the practice in 1997, Pakistan in 2000.

18. 1979 UN Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination against Women. The only countries that have signed but not ratified are the US, Afghanistan, Sao Tome and Principe.

19. The US has signed but not ratified the 1989 UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, which protects the economic and social rights of children. The only other country not to ratify is Somalia. A further treaty banning the recruitment of children under 18 years of age by armies and rebel militias was approved by the UN General Assembly in May 2000 and took effect in February 2002. It has been signed by 96 countries and ratified by 18, but not by the United States which allows voluntary enlistment at 17.

20. UN International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, 1966, covering a wide range of rights and monitored by the Committee on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights. The US signed in 1977 but has not ratified.

21. UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, 1948. The US finally ratified in 1988, adding several "reservations" to the effect that the US Constitution and the "advice and consent" of the Senate are required to judge whether any "acts in the course of armed conflict" constitute genocide. The reservations are rejected by Britain, Italy, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, Greece, Mexico, Estonia, and others.

22. UN Convention on the Law of the Sea, 1982, followed by the 1994 Agreement relating to Implementation of Part IX (Deep Seabed Mining), establishing a legal framework for management of marine resources and preservation of the marine environment for future generations (including fish stocks, minerals, international navigation, marine scientific research and marine technologies). President Clinton submitted these treaties to the Senate in 1994, but they have not been ratified, as they have been by 135 and 100 countries respectively. The primary obstacle for applying them remains the absence of US ratification.

23. Long-time violator of the 1963 Vienna Convention on Consular Relations and Optional Protocols, by detaining people and holding them in custody, at times without charges, and failing to notify their governments when they are foreign nationals. In recent months Canada and European countries have expressed frustration at the dearth of information available to them on many cases, as well as concern about reported mistreatment of some detainees.

24. Cartagena Protocol on Biosafety to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity, January 2000: an international treaty sponsored by 130 nations, seeking to protect biological diversity from risks posed by genetically modified organisms (GMOs) resulting from modern biotechnology. To date, it has been ratified by 13 countries and signed by 95 more, including United Kingdom, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Ireland, both Koreas, China, India, Indonesia, Argentina, Mexico. The United States has long argued that there is no reason for such a protocol and successfully weakened the accord, has not ratified it, and is not expected to do so.

25. Is the status of "we're number one!" Rogue overcome by generous foreign aid to given less fortunate countries? The three best aid providers, measured by the foreign aid percentage of their gross domestic products, are Denmark (1.01%), Norway (0.91%), and the Netherlands (0.79), The three worst: USA (0.10%), UK (0.23%), Australia, Portugal, and Austria (all 0.26).

I believe this my give in an insite as to why some people may be considered to be "Anti-American".

(Edited by James at 10:40 pm on Aug. 5, 2002)

[Supermodel]

I'm going to try to help out with CI's point here. I've been on this website since after 9/11 and I was very surprised at how anti-american some posters are.

Of course, they have a right to be.

On the other hand, America did not invent capitlism or imperialism.

I am not an American but I chose to live in the USA and raise a new crop of Americans just to piss off the rest of the world. I've lived in several other countries.

You can't take a 10 day package tour of New York or a week on Miamim Beach and say you have been to America and don't like it. I mean, who doesn't love Miami beach?

[James]

Ok, i'll grant that there are people who HATE the USA, for anyold reason, and hate ALL americans.

But there are also the others, who; don't HATE the USA, or its people. But ditest the foriegn policy, and the damaging affects that "govenmental" moves have had, and will have. Like the list above. The list can go and on.

However i'm not simply suggesting that the USA is the one and only enemy. If the USSR was the only world power, i imagine you'd hear me being "anti-USSR" alot, but there would be good reasons. No country is perfect. But the US could improve soo much, and its the world super power. They are the ones that police the globe. Living in the UK can be very despressing , when you watch Tony being Bush's lap dog. Especially when it comes to war etc. But don't be thinking i'm in love with my country! Or with RUSSIA. CI doesn't seem to see this himself. He constantly posts about Russian problems, that may be connected in some very weak form, to the corruption, that was the USSR.

Etc Etc.

[vox]

"On the other hand, America did not invent capitlism or imperialism."

True enough, and a murderer didn't invent the gun he used, either. I'm not sure I get your point.

vox

[Anonymous]

Leftist leads to anti americanism? of course because the american way is right winger´s way! plus why should i visit America? (hehe!) like Einstein said once: "i wanted to choose a country with civil libertys and the closest to freedom as possible, i choosed America, and today i regret that choice!" i dont know if these were the words he said but he said something like this!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from the anarchist on 12:09 am on Aug. 6, 2002
Leftist leads to anti americanism? of course because the american way is right winger´s way! plus why should i visit America? (hehe!) like Einstein said once: "i wanted to choose a country with civil libertys and the closest to freedom as possible, i choosed America, and today i regret that choice!" i dont know if these were the words he said but he said something like this!

I've seen leftists use this quote on several occaisions.

Point of order: Einstein was a mathematical/physics genius, not a socio-political expert.

[James]

CI;

http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/26/001.html