Nietzsche

[durdenisgod]

i feel really conflicted for being as red as possible, but also a big fan of nietzsche.
is it just me or are there more?

[Os Cangaceiros]

i feel really conflicted for being as red as possible, but also a big fan of nietzsche.
is it just me or are there more?

I'm a fan as well, to a certain degree.

[durdenisgod]

glad to see someone else here reads him.
im totally new to revleft.
is it at all like worldrepublic?

[Schrödinger's Cat]

glad to see someone else here reads him.
im totally new to revleft.
is it at all like worldrepublic?

World Republic?

Like any popular thinker, Nietzsche's contributions need to be taken with a gain of salt. His Germanic upbringings were not without the regular problems associated with the period. Unfortunately there is a myth in circulation that Nietzsche was an advocate for Nazi-style genocide, which I find unsupported by evidence.

[Niccolò Rossi]

is it at all like worldrepublic?

Better ;)

You might want to drop round to the introduction board and say hi if you haven't already.

[JDHURF]

There could not have possibly been a more virulently anti-socialist philosopher during the time than Nietzsche. I am fond of Nietzsche's The Anti-Christ and continuously attempt to read his Beyond Good and Evil - which I have read most of - yet I always come across, say, sexist bigotry against women or just plain arrogant insanity. His conception of ethics is pathological and that his philosophical work, taken to a logical extreme, gave birth to Aynn Rand and all of the bourgeois propaganda therein associated is no surprise.

I cannot for the life of me understand how any self-respecting leftist could embrace Nietzsche, a man who held such contempt for the common person. He alluded "habitually to ordinary human beings as the 'bungled and botched,' and sees no objection to their suffering if it is necessary for the production of a great man. Thus the whole importance of the period from 1789 to 1815 is summed up in Napoleon: 'The Revolution made Napoleon possible: that is its justification. We ought to desire the anarchical collapse of the whole of our civilization if such a reward were to be its result. Napoleon made nationalism possible: that is the latter's excuse." [quoted from The History of Western Philosophy by Bertrand Russell p. 762]

In fact, Nietzsche outright castigates socialism many times over again. "Everything that pampers, that softens, and that brings the 'people' or 'woman' to the front, operates in favour of universal suffrage - that is to say, the dominion of 'inferior' men." As Bertrand Russell says, the so-called seducer "was Rousseau, who made woman interesting; then came Harriet Beecher Stowe and the slaves; then the Socialists with their championship of workmen and the poor. All these are to be combated."

I can go on and on for pages about his vulgar bigotry against women, Socialism and many other things. Simply read his The Anti-Christ, it's rather short, and read his vulgar castigation of socialism for yourselves.

Again, I cannot for the life of me understand what it is in Nietzsche's work that any self-respecting leftist would embrace.

[Demogorgon]

World Republic?

Like any popular thinker, Nietzsche's contributions need to be taken with a gain of salt. His Germanic upbringings were not without the regular problems associated with the period. Unfortunately there is a myth in circulation that Nietzsche was an advocate for Nazi-style genocide, which I find unsupported by evidence.



It was his sister who went in for the genocide and as she finished his last work for him after he went mad that slipped in. There is no evidence of him believing in that.

That being said, Nietzsche is a load of crap. His views certainly are not compatible with socialism.

[Kronos]

Fritz is one of those philosophers who is interchangeable with just about anything. I could argue that his philosophy is a catalyst for revolution if I wanted, and I would bet that if he were alive today, he would hold modern capitalism in great contempt.

[black magick hustla]

I like Nietzche's attack against metaphysics, nationalism, and religion. There were various marxists of all strikes influenced by Nietzche to an extent, like Sartre.



In fact, Nietzsche outright castigates socialism many times over again. "Everything that pampers, that softens, and that brings the 'people' or 'woman' to the front, operates in favour of universal suffrage - that is to say, the dominion of 'inferior' men."

I think there is a kernel of truth in Nietzhe's disdain for the "weak", and his embrace of what he called "life-affirming" and "Dyonisian". Perhaps he was a bit distasteful sometimes, but I don't think communist politics should be pity-based politics, i.e., the weak deserve the world because they are in pain - and weak. Instead of affirming ourselves through our pain, I think we should embrace instead our will to power and our will to live.

[durdenisgod]

it was his sister who was an advocate for genocide.
however he is still one of the greats in my opinon, but as said his work needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
one does not have to be agrue with every view to be a fan.
that being said he was an idealist, which doesnt mix with marxism.
but im a big fan regardless.
the anti christ and the gay science are probably some of the most brilliant things ever written, in my opinion, of course.

[durdenisgod]

World Republic?






its a forum site that is pretty righteous.

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i highly recommend scoping it.
its how i found revleft >.<

[Bud Struggle]

its a forum site that is pretty righteous.

worldrepublic.forumotion.com

i highly recommend scoping it.


DAMN!!!! Now thems are COMMIES!

Just checked it out--Makes you RevLefters seem positively "third way." :laugh: