Whats the bloody point?

[Killfacer]

Whats the point in labeling yourself a Menshevik, an Anarcho-communist, a Anarcho-syndacalist, a stalinist, a leninist, a marxist, a trot or any of the other ridiculously convoluted and complicated branch of anarchism/communism/socialism when nobody in the real world A. Knows hat the hell your on about and B. Couldnt give two fucks.

I dont know about everybody else who live in America, Australia, Canada, Europe or anywhere else that people who post on this site but here in the good ole UK the revolution is dead and never was to begin with. I cant see, and i assume most sensible people would also agree, that the revolution will soon arrive under a huge wave of popular support from the seething underclass and transform our society into a communist state. Just aint, without a HUGE change in world economics or some other natural catastrophe, gonna happen.

The point of this is for people to answer the following questions:

1. Do people really think that a revolution is likely to happen in the UK or anywhere else for that matter? If not then why, and what could be done about it?
2. Does anyone think that there is even a large amount of people who care about any of this?
3. Whats the point labeling yourself with silly names when you should really be forming a united front?

[Bud Struggle]

Well, for one thing it makes all the Commies here moving targets in discussion--it takes about ten posts to figure out exactly what kind of Communist they are before you can even BEGIN discussing anything with them.

THEN each of the different kinds of Communists don't believe the other kinds of Communists are REAL Communists. So some people takes "credit" for Communist China, some don't. Some think the Soviet Union was Communist, some don't. Some can't wait for the whole world to be like North Korea, some see that place as a tad excessive. Some like Anarchy, some like their Communism with a kick ass, kill them all dictator.

Which in the end makes this place pretty interesting. These guys really think for themselves (except on Abortion, where they have to toe the party line.)

Anyway, it's all very informative.

[Vendetta]

In answer to 3, the same reason there are Republicans and Democrats and Greens and etc, etc, etc, probably.

[jake williams]

In lieu of giving a more thorough response, I'd just like to say that this isn't the real world - this is a very specified and specialized sort of community. A lot of things are generally assumed ideologically, or if not assumed, soon discovered to be basically agreed upon. A lot here is debate on things we disagree on, differences. It is not a normal environment. As individuals in the real world I would guess we all or mostly all act quite differently than we do here.

That said, it's not like there isn't way more sectarianism, much of it over completely trivial things, on the left than there should be. The reasons for this are complex.

[Awful Reality]

Ban him. NOW.

Or at least delete this bullshit, ignorant thread.

[cappin]

You're highly patriotic...that's, that's really respectable. Good for you. Really. I like the UK too.

There are people who know what we're talking about, and it appears you're not one. There are people who give 2 fucks, maybe even 3- this again excludes you.

[Dr Mindbender]

Whats the point in labeling yourself a Menshevik, an Anarcho-communist, a Anarcho-syndacalist, a stalinist, a leninist, a marxist, a trot or any of the other ridiculously convoluted and complicated branch of anarchism/communism/socialism when nobody in the real world A. Knows hat the hell your on about and B. Couldnt give two fucks.
Most people in the real world don't understand the inane rhetoric eminating from the mouths of mainstream politicians but that doesnt stop them from parroting it every day.


I dont know about everybody else who live in America, Australia, Canada, Europe or anywhere else that people who post on this site but here in the good ole UK the revolution is dead and never was to begin with. I cant see, and i assume most sensible people would also agree, that the revolution will soon arrive under a huge wave of popular support from the seething underclass and transform our society into a communist state. Just aint, without a HUGE change in world economics or some other natural catastrophe, gonna happen.
Thats because the necessary social and material conditions for communism havent arrived yet. But that is an inevitability because it is in the interests of capitalism to mantain and exacerbate the symptoms of the class system. Every time they do that, they make radical change that bit more likely.
I won't lie, we're a long long way off where we need to be. In our life time? I don't know. But just because i'm not likely to see something in my lifetime is a pretty vacuous and empty reason for supporting an ideology that promotes so much misery.



The point of this is for people to answer the following questions:

1. Do people really think that a revolution is likely to happen in the UK or anywhere else for that matter? If not then why, and what could be done about it?
See above, and yes, it is likely in other countries. Why only 2 years ago, Nepal was on the brink of a popular communist revolution while in Venezuela Chavez's party still has popular support.


