Are you lonely tonight? [Archive]

Capitalist Fighter

31st July 2002, 06:15

Peace, i could respond in an angry or calm down. Fortuantely i have chosen the latter.
First of all why the inane drivel? Why are we here in leftist forum. In a forum titled "socialism vs capitalism". Well anybody with half a brain would realise that we are here to defend capitalism, as is wanted and intended. What do you sugggest? That all the cappies leave, then this forum, the most popular according to number of topics and posts, be closed down? You seem to be exasperated, most probably because you cannot compete with us? The reason, i don't know. But think before to type. Seriously this is so stupid. Most commies here cry and complain that cappes are invading this leftist forum, when you have specificially opened up a forum that encourages us to post and debate the merits of our chosen system. Without us it would be stale, repetitive and full of ignorance.
Secondly, what are you talking about needing human contact? I like to debate so i found an internet forum. You are here as much as me, according to the number of posts more actually which suggest you crave human contact moreso then i do. The fact is that capitalist society has also "reduced" you to posting on this board as well, so don't act all high and mighty. And who says i don't do go for human beings? Am i evil because i am a capitalist? Pft, the best thing i can see that you can do for society is escape your shallowness and realise there is more than communist books.

peaccenicked

31st July 2002, 07:02

"Peace, i could respond in an angry or calm down. Fortuantely i have chosen the latter."

Who are you trying to fool yourself?

''Well anybody with half a brain would realise that we are here to defend capitalism, as is wanted and intended''

This forum is a intended as ghetto. No one here expects you defend capitalism or wants you to. They just want to keep you away from other forums.

"What do you sugggest? That all the cappies leave, then this forum, the most popular according to number of topics and posts, be closed down? You seem to be exasperated, most probably because you cannot compete with us? The reason, i don't know. But think before to type. Seriously this is so stupid. ''

I for one advocate closing down this forum, it is a junk yard. I am not out to compete with you but destroy the sick anti human ideology which you and others like you inanely represent and present rather badly here. Why
have to put up with the thoughtless idolisation of money is beyond me.
This forum is popular and that is because it attracts a large number of idiots who we are in someways duty bound to rebuff. It is our forum for admirers of CHE.
would you still come here if we closed this forum down.
The answer we think is yes. The reason this forum was opened was to stop capitalist spammers on a left forum.
None of you seem to want to appreciate this elementary fact. If you had any dignity at all. You would choose to leave right now.

''Without us it would be stale, repetitive and full of ignorance.''

The opposite is the case, the capis merely post old bourgeois prejudices about socialism that most of have heard a million times before and had the intelligence to dismiss at a very early age. I personally have met nothing that remotely challenges my beliefs and I have only had my mind changed in other forums.

''Secondly, what are you talking about needing human contact? I like to debate so i found an internet forum. You are here as much as me, according to the number of posts more actually which suggest you crave human contact moreso then i do. The fact is that capitalist society has also "reduced" you to posting on this board as well, so don't act all high and mighty''

Capitalism reduces people to potential commodities and customers. I hate what capitalism does to me and everybody. I am here to learn from my comrades how best to cope with this inhumane system that is dripping in blood from head to foot, and how best to overthrow it. You on the other hand uphold this system as the best on offer and you come here to escape your own miserable alienation. As far as I can see you are fucked up.

''And who says i don't do go for human beings? Am i evil because i am a capitalist''

I am not saying that at all, I am saying If capialism is so much fun why are you here annoying a very small group of lefties when you culd be doing some good.

''Pft, the best thing i can see that you can do for society is escape your shallowness and realise there is more than communist books. ''

Well that is really, shallow and banal.You have only proved you have prejudices and you do not know me at all.

In fact if I seriously believed what you capis believe about me. I would commit suicide. You are are that wrong and persistently wrong.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 7:06 am on July 31, 2002)

Brian

31st July 2002, 12:57

I smell facistism and its coming from peaccenicked.

(Edited by Brian at 6:58 am on July 31, 2002)

Hayduke

31st July 2002, 13:18

Shut up brian,

There's currently a poll in the Commie Club about if you should be banned. And let me put it this way " It doesnt look good for ya "

Anonymous

31st July 2002, 13:26

This has got to be one of the dodgiest titles posts in here. Sounds like a telephone sex line.

Mac OS Revolutionary

31st July 2002, 15:10

it isn't? uh oh

Mazdak

31st July 2002, 17:00

D-day, even if he has like nothing relevant to say, he still is funny.

And brian, the word is "facism," not facitism.

But i agree, what the hell is the point of capitalism vs. socialism if you want the capitalists gone? Who the hell are we supposed to argue with. We have like 5 other forums to argue against other leftists already.

Supermodel

31st July 2002, 17:05

Statistician supermodel reporting for duty.......

OK peace you are making the argument that posting here is for the lonely and lost.

