Whoever says that communist dictatorships are good is crazy.

[BatistaNationalista]

Those who say that communists dictatorships are good is because they havent live in one yet.
i have discussed this issue a hundred times with communists all over the world, and im tired of discussing it, but here i go again:

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If Cuba is so great, then why do the people risk their lifes in the sea with crappy rafts to go to Miami to escape from the repression and the misery and povertY?

If Cuba is so great then why do people there is starving? And dont blame the USA embrago because Cuba treat turists like kings while the people is dying, and the leaders of the communist party are rich and eat a lot and can go outside of the country, while the people isnt allowed to go out.

If Cuba is so great and the marxism-leninism there is so succesfully then why do the people there is poor and the leaders including Fidel Castro are rich and living the lives of like a "monarchy". I also have to say that Fidel Castro is the most richiest Cuban of all times, and before being a guerilla-man he never worked. So how the *** did he do to get that rich??? The answer is obvious.

If Cuba is so great then why do people there die of diseases that can be easily cure? The embargo? i dont think so, because Cuba exports medicines and crap, but then why doesnt Fidel use those medicines to his people? i know why, it is because of the propaganga he wants to export.

If Cuba is so great then why does Fidel Castro wasted the Cuban money on arms and weapons and guerrillas to export the cuban revolution in the 60's. I as a latin person know very well of the latin american history, and a lot of countries here were full of guerrillas sponsored by Fidel Castro, then why did he used the money and resources to this guerrillas and why didnt he used it for the good of its own people? Also he expanded those guerrillas in Africa too.

If Cuba is so great then why does it's marxist-leninist goverment has the record of the most violatory of human rights in latin america?

If Cuba is so great and the socialist-communism-marxism-leninism regime there is so successfully why doesnt Fidel allow free elections or free press or freedom of speech there?

Thats all about Cuba, lets go to the other examples...
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If North Korea is so great then why do the people there is starving?

If The Soviet Union and its communist were the way the world should be then why did it collapsed?

Why did eastern europe countries liberated themselves of their communist regime? isnt communism the great ideology of the equality?

If capitalism is evil and communism is divine then why does North Korea sucks and why does South Korea is so damn successfully?

How many people were executed in Cambodia due to their communism?

Well i got so many examples of why communism sucks but ill just stop here and wait for answers.

[PunkRawker677]

You have posted this same thread about eight times during different times of this year.. you also posted the same garbage on Russia.com.. go away..

the members on this board dont "refresh"... we are still the same people who debated this exact thread a million times with you before.. I believe even the capitalists here will agree with me that there is no need to ressurect this topic and start a new thread.. if you want to, go to the old thread and add something on..

you are wasting Malte's time and space..

[Hattori Hanzo]

"Those who say that communists dictatorships are good is because they havent live in one yet.
i have discussed this issue a hundred times with communists all over the world, and im tired of discussing it, but here i go again: "
were're tired too, mutha fucka
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"If Cuba is so great, then why do the people risk their lifes in the sea with crappy rafts to go to Miami to escape from the repression and the misery and povertY?"

they don't. instead the leave legally eaach year to the us by plane

"If Cuba is so great then why do people there is starving? And dont blame the USA embrago because Cuba treat turists like kings while the people is dying, and the leaders of the communist party are rich and eat a lot and can go outside of the country, while the people isnt allowed to go out."

this is fucking bullshit. people in cuba arne't starving any more than any other latin american country (probably less)

"If Cuba is so great and the marxism-leninism there is so succesfully then why do the people there is poor and the leaders including Fidel Castro are rich and living the lives of like a "monarchy". I also have to say that Fidel Castro is the most richiest Cuban of all times, and before being a guerilla-man he never worked. So how the *** did he do to get that rich??? The answer is obvious."
this is bullshit. US propaganda. pure bullshit

"If Cuba is so great then why do people there die of diseases that can be easily cure? The embargo? i dont think so, because Cuba exports medicines and crap, but then why doesnt Fidel use those medicines to his people? i know why, it is because of the propaganga he wants to export."

Fuck your stupidity! Cuba has the lowest aids rate in latin america, mabey even 2nd in the western hemisphere! it's barely topped by America

"If Cuba is so great then why does Fidel Castro wasted the Cuban money on arms and weapons and guerrillas to export the cuban revolution in the 60's. I as a latin person know very well of the latin american history, and a lot of countries here were full of guerrillas sponsored by Fidel Castro, then why did he used the money and resources to this guerrillas and why didnt he used it for the good of its own people? Also he expanded those guerrillas in Africa too."

To set up a sphere of countries which trade with cuba, helping the people

"If Cuba is so great then why does it's marxist-leninist goverment has the record of the most violatory of human rights in latin america?"

because America wrote the records

"If Cuba is so great and the socialist-communism-marxism-leninism regime there is so successfully why doesnt Fidel allow free elections or free press or freedom of speech there?"

i don't know. i think Fidel should resign

"Thats all about Cuba, lets go to the other examples..."
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no, that's all about US propaganda

"If North Korea is so great then why do the people there is starving?"

NK isn't great

"If The Soviet Union and its communist were the way the world should be then why did it collapsed?"

it wasn't communist

"Why did eastern europe countries liberated themselves of their communist regime? isnt communism the great ideology of the equality?"

they has soviet regimes=oligarchies

"If capitalism is evil and communism is divine then why does North Korea sucks and why does South Korea is so damn successfully?"

LOL, LOL man! they both suck!

"How many people were executed in Cambodia due to their communism?"

you mean their dictatorship
"Well i got so many examples of why communism sucks but ill just stop here and wait for answers."

[Hattori Hanzo]

wasted my time, but i hope you learned something

[Hattori Hanzo]

anything to say?

[Hattori Hanzo]

GiVE UP?

oh, and by the way, Batista was a horible dictator, who cared nothing for his people

[Red Revolution]

Whoever says RIGHT-WING dictatorships are good is crazy

- LOL Up yours Batista (my sworn enemy)

[Hattori Hanzo]

Quote: from Red Revolution on 9:08 pm on July 19, 2002
Whoever says RIGHT-WING dictatorships are good is crazy

- LOL Up yours Batista (my sworn enemy)
exactly

[ComradeJunichi]

Uh...Hattori, you said...

LOL North Korea and South Korea both suck! (thats not the exact quote but similar)

And North Korea have many, many starving people living under a dictatorship. BUT, South Korea does not suck. Have you ever visited South Korea? South Korea does not suck. Their economy is doing perfect, very industrialized.
I find it offensive that you say that South Korea sucks. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you have evidence to back it up...But from what I know South Korea does not 'suck'

[Michael De Panama]

Fuck all dictatorships. That includes Batista's.

[Mazdak]

LOL, even peopel who hate Castro for the most part either dont know who batista is or hate him. Batista was scum who let mafia run the country(along with the US). his country was so segregated he himself was alowed in the country's clubs!!(being half black)

He cared nothing for the people and the police and army were brutal. To say Fidel is evil for doing these things is stupid, the person you seem to worship is 10X worse then Fidel could ever be.

Viva FIDEL!!

[Guest]

And you think Cuba is not segregated now? Very segregated, only that now ALL of the cubans are segregated. Everything is special for tourists, tourists can access places in Cuba that Cubans can't!. In Cuba is one of those few places in the World where is actually better to be a foreigner than a national, you have more rights! The holly dollar reigns in Cuba.

And Castro cares nothing for the people. Does he cares for what Cubans think? No, if he did he would call for free elections (and by doing so not only will he know what Cubans think and let Cubans decide, but also would end the Embargo). But he doesn't care, it's only what he thinks that matters. He