2. Does anyone think that there is even a large amount of people who care about any of this?
Yes, there is actually. More so than are ardent supporters of capitalism. Attend any anti-G8 or anti IMF demo if you want proof.


3. Whats the point labeling yourself with silly names when you should really be forming a united front?
I agree totally.

[Lector Malibu]

Ban him. NOW.

Or at least delete this bullshit, ignorant thread.


Seconded!

[Dr Mindbender]

Seconded!

Let him respond to me at least.

Anyway, he's still young let him stick around a bit, he might learn.

[Lector Malibu]

Let him respond to me at least.

Anyway, he's still young let him stick around a bit, he might learn.

Fair enough.

And we were all young once it's important to re-enforce that.

[cappin]

Um, whatever. I'm 17 and I'm not that dumb.

[Joby]

1. Do people really think that a revolution is likely to happen in the UK or anywhere else for that matter? If not then why, and what could be done about it?

No, but they'd like to root for people willing to die fighting their government thousands of miles away.

As for them, well, they believe they actually have something to lose.


2. Does anyone think that there is even a large amount of people who care about any of this?

Maybe. Some think Lenin's birthday is still celebrated Lol


3. Whats the point labeling yourself with silly names when you should really be forming a united front?

Like the Catholic Church, Baptist Church, Methodist Church, Lutheran Church, and Church of Christ....they only look different to themselves.

Except, of course, that all of those institutions are at least somewhat relevant.

[Dean]

Whats the point in labeling yourself a Menshevik, an Anarcho-communist, a Anarcho-syndacalist, a stalinist, a leninist, a marxist, a trot or any of the other ridiculously convoluted and complicated branch of anarchism/communism/socialism when nobody in the real world A. Knows hat the hell your on about and B. Couldnt give two fucks.

I dont know about everybody else who live in America, Australia, Canada, Europe or anywhere else that people who post on this site but here in the good ole UK the revolution is dead and never was to begin with. I cant see, and i assume most sensible people would also agree, that the revolution will soon arrive under a huge wave of popular support from the seething underclass and transform our society into a communist state. Just aint, without a HUGE change in world economics or some other natural catastrophe, gonna happen.

The point of this is for people to answer the following questions:

1. Do people really think that a revolution is likely to happen in the UK or anywhere else for that matter? If not then why, and what could be done about it?
2. Does anyone think that there is even a large amount of people who care about any of this?
3. Whats the point labeling yourself with silly names when you should really be forming a united front?

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!

[Schrödinger's Cat]

What is the point labeling oneself a moderate, liberal, populist, progressive, neo-conservative, paleoconservative, Georgist, Objectivist, fascist, minarchist, anarcho-capitalist, and all other variants of capitalism?

[Schrödinger's Cat]

No, but they'd like to root for people willing to die fighting their government thousands of miles away.

As for them, well, they believe they actually have something to lose.



Maybe. Some think Lenin's birthday is still celebrated Lol



Like the Catholic Church, Baptist Church, Methodist Church, Lutheran Church, and Church of Christ....they only look different to themselves.

Except, of course, that all of those institutions are at least somewhat relevant.

Says the person with a George McGovern avatar. :laugh: You're very amusing, friend.

[cappin]

What's the point in having first, middle, and last names? And don't tell me it's for identification purposes because I know better.

[Kami]

What's the point in having first, middle, and last names? And don't tell me it's for identification purposes because I know better.
Wiat, what? It is for identification purposes. First name being primary identifier, last name being group identifier, and middle name creating a combination with first to reduce duplicates.

[Joby]

Says the person with a George McGovern avatar. :laugh: You're very amusing, friend.

Well, McGovern is probably my favorite Democrat of all time, though it appears Obama may be able to take the liberal-wing of the Dems all the way to the WH (which would be suh-weet). McGovern did more than any other person to destroy the Daley-Meany-Humphrey axis and truly make the Democratic party the enlightened one. Of course, once McGovern went down, the Big-Labor controllers came back and are now personified by the walking ghoul that is Hillary Clinton (not that I wouldn't vote for her, as much as a letdown as that would be).

But when it comes to '72, it's more important that we survived to fight in a larger war etc etc

Besides, the fact that Nixon, the aspiring fascist, won 49 states is more of a slap on the American people than McGovern.

[Robert]

Ban him. NOW.