Statistically speaking, the vast majority of posters on this board, and this forum, are lefties.

Maybe you are suggesting that Che-lives is a satisfying experience for lefties and a lonely one for Cappies.

Am I having a blonde moment or is your premise self defeating?

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 03:21

This forum attracts lefties because we dont want the capis to feel satisfied.
There is no point to this forum, it is here for pragmatic reasons. I am against in principle. It is like an Elvis fan club opening a forum for Elvis haters.
It is like holding a party and providing a room for the gatecrashers.
I am for freedom of speech. I dont want to ban the publication of capi ideas. If anything it is left wing ideas that suffer from corporate monopoly of the media.
However, I know of no leftist site that has been so generous with its space.
I am still asking the capi's what gives them the gall to post here. I am campaigning for them to voluntarily give up posting and explain why they want to be members
of a left club.
There has been no indication by any leftist here that the capis have had influence at all. What can they hope to gain here but knowledge of one another. Why should Che lives facilitate these people's social lives?
I am not against curious people here trying to develop their political thinking with capitalist sympathies but the blatant hostility of 'our' capis leads me to believe that their presence here is socially immoral.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 3:40 am on Aug. 1, 2002)

RedCeltic

1st August 2002, 03:26

What do you sugggest? That all the cappies leave, then this forum, the most popular according to number of topics and posts, be closed down?

God! Not only are you people blind to the obvious world problems capitalism causes, but you can't even see the obvious fact that Politics has more posts and threads..

Chit chat is slightly behind in posts but has more threads. Your argument, like all your arguments, holds no water.

And, let me just say that the only reason this forum exists is because most of us would rather see the cappies leave on their own than be banned.

andresG

1st August 2002, 04:48

It's 11:48 pm over here.
I am kinda lonely.
So I go to this thread becasue it seems like it would help.
But no!
Nothing for me here.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 05:07

It is ok to feel lonely, it is very natural. Everybody apart from real loners find a balance. Sometimes that is hard to do. There are different types of loneliness and spiritual loneliness afflicts intelligent people and specialists sometimes. Yet there is the loneliness of the anti social which is ultimately dangerous, at least the net is a place of relative safety. The capi's here are anti social as well as anti socialist. Would flat earthers try to invade a science forum with their ideas? What callous conceit?

Guest

1st August 2002, 05:26

You stupid fucking liberal commie pinko tree huggin kgb lovin' hammer and sickle suckin' beatnik hippie bastards!

Shut your asinine, ignorant, impetuous pieholes the fuck up!

Can't you see you've lost? The Soviet Union is gone, east germany is gone, the wall fell, china is morphing towards a free market as we speak, North Korea is staving to death, cuba, let alone being a third world nation, is a mere vestige, a ideological novelty, and even its future is short!!!!

Oh, and guess what geniuses, I know that you will come back with that most famous among countless red delusions that somehow none of these oppresssive, liberty robbing regimes were "true communism."

Well hally-fuckin-luya

Well, I'm no statistician, but I would think that if you attempt to acheive a state called "communism", employing principles designed to acheive a utopia of laborers devoid of an elite class and based on true brotherhood and alturism, and 5 OUT OF 5 times it evolves into an opresive totalitarian, authroitarian regime, then I would say that your original principles should perhaps be rethought. Call me crazy.

And do you know something? I am doing something good for fellow humans as a hobby, I am here with you invalids trying to make you understand that you are following a dying ideology, a relic, an state that no one wants. The world is emerging capitalist, the worlds most successful nations are capitalist. The worlds most advanced nations are capitalist. The worlds most alturistic nations are capitalist.

Desperate for human contact? Hell no, I have more of that then I can shake a stick at.

I am, however, desperate to contact 1 iota of 1 proton of 1 nucleus of 1 atom of 1 molecule of 1 mother fucking brain cell from a lefty on this board!!!!!!!!!!!

andresG

1st August 2002, 05:32

peaccenicked:
Your cool.
I was just kidding about the lonely thing, but you responded wonderfully.
Your posts are always interesting to read.

Guest

1st August 2002, 05:34

Darn it, the "Guest" is me, CI!!!!!!!!!!!!

It won't let me log in.

andresG

1st August 2002, 05:42

Really?
It was you Capitalist Imperial?
I would have never guessed!

Go to sleep capitalist, you need your rest!

Capitalist Imperial

1st August 2002, 05:42

OK, thats better, lets try again...

You stupid fucking liberal commie pinko tree huggin kgb lovin' hammer and sickle suckin' beatnik hippie bastards!

Shut your asinine, ignorant, impetuous pieholes the fuck up!

Can't you see you've lost? The Soviet Union is gone, east germany is gone, the wall fell, china is morphing towards a free market as we speak, North Korea is staving to death, cuba, let alone being a third world nation, is a mere vestige, a ideological novelty, and even its future is short!!!!

Oh, and guess what geniuses, I know that you will come back with that most famous among countless red delusions that somehow none of these oppresssive, liberty robbing regimes were "true communism."

Well hally-fuckin-luya

Well, I'm no statistician, but I would think that if you attempt to acheive a state called "communism", employing principles designed to acheive a utopia of laborers devoid of an elite class and based on true brotherhood and alturism, and 5 OUT OF 5 times it evolves into an opresive totalitarian, authroitarian regime, then I would say that your original principles should perhaps be rethought. Call me crazy.

And do you know something? I am doing something good for fellow humans as a hobby, I am here with you invalids trying to make you understand that you are following a dying ideology, a relic, an state that no one wants. The world is emerging capitalist, the worlds most successful nations are capitalist. The worlds most advanced nations are capitalist. The worlds most alturistic nations are capitalist.

Desperate for human contact? Hell no, I have more of that then I can shake a stick at.

I am, however, desperate to contact 1 iota of 1 proton of 1 nucleus of 1 atom of 1 molecule of 1 mother fucking brain cell from a lefty on this board!!!!!!!!!!!

RedCeltic

1st August 2002, 05:42

There you go flameing someone again. But, hell that's what it's all about for you fuckin' dip shit "Cappies" isn't it? Let me get this through your thick fuckin head MOTHER FUCKER!

STALIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
LENIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
CAPITALIST IMPERIAL IS A PIECE OF SHIT

Now fuck off!

vox

1st August 2002, 05:43

Hmmm, is "Guest" really CI? I don't know. Usually CI tries to be a bit more rational.

Regardless, whoever it was got her terms wrong:

"I am, however, desperate to contact 1 iota of 1 proton of 1 nucleus of 1 atom of 1 molecule of 1 mother fucking brain cell from a lefty on this board!!!!!!!!!!!"

She goes from big to small to big again. Bad form.

vox

Capitalist Imperial

1st August 2002, 05:54

That is the correct sequence in the concept I was trying to convey, vox.

I was going from small to large so I could "try to reach" the smallest inseperable particle of being, and then expanding it for reference.

Capitalist Imperial

1st August 2002, 05:56

Quote: from RedCeltic on 5:42 am on Aug. 1, 2002

STALIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
LENIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT

And they were real-world commnism personified

RedCeltic

1st August 2002, 05:59

And they were real-world commnism personified

I am not, and never have been a communist.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 06:02

CI. That was the most imbecilic post. I have read yet on this bb. Congratlations on the new low.
Chomsky, who you hate as well, but you target voices not what they say, a little like the fascists. Anyway he speaks of emotionally potent over-simplifications.
You have swallowed everything the Capitalist media and education system has spoon fed you.

You are teaching us nothing but the expanse of your own ignorance and spiritual poverty. If your friends must be so great, they would stop you acting like a modern day Don Quixote, dashing at windmills. All of which are in your slavish capi mind.

''I am doing something good for fellow humans as a hobby, I am here with you invalids trying to make you understand that you are following a dying ideology, a relic, an state that no one wants''
Socialism is not an ideology, it is the opposing force to capitalist ideology. Ideology by it nature dies, and yours is on its way out, that pile of stupidities and lies about socialism. Capitalism is not in ascendency it is in decline.
You cant fool all of the people all of the time, just lame idiots like you.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 6:08 am on Aug. 1, 2002)

vox

1st August 2002, 06:03

"That is the correct sequence in the concept I was trying to convey, vox.

"I was going from small to large so I could "try to reach" the smallest inseperable particle of being, and then expanding it for reference."

Uh, okay. But you didn't. An "iota" is, of course, larger than an atom, but then you end up with "brain cell," which again is much larger than an atom. That's why I said you went from big to small to big again.

So, you didn't go from small to large, for an iota is larger than a brain cell. You can't even rant properly, can you?

Just how very pathetic are you, CI?

vox

Capitalist Fighter

1st August 2002, 06:44

Quote: from RedCeltic on 5:42 am on Aug. 1, 2002
There you go flameing someone again. But, hell that's what it's all about for you fuckin' dip shit "Cappies" isn't it? Let me get this through your thick fuckin head MOTHER FUCKER!

STALIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
LENIN WAS A PIECE OF SHIT
CAPITALIST IMPERIAL IS A PIECE OF SHIT

Now fuck off!

You are such a hard ass Red.
And BTW, if you don't like this forum, don't post in it instead of whining and complaining and abusing. :)

Guest

1st August 2002, 07:14

Of all I would say peacenicked is the most stupid and ignorant of all socialists-communits on this forum. His stupidity is only comparable by that of the hermaphrodite vox.

Lardlad95

1st August 2002, 07:18

Quote: from Guest on 7:14 am on Aug. 1, 2002
Of all I would say peacenicked is the most stupid and ignorant of all socialists-communits on this forum. His stupidity is only comparable by that of the hermaphrodite vox.

you have a list of how stupid we all are? Cool I'm like number 756 out of 300 people aren't I.