All reactionary thought must be purged, even from OI. Everything reactionary is the same; if you don't hit it, it won't fall. This is also like sweeping the floor; as a rule, where the broom does not reach, the dust will not vanish of itself. RTG, with a little help from chairman Mao.

[Awful Reality]

All reactionary thought must be purged, even from OI. Everything reactionary is the same; if you don't hit it, it won't fall. This is also like sweeping the floor; as a rule, where the broom does not reach, the dust will not vanish of itself. RTG, with a little help from chairman Mao.

No it's just ignorant and a ridiculously moronic post from a ridiculously moronic poster. "Nobody gives two fucks."

[Killfacer]

i got to admit i really didnt expect such a violent response. Yes to my other threads, they challenged communism and people who are entitled to their own beleif were rightly annoyed. Instead of people actually answering the questions people have concentrated on 1 or 2 things and just answered them as opposed to what the most of my thread was about. First of all i want to thank Ulster Socialist and Joby for actually answering every question i posed, this is what discussions are about after all. As for you fourth internationalist. You fail to answer any of my thread, dismissing them but not giving satisfactory answers why. Dont post if your just going to be rude.

This post simply posed 2 questions:

1. Why is there an undeniable lack of popular support for both far right and far left groups amongst the wider population in England (this question is neither ignorant or offensive in anyway)
2. Stated my disagreement with the labeling of oneselves instead of having any kind of united front (maybe this statement was a bit misjudged but some people agree i think)

As for the wording of the thread which fourth internationalist seems to take offense at. Get over it, its just the way i write.

Ok now to answer the actual replies to the thread:

Yes Ulster Socialist you are correct that many people do go on G8 marches and whatnot. But many of these are not "revolutionaries" and when one looks at the amount of people on the march it is a tiny minority.

I guess when i say that communism is unpopular what im actually trying to ask is why there is apathy amongst much of the population for any extreme politics in general.

I would also like Cappin, istead of just calling me dumb, to answer the questions i have posed. These questions were not agressive or biased in anyway.

[Led Zeppelin]

Whats the point in labeling yourself a Menshevik, an Anarcho-communist, a Anarcho-syndacalist, a stalinist, a leninist, a marxist, a trot or any of the other ridiculously convoluted and complicated branch of anarchism/communism/socialism when nobody in the real world A. Knows hat the hell your on about and B. Couldnt give two fucks.

Actually I always start out by calling myself either a Marxist, socialist or communist.

If you are right and they don't know what I'm talking about, or don't care, it stays at that. They'll ask about what I believe in and I'll tell them, without having to explain the history.

That's usually not the case though. Questions about the Soviet Union, Stalin, Mao, Cuba, etc. etc. are asked which requires me to explain my historic position on those matters, which leads me to explain the various tendencies in the socialist/communist movement and why I disagree/agree with them.

That then leads to me calling myself a Trotskyist.

[careyprice31]

i got to admit i really didnt expect such a violent response. Yes to my other threads, they challenged communism and people who are entitled to their own beleif were rightly annoyed. Instead of people actually answering the questions people have concentrated on 1 or 2 things and just answered them as opposed to what the most of my thread was about. First of all i want to thank Ulster Socialist and Joby for actually answering every question i posed, this is what discussions are about after all. As for you fourth internationalist. You fail to answer any of my thread, dismissing them but not giving satisfactory answers why. Dont post if your just going to be rude.

This post simply posed 2 questions:

1. Why is there an undeniable lack of popular support for both far right and far left groups amongst the wider population in England (this question is neither ignorant or offensive in anyway)
2. Stated my disagreement with the labeling of oneselves instead of having any kind of united front (maybe this statement was a bit misjudged but some people agree i think)

As for the wording of the thread which fourth internationalist seems to take offense at. Get over it, its just the way i write.

Ok now to answer the actual replies to the thread:

Yes Ulster Socialist you are correct that many people do go on G8 marches and whatnot. But many of these are not "revolutionaries" and when one looks at the amount of people on the march it is a tiny minority.

I guess when i say that communism is unpopular what im actually trying to ask is why there is apathy amongst much of the population for any extreme politics in general.