Anyway Peace can be quite intellegent at times.

vox

1st August 2002, 07:23

Ah, reduced to nothing but name calling. Hee! They are like five year olds in kindergaten.

Hey, does CI post through Boston University? Or is this particular "guest" a simple coward unwilling to put a name on his garbage posting through a university network?

vox

Guest

1st August 2002, 07:24

Quote: from Lardlad95 on 7:18 am on Aug. 1, 2002

Anyway Peace can be quite intellegent at times.

Really?! Name me one.

Guest

1st August 2002, 07:32

Hey there vox,

we still don't know what are you, are you a guy, a girl or something in between. Malte confused us quite a lot last time with this matter.

It is not CI, dumbass, it is me "concerned". I am just unable to access my account now. I have quite a few discussions with you in the past, all of which you exited cowardly without giving me a response.

Oh, I btw, fyi the Boston University thing is just a mirror site I use to confuse dumbasses like you. I challenge you to obtain my real IP address, you would have to have just a little bit more knowledge than to use a simple ping and a traceroute though.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 07:34

Considering who some of your hate fiqures are. I'll
take it as a compliment.
''Whining'' I am telling you straight how pathetic you look. Aristotle once said real learning was suffering.
Self honesty is incompatable with your very similar world outlooks. All of you look for the comfortable easy life when it comes to thinking. You don't. What passes for thought in your minds is slavish acceptence of the conservative thinking.
Why dont you wise up to youselves?
There is a tool called ''honest questioning''. This involves exploring ideas and not imposing self serving prejudice
on the unfamiliar.
You are completely unfamiliar with politics, outside your own.

Guest

1st August 2002, 07:39

hey peacenicked, I am impressed, you finally came up with a post of your own!

vox

1st August 2002, 07:43

Well, guest,

You write that, "we still don't know what are you, are you a guy, a girl or something in between. Malte confused us quite a lot last time with this matter."

Post a link please. Can you?

You also write that you've had "quite a few discussions with (me) in the past, all of which you exited cowardly without giving me a response."

I don't recall them, so please provide at least two links. After all, when asked, I provided CI with four, so it's only fair, right? Or are you simply lying?

"Oh, I btw, fyi the Boston University thing is just a mirror site I use to confuse dumbasses like you. I challenge you to obtain my real IP address, you would have to have just a little bit more knowledge than to use a simple ping and a traceroute though."

I PH34R UR 1337 00B3R SK!11Z!!!12121!!!!

Hee!

Oh, and, fyi, I didn't even have to use either. But you should have know that, 5h0u1dn't U?

vox

Capitalist Fighter

1st August 2002, 07:45

Peace, you base that analysis on what again? How do you know my intellect? From a few posts in an internet forum. Please. I come here to discuss the merits of capitalism vs socialism, as the forum sticky topic dictates to the members who access it. Run by me again how i am breaking some rules or am going against the tide in this "SOCIALISM VS CAPITALISM" forum.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 07:47

finally , my arse, YOU SHOULD BE SO LUCKY. I use all available weapons and your petty minded fascist way of thinking wont stop me.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 07:58

How do I know your intellect? That is easy I have grown up with your ideas they are common place. I have heard everything you have to say over and over again. I have studied right wing thinkers who have been hundred times more challenging than any capi here. I could write your puny attacks against socialism in my sleep.
I am all too familiar with your chatter. Sometimes it is so boring, I really do wonder why I am here? It is my resolve to chase you away.
However you people are incredibly shameless.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 08:09

BTW I am not contesting your breaking the rules of this bb. What I am contesting is your breaking of the rules of common decency and humanity.
I have never went to any meeting or club to open up hostilities.
This forum is here to keep you out of other forums, that in itself, if I were you would send me a fuck off signal
that dignity of itself would demand in me a retreat.
Here I am talking about genuine self respect.

Guest

1st August 2002, 09:54

Quote: from vox on 7:43 am on Aug. 1, 2002
Well, guest,

You write that, "we still don't know what are you, are you a guy, a girl or something in between. Malte confused us quite a lot last time with this matter."

Post a link please. Can you?

Sure thing vox, here you go:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...ic=706&start=60 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=706&start=60)

You also write that you've had "quite a few discussions with (me) in the past, all of which you exited cowardly without giving me a response."

I don't recall them, so please provide at least two links. After all, when asked, I provided CI with four, so it's only fair, right? Or are you simply lying?

Sure thing kiddo, here are just a couple to refresh your memory:

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...ic=671&start=10 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=671&start=10)

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/top...pic=479&start=0 (http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/topic.pl?forum=22&topic=479&start=0)

Oh, and, fyi, I didn't even have to use either. But you should have know that, 5h0u1dn't U?

Of course you didn't, you don't know any better. Any idiot can look up a DNS name from the list.

Guest

1st August 2002, 09:56

Oh, btw vox, go look in the list to see from where I am writing you now!

vox

1st August 2002, 10:11

As for the first link, I didn't even know it was there, but you lied about what Malte said. Anyway, MDP summed it up nicely:

"Vox seems to have the effect on people to devote a lot of their time and effort into explaining why they hate him. Again, very cute, but it ultimately shows a lack of any substantial argument."

As for the other two, how do I know they were you? I don't give guests much credit, you know, and it's true I don't follow up on them. However, you've gone to great lengths to prove that you IP address doesn't show who you are, so I say you're lying and that wasn't you at all but rather you found two random threads where a guest posted.

Now, you'll have to show I'm wrong, won't you? After all, if you're so scared of this place that you only post as a guest and use a proxy, don't expect much in return.

Hee!

You're hax0r arrogance has just disabled your argument. It's like an O. Henry story! Hee!

By the way, Guest, you're not writing me from anywhere. You're posting to a board, which is something quite different, as you must surely know.

vox

Capitalist Fighter

1st August 2002, 13:26

peace,

you have taken a very belligerent tone my friend. I have nothing against you but you do need to come down. If you are against this forum or this site for allowing capis to post, then i suggest you leave without further crying over spilt milk.

peaccenicked

1st August 2002, 14:12

I think I am made it clear what I am doing here. You may regard it as belligerent but I am trying to demonstrate that this forum is dead and all you capis are doing is writing your own epitaphs in capi babble.
You are wasting your own time and ours as all you give out is belligerence, blind to what most leftists understand as socialism.
Friend? Dont try to enlist me into your fantasy world.
Get real!

Capitalist Imperial

1st August 2002, 15:08

Quote: from vox on 6:03 am on Aug. 1, 2002
"That is the correct sequence in the concept I was trying to convey, vox.

"I was going from small to large so I could "try to reach" the smallest inseperable particle of being, and then expanding it for reference."

Uh, okay. But you didn't. An "iota" is, of course, larger than an atom, but then you end up with "brain cell," which again is much larger than an atom. That's why I said you went from big to small to big again.

So, you didn't go from small to large, for an iota is larger than a brain cell. You can't even rant properly, can you?

Just how very pathetic are you, CI?

vox

Well, I don't know what dictionary you are using, but mine tells me that an iota is merely a very small particle. "Iota" does not refer to a specific constituent of something else, like "cell" or "molecule". It is a general term meaning "miniscule particle". It can be interpreted as being smaller than an atom or cell:

iota

I*o"ta, n. [L., fr. Gr. ?. See Jot.] 1. The ninth letter of the Greek alphabet ([iota]) corresponding with the English i.

2. A very small quantity or degree; a jot; a particle.
Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

Do you have a different definition? I would like to see it.

Stormin Norman

1st August 2002, 15:34

This premise behind this thread seems a little presumptous. Don't you think? First of all, you assume that I view you leftist as human, which I don't. Then you continue to assume that nothing we do benefits mankind. Listen tworp, the fruits of my labor will do more to benefit mankind than you sitting around *****ing about how people fail to let communism work. Sometimes I help people out. Unlike you, I don't find it necessary to wear it as a badge. I do it for different reasons. You want the bragging rights, where as, I do it because I value other human lives. That is unless they are a self proclaimed communist. Then, I would let them die in the streets were they belong.

I don't long for any human contact. I get enough. At least, here I don't have to look the leftist in the eye, and see the depravity of a worthless being. Che-lives provides a forum where I can debate with the subhuman with out having to dry heave at the site of them.

Augusto

1st August 2002, 16:41

haha
<ass pat>
hahahaha

Guest

1st August 2002, 20:20

Quote: from vox on 10:11 am on Aug. 1, 2002
As for the first link, I didn't even know it was there, but you lied about what Malte said.

I never said Malte said anything, what I said was that Malte confused us with this matter. He refers to you as a him and a she at the same time. We are all still wondering.

Quote: from vox on 10:11 am on Aug. 1, 2002

As for the other two, how do I know they were you? I don't give guests much credit, you know, and it's true I don't follow up on them. However, you've gone to great lengths to prove that you IP address doesn't show who you are, so I say you're lying and that wasn't you at all but rather you found two random threads where a guest posted.

hahaha, great escape vox. One post have exactly the same mirror IP address I have alway used to make my posts, that is the one from Boston University as you pointed out. The other one if from concerned, not a guest, I was registered as concerned as I previously told you. Coincidence? Unlikely. But think whatever you want, if you want to think it was not me, then fine, but that guest really kicked your ass I have to say, whoever you want it to be!

What a pathetic way out vox.. really, you must be really desperate. In the future I might say a similar thing about you, how can I really know it is really you writing and not some impostor using your account?