I would also like Cappin, istead of just calling me dumb, to answer the questions i have posed. These questions were not agressive or biased in anyway.

actually if you ask most people would support leftism. Who would say no to free medicare, or helping people with welfare, or old age pensions> nobosy unless they're a nutbar and these are in a minority. Even most capiotalists would support that.

but I think most people get scared when the word "communist isuse because they know things about the ussr, lenin, stalin, and so on.

The reason people are turned off from communists or the word communism, I think, is because a lot of leftists do revere Lenin and Stalin. I have been studying russia for more than ten years and I kn ow for a fact these people are not to be idolized and they are far from angels. Leftists hurt themselves by liking these people . As you can see I dont like them.

why dont more people support the far right? The answer to that is obvious really.

I have come to the conclusion that most people prefer mixed economies over pure leftism or pure rightism. They want some leftism but atm dont want to shuck capitalism out altogether.

i think capitalism will take longer to express its ugly side to the majority of people because, lets face it, it has helped more people than feudalism or totalitarianism or autocracy. so it'll hang around for longer than the other types.

but i do hope it'll (the revolution) happen someday (make a better society than capitalism can create because still capitalism still exploits and it cant help everyone)

[Bud Struggle]

i think capitalism will take longer to express its ugly side to the majority of people because, lets face it, it has helped more people than feudalism or totalitarianism or autocracy...

or Communism. :D

[Dr Mindbender]

This post simply posed 2 questions:

1. Why is there an undeniable lack of popular support for both far right and far left groups amongst the wider population in England (this question is neither ignorant or offensive in anyway)
As has been stated by myself, and other revleft members, because the social and material conditions are not yet ripe for a popular communist movement to flourish. it could also be argued that there is also a lack of ardent support for capitalism too. Contrast that the the anti-globalisation movement, you never see a 'pro-capitalist' demonstration. In the UK there is a silent apollitical majority concerned only with bread and butter issues whose world view is tainted by whichever TV channel or tabloid 'shouts the loudest'. This says more about the existing status quo and its grip on the media and education system than it does about the legitmacy of the argument for a revolution.



Yes Ulster Socialist you are correct that many people do go on G8 marches and whatnot. But many of these are not "revolutionaries" and when one looks at the amount of people on the march it is a tiny minority.
Going back to my previous point, even fewer people are ardently critical of the G8 protestors. Most people are either silently in agreement or indifferent. That does not constitute a popular swing against them.
Secondly, these marches arent necessarilly about revolution in the classical context anyway. Its about people of all nations, creeds and cultures coming together united in their hatred of the existing system. Combined, hopefully its about producing something better than the cold hearted corporate machine that is currently king.

[Green Dragon]

Mr/s. Killerface question about the numerous divisions within the socialist world, as demonstrated by various socialist parties, was never really answered. Mr/s Gene Costa asked about various divisions within capitalism, which is no answer (a critique of capitalism is of course irrelevent when discussing socialism).

And its a fair question.

Since socialists sort of promise to unite the world, ought not their inability to unite socialism raise a bit of a red flag as to that loftier goal?

[Dr Mindbender]

Mr/s. Killerface question about the numerous divisions within the socialist world, as demonstrated by various socialist parties, was never really answered. Mr/s Gene Costa asked about various divisions within capitalism, which is no answer (a critique of capitalism is of course irrelevent when discussing socialism).

And its a fair question.

Since socialists sort of promise to unite the world, ought not their inability to unite socialism raise a bit of a red flag as to that loftier goal?

it is a problem, and its not one that I'm about to contest. However, without pointing fingers certain factions are less willing than others to unite and it's not possible to force them to 'want' to unite.

From personal experience, every broad front i've been involved with hasnt had a problem working with people regardless of their view on a post-revolutionary scenario provided they aren't a reactionary.

[RGacky3]

1. Do people really think that a revolution is likely to happen in the UK or anywhere else for that matter? If not then why, and what could be done about it?

Probably not in the UK, but other countries yes, also for many its not about "The Revolution," its about the continued struggle, and little revolutions, and little victories, that may or may not lead to something bigger.


2. Does anyone think that there is even a large amount of people who care about any of this?

You don't think people care about who controls what? About proverty, about wage-slavery? Yeah, they do, problem is many people don't see a solution.


3. Whats the point labeling yourself with silly names when you should really be forming a united front?

I generally label my self an Anarchist, or a Socialist Anarchist depending on who I'm talking too, so they get the jist of my principles, thats the point, and then generally I explain my principles.