Quote: from vox on 10:11 am on Aug. 1, 2002

Now, you'll have to show I'm wrong, won't you? After all, if you're so scared of this place that you only post as a guest and use a proxy, don't expect much in return.

No I don't have to prove a thing. You asked me for two examples and I gave them to you. It has exactly the same IP address I have always used. If you want to give a pathetic excuse, that is fine, I kind of expected that from you.

I don't have to prove you anything until you prove me beyond any doubt that you are really vox and not some hacker using vox's account. Heck, for all we know you have been both male and female here.

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 01:28

''First of all, you assume that I view you leftist as human, which I don't''
No! I know you are fascist minded twat.
SICK to the core with no idea of what is to be human or what is going on in the world.

Lardlad95

2nd August 2002, 02:03

Quote: from Guest on 7:24 am on Aug. 1, 2002

Quote: from Lardlad95 on 7:18 am on Aug. 1, 2002

Anyway Peace can be quite intellegent at times.

Really?! Name me one.

in the thread about mathmatical proof of no god thread, he didn't convince me but was rather intellegent

Capitalist Fighter

2nd August 2002, 02:56

Lardlad95,

That mathematical proof thread of the apparent non-existence of God is absolute rubbish. Peace just demonstrated his ability to copy and paste other people's formulas, human mathematical formulas, and attempt to superimpose them in an argument against God. The irony of this makes the thread worthless as God is above all human thought and concept, such as superficial numbers and digits. Humans cannot disprove or prove him. If they could they would be up to His level which we are not.
Also peace we know your attitude to this forum, stop *****ing, whining, take it like a man and leave if you don't like it. It's like a child complaining he doesn't like chocolate ice-cream at the same time that he is eating one. If you can't handle the heat, get out of the kitchen.

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 03:08

Piss off you patronising shite.
You dont know my attitude to this board. If you did you would n't be here. That is the point.
Who is *****ing ? What a hypocrit you are?
There is no heat here merely Capi cold bollocks, and a good part of that comes from you. Maybe you should listen to yourself. But I figure you are too dumb to fathom anything that remotely challenges your intelligence.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 3:15 am on Aug. 2, 2002)

American Kid

2nd August 2002, 03:08

This is one of the most ugliest/partisan threads on here I've ever seen.

I don't even care. I stopped responding to this guy's posts a long time ago.

Now you see why.

-AK

(if "he" doesn't like what's happening here, "he" can just pull a lyceum and hack the site, you know...........)

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 03:25

You have got the ugly/partisan bit right. Yet the ugliness comes from twisted logic of ideologues hostile to Che guevara becoming members of a bb dedicated to his memory. The fact that none of you have got presence of mind enough to see that and then try to ''mitigate'' your behaviour by justifying your hostility, shows me and everybody here, how lost you are in the world.
All reason has left you.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 3:32 am on Aug. 2, 2002)

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 03:46

Futhermore, as all reason has left you, how can this be called a SocvCap board.
Socialism versus the brain dead parrots of anti communist propaganda. There is no debate. All I see is posts that run over everything we say, like a fascist tank.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 3:51 am on Aug. 2, 2002)

Capitalist Fighter

2nd August 2002, 04:05

Okay peace we know your opinion of this forum. Leave it now if you want. Whining won't get you anywhere, neither will personal abuse. Yes all capies are stupid and fascists and stuff, okay whatever, now we know what you have to say. Get your copy and paste [email protected]# out of here! :)

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 04:13

No you dont know my opinion. You have merely dismissed it.
Because you cant cope with the truth.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 4:16 am on Aug. 2, 2002)

Capitalist Fighter

2nd August 2002, 04:20

look dude, now you are just rambling and digging holes for yourself. Listen to me,

I know you don't like us capitalists very much.
You don't like the Socialism vs Capitalism forum very much.
You like the Che-lives.com website and all the other forums but this one.

Now assuming the above is correct, why don't you stop expressing your opinion which i have no dismissed. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE THINKING. The solution for you is to leave this socialism vs capitalism forum and merely post in the other forums. We don't want to hear anymore somebody acting childish and complain about a forum he regularly posts in and refuses to leave because of his sturborness.

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 04:33

What a joke?
You understand nothing.
All you are doing is asserting your right to post.
Fuck all human considerations.
me me me me.
The truth is I understand you.
AS AK put it. ''I dont care''
What I am pointing to is the nature of your capi ethos.
In good old Soc v cap fashion.
I take it that none of you profess any real morality.
It is something you can take or leave.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 4:36 am on Aug. 2, 2002)

Capitalist Fighter

2nd August 2002, 04:40

Okay peace,

I understand your intendity as a bitter man who abuses and insults whilst giving the impression that his line of thought is perfect and all who oppose are evil people who had freeodm ,democracy, et cetera. LOL. Listen to yourself. Freak. Anyways do what you want i don't care but ease up on the whining. I have younger cousins who act more mature then you. Now why don't you debate the merits of socialism vs capitalism in this forum as is intended? Wait you don't like doing that because the capitalists here are stupid. Well then since you have rejected my proposal that you leave out of stubborness, enjoy your time here, it will be filled with anger, disenchantment, annoyance and boredom. That is your choice. As chairman Mao said...
"Everybody has to taste some bitterness".

peaccenicked

2nd August 2002, 04:48

Do you always delibrately avoid questions?
Here is another one.
Tell me a thread here that you think constitutes a debate?

reagan lives

3rd August 2002, 03:19

Was there a question to avoid in your last post? All I see is the same old incomprehensible babble. Maybe that nonsense makes sense to you, but to me it's just 11 arbitrarily separated lines full of disconnected words, like some sort of post-modernist pinko poetry. Maybe it would make more sense if you could come over here and read it to me...I'm lonely tonight.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 03:43

I take it that none of you profess any real morality.
It is something you can take or leave.

The form of the question is not regular but you dont need to be Sherlock Holmes to deduce it.

As I deduce deliberate blindness to most of the posts that socialists make in this forum.

reagan lives

3rd August 2002, 04:01

My my my, peacenick has his arrogant shoes on tonight. If I understand him correctly, he's saying that his challenge that capitalists have "no morality" is tantamount to a standing question. That is to say, from his perspective, anyone who he accused of "having no morality" would feel so insulted and taken aback that they would be almost biologically compelled to justify their system of morality to the little cowboy with the bouncing six-shooters. peacenick, eventually you're going to have to face up to the fact that you saying that capitalists have no morality has roughly the same effect on me (I can't speak for anyone else here) that I imagine you would experience if I said that all communists were ugly. Which is to say, none at all (I should hope). The fact is that if I felt compelled to justify my system of morality to anyone on this board, which I don't, it certainly wouldn't be you.

So, from now on, if you have a question then ask it.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 04:14

Morality as a convience is not the same as no morality at least to some degree.
The question I put is : Is there any dignity in becoming a member of a BB which is dedicated to the memory of Che Guevara and post your hostility to everything he stood for, in the light that this forum is only here to stop
you posting elsewhere?
Do you know how to take a hint?

American Kid

3rd August 2002, 04:38

Peacennicked is an idiot.

And he's ALWAYS here. Who's lonely tonight?

Regan lives, TAG!, you're in!

-AK

The Guest

3rd August 2002, 05:02

Peacenicked doesn't even understand what morality is.

Just because we aren't altruist doesn't mean we don't

care for people. I for one only don't care for peices of

shit like you who have perpetrated the fraud of calling

socialism good. I care for the true achievement of man,

not the failure. Socialism is the ideology that feeds of

the poor not capitalism. If not for the poor where would

the social or welfare worker be? Were would sociology

be? Were would Noam Chomsky be? All your ignorant

leaders who teach people they are helpless to the big

machine they can't see (where would they be). The only

enemy of people is the socialist (or any other person)

who tries to tell them all their problems are caused by

other people. Socialism has done nothing for humanity

but produce envy and teach people that they can't

control their own lives.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 05:16

I am sure for all capis, anyone who talks about dignity is in a idiot, let alone questions your sense of it.
TheGuest is a moron too. To blame poverty on socialism
is akin to blaming christ for the crucifixation.
Socialists want to eradicate poverty not tell the filthy lie that Capitalism is not a dependency culture by which the rich depend on the poor and the relatively poor working class who creates all of its profits.
Are you here to promote the crass ignorance of anti working class lies?

(Edited by peaccenicked at 5:18 am on Aug. 3, 2002)

The Guest

3rd August 2002, 05:24

Ha, ha. Do you know who invented sociology so they

could understand how to condition people as a science.

Socialist of the 1800's believed they could determine

the natural laws that control how people act. Well it

suceeded on the average idiot, but they still haven't

found out how to condition a strong mind. You are the

moron. If we are all socialist those who strive for better

understanding will have no reason to share their new

ideas. I guess it isn't really my problem though it isn't

like a socialist revolution would ever work. They don't

have the minds to keep up with the technology and

would be defeated due to lack of understanding

anything more than tribal, guerrilla warfare. Good Luck

Peaccenicked, hopefully someday we'll meet. Ha, ha.

The Guest

3rd August 2002, 05:27

By the way, Christ could have prevented his crusifixion, much like the poor could prevent their poverty. Besides Jesus thought it was virtuous to be poor, so I guess he is a good role model for you Peaccenicked.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 05:37

The bible says that Jonah lived in a whale.
If jesus thought poverty was a virtue then he was AN IDIOT.
Tell me how the poor can prevent their poverty.
Are you trying to say they are all lazy? Get real! The majority of the world's poor work for a dollar a day.
Why are you telling lies about the poor?