No we should'nt be a united front, well, at least not all of us. I have no intention of being united with people who would replace Capitalism, with a centralized totalitarian state like the USSR, to me thats just as bad as Capitalism.

[Killfacer]

im a Mr.

What are these conditions required for a revolution or even for a wide support for revolutinary ideas?

[RHIZOMES]

Imagine if the Communists had won the Cold War. Would the right-wingers automatically become communists because they lost? :rolleyes:

[cappin]

Dumb.

[Joby]

Dumb.

Like ur face

[Killfacer]

Cappin, your replies to me are risable. Unlike others, you are unwilling to make inelligent statements on the subject either because your unable to or because your simply obnoxious. Shut up.

[Bud Struggle]

Imagine if the Communists had won the Cold War. Would the right-wingers automatically become communists because they lost? :rolleyes:

I would have become a Communist. And a DAMN GOOD COMMUNIST at that. Little by little I would have taken over the party and become ruler of the Communists. I would have put my friends in high places and I would have taken over.

I would have been a GREAT Communist. :hammersickle::hammersickle:

[Zurdito]

i got to admit i really didnt expect such a violent response. Yes to my other threads, they challenged communism and people who are entitled to their own beleif were rightly annoyed. Instead of people actually answering the questions people have concentrated on 1 or 2 things and just answered them as opposed to what the most of my thread was about. First of all i want to thank Ulster Socialist and Joby for actually answering every question i posed, this is what discussions are about after all. As for you fourth internationalist. You fail to answer any of my thread, dismissing them but not giving satisfactory answers why. Dont post if your just going to be rude.

This post simply posed 2 questions:

1. Why is there an undeniable lack of popular support for both far right and far left groups amongst the wider population in England (this question is neither ignorant or offensive in anyway)
2. Stated my disagreement with the labeling of oneselves instead of having any kind of united front (maybe this statement was a bit misjudged but some people agree i think)

As for the wording of the thread which fourth internationalist seems to take offense at. Get over it, its just the way i write.

Ok now to answer the actual replies to the thread:

Yes Ulster Socialist you are correct that many people do go on G8 marches and whatnot. But many of these are not "revolutionaries" and when one looks at the amount of people on the march it is a tiny minority.

I guess when i say that communism is unpopular what im actually trying to ask is why there is apathy amongst much of the population for any extreme politics in general.

I would also like Cappin, istead of just calling me dumb, to answer the questions i have posed. These questions were not agressive or biased in anyway.


lol it always makes me laugh when some kid turns up throwing insulting accusations at us and asking us basic questions and making basic points which anyone who has spent ten minutes watching Fox News could have come up with, but yet seems to think they have just discovered the wheel or something, and starts arrogantly demanding answers and demanding to be taken seriously, despite not having earned it one bit!:lol:

if one persond oesn't respect you, ignore them. if no-one respects you, it's because you haven't earned it. plenty of OIers get treated with more respect than you, and most threads don't get nearly as insulted as yours (despite often being much harsher to us than you are), so maybe you just come across as an idiot and really should quit whining when people tell you so.

here's a do: google for articles on the left in Britain and you will find tons of high quality analysis attempting to answer the questions you have asked. then come back and discuss them with us

here's a do not: show up demanding answers from us like you're owed something, having obviosuly not read anything by a marxist ever and showing no knowledge of the effects of economic and political developments over the past 40 years on the objective situation of the working class in Britain.

[Killfacer]

actually zurdito, it would seem you are wrong.

A. I dont care if you respect me, hate me or love me. I just want to discuss.
B. Actually of the 3 threads i have created they have all got 2+ pages because of the intense discussion (admittadly occasioanlly abusive but not usually) on the threads. It would seem that despite some people vitriolic hatred of me that people are interested in a discussion.
c. If your so bloody knowledable, then im sure you could quickly enlighten us. In the time you took to write that useless post which ended discussion you could of actually replied. Pathetic.
d. Im not hear to gain the respect of the likes of you, dodgy trotsky wierdos who can only air their stupid ideas here because nobody in the real world gives a fuck.

[Zurdito]

A. I dont care if you respect me, hate me or love me. I just want to discuss.

you seem to care a lot, because you keep whining about people insulting you and not discussing with you.




c. If your so bloody knowledable, then im sure you could quickly enlighten us. In the time you took to write that useless post which ended discussion you could of actually replied. Pathetic.