The Guest

3rd August 2002, 05:41

Maybe it is mental lazyness and thinking someone else

should do it for them. How do the people who have the

wealth to help them have it. Why don't you get real? If

you want to suceed in life you can. Nothing holds

people back exept self doubt. You think people are so

helpless people. I say helpless people are a disgrace to

the human race. Anybody who thinks that they can't do

for themselves is in a sad state, and no amount of

reform, regulation, or welfare will help them.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 05:54

Pure unadulterated lies.
Most wealth is inherited.
Capitalism does not create enough jobs.
Millions of talented people are unemployed.
Millions of small firms go bankrupt every year.
You are a low life who spits on the poor.
No wonder you have no sense of dignity.

The Guest

3rd August 2002, 05:57

Prove it you fucking liar. You can spout out 150 year old

Marxist rhetoric but you don't have any proof. Wealth is

a symbol of value and can't truely be inherited. If

someone inherits money from a relative, the wealth was

still created by someone other than the socialists you

claim have a right to it.

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 06:06

What proof would you accept?
As far as I can see you are a closed minded fool who does not know what is going on in the word nor wants to.
If inherited wealth is so illusionary then why should I
not have the right to say it should be given back to the people who actually made it. The working class.

Stormin Norman

3rd August 2002, 06:41

"The majority of the world's poor work for a dollar a day."

Well here are some exchange rates for you. Do the math. Oh wait, you don't have to, because somebody already did it for you. How far do you think a dollar lasts in some of the poor nations? Here is another dose of reality for you, Peacenicked.

1US = 1.013Euro
1US = 4726.300 Afganistan Afganis
1US = 31.569 Angolan New Kwanza
1US = 3.610 Argentine Peso
1US = 59.462 Bangledeshi Taki
1US = 3.185 Brazialian
1US = 1.585 Canadian Dollars
1US = 703.400 Chilean Peso
1US = 7.797 Croatian Kuna
1US = 2.348 Cuban Pesos
1US = 8.692 Ethiopian Birr
1US = 0.003 Gold (oz.)
1US = 7.801 Hong Kong Dollars
1US = 1741.250 Iranian Rials
1US = 3260.900 Iraqi Dinar
1US = 48.600 Jamacian Dollars
1US = 118.950 Jananese Yen
1US = 0.301 Kuwaiti Dinar
1US = 1563.100 Lebanese lbs.
1US = 1.254 Libyan Dinar
1US = 3.802 Malaysian Ringgit
1US = 9.841 Mexican Pesos
1US = 14.270 Nicaraguan Cordoba
1US = 2.200 N Korean Won
1US = 0.003 Palladuim (oz.)
1US = 0.002 Platinum (oz.)
1US = 3.750 Saudi Riyals
1US = 1930.100 Sierra Leone Leones
1US = 10.244 South AFrican Rands
1US = 9.604 Swedish Krona
1US = 1.470 Swiss Francs
1US = 33.725 Taiwan Dollars
1US = 1,670,141 Turkish Lira
1US = 3.676 United Arab Emirates Dirhams
1US = 15960 Vietnamese Dongs
1US = 60.495 Yugoslav Dinars

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 06:47

I am impressed with the recital but not what you are trying to prove.
Are you trying to prove that average coffee worker in Brazil, for instance ,is not poor. You are sick.

Stormin Norman

3rd August 2002, 07:22

No! I am trying to make the point that the average cofee worker in Brazil probably enjoys a standard of living comparable to that of the average coffee worker in America. You can not always speak in terms of US dollar value when painting the picture of the poor starving workers of the world. The valuation of 1 US dollar is largely relative to your location in the world. Go to Mexico and see how much your paycheck will buy you there. That is one of the reasons that milionaires move their money off shore. A million dollars in South America is worth roughly three times more than in the US.

(Edited by Stormin Norman at 7:23 pm on Aug. 3, 2002)

peaccenicked

3rd August 2002, 14:25

$1 a day
3:1 conversion
5 day week. Now my calculation makes that 15 brazilian.

Explains a little of the American way a la Brazil.
http://www.wfsnews.org/citylife/inside5.html

Coffee workers in the US, thats a new one on me.

(Edited by peaccenicked at 2:26 pm on Aug. 3, 2002)

Stormin Norman

4th August 2002, 04:33

Where do you get your information that they make $1 a day?

Sorry, I thought you were speaking of a coffee shop worker. I am sure they are living as well as their counterparts in the US. The migrant worker's life has little to be desired, but millions of Mexicans come in search of a better way of life. They volunteer for the wages they get, and its beats making the Mexican pesos. Many of them pack 12 to a two bedroom dumpy apartment, and spend as little as possible to subsist. They save their money and send it home to their families. I know this because I live in an area infested by illegal immigrants, and have witnessed first hand how they live and work. Although I think they should take legal channels to get into the US, their work ethic is impeccable. I would hire an illegal immigrant before I would hire a communists, any day. At least the Mexican holds capitalist beliefs, and appreciates the job.