Actually no, the post took me about 30 seconds, to write you a worthwhile reply would take a lot longer, and you almost certainly aren't worth the effort. I thought you might be worth the effort of giving some advice to, but obviosuly not even that.


d. Im not hear to gain the respect of the likes of you, dodgy trotsky wierdos who can only air their stupid ideas here because nobody in the real world gives a fuck

well if you're not here to gain respect then you won't mind me adding to the chorus that says you are the most boring troll we've had here for ages.:lol:

[Mujer Libre]

or Communism. :D
Yeah, it's hard for a society that hasn't existed on a wide scale yet to get onto the scoresheet...

Sorry, but you fail at wit.

[Bud Struggle]

Yeah, it's hard for a society that hasn't existed on a wide scale yet to get onto the scoresheet...

Sorry, but you fail at wit.


That depends on who you talk to. Some say Communism exists, some say it doesn't. Some say it can never exist, some say it always has. Some say billions of people are Communists, some say none are. Some say thay saw Communism in Spain a while back, some say it was killed by the Communists in Spain not too long after that. Some wait for its inevitable arrivial, some say it came and went. Some say Marxism will be here tommorrow, some say Socialism is all you'll get.

Is that a better piece of wit? :D

[Kronos]

Killfacer, I'm going to give you a short synopsis of some events which have transpired in my life in the last fifteen years. I want you to tell me what you would do had these things happened to you.

1. I was expelled from a redirectional highschool for "troubled students" after defending myself from racist black people who attacked me. Rather than go to another shit school run by incompetent staff, I dropped out completely.

2. My father kicks me out of the house because of that.

3. I begin doing carpentry as an alternative to getting a degree.

4. During the time I was a carpenter, I was fired for calling myself an atheist, cheated out of the money owed to me several times, only to have to pay more than what was owed to sue my boss in court, and subjected to lower wage margins because of the diabolical immigration policy which on the surface appears to the world to be an attempt to "spread democratic rights to neighboring countries", but in reality is a ploy which serves only to import low wage workers so corporations can make higher profits while native workers are forced to compete with the immigrants, and injured my lower back and could not afford medical treatment, making my struggle at work even worse.

5. Involved in a car accident which was not my fault, resulting in the destruction of my truck, but required to pay the balance left owed even though the fucking truck ended up in the junk yard, refused to pay it out of principle, and suffered bad credit because of that.

6. Couldn't lease or rent an apartment because of my bad credit.

7. Was falsely diagnosed with having kidney stones because of some green thumb doctor fresh out of college who didn't know what the fuck he was talking about, and had to pay an outrageous medical bill. Didn't pay it. Credit continues to get worse.

8. Was forced to pay fines twice to get my tags renewed because the incompetent staff at the insurance office fucked up and reported a lapse in my insurance when there wasn't one.

9. Put into jail for fifty-one days for helping a runaway teenager from an abusive family, who did not receive help from social services.

These are only a few among many. I could go on and on. My point is this- everything that has happened to me has been the result of either stupid people making bad decisions, or contradicting systems which relentlessly force the working class into overwhelming dilemmas at every turn.

The solution to my problem is not starting my own business, or trying to have sympathy for these idiots. No. The solution is a complete destruction of the system and the emergence of a authoritarian state, so that there WOULD BE NO IDIOTS MAKING MISTAKES THAT COST ME AND OTHERS. In socialist system, none of these things would have happened. And again, these are only a few things. I could tell you more and blow your mind.

I answer only to those who have suffered more than me. Those who have not experienced the same problems are irrelevant. If you want to know the truth, you have to get your hands dirty.

Now, what would you do in my shoes?

If you want to argue that any of the instances I mentioned above are not directly related to the effects of the capitalist system, I will knock those arguments down as fast as you put them up.

You need only remember this. There are people who are not the least but concerned with the lives of capitalists, and who only share sympathy and compassion for those who have suffered the same. The capitalist class is alien to me. I would shoot one thousand capitalists to save the life of one retarded kid who works at McDonalds. That is how important capitalists are to me.

Do not mistake me as the guy who shouts "I'm a victim.....help me, help me!" No. I'm the guy who is thankful for his misfortune. You have no idea how justified I am in the destruction I have reaped, and will reap, across this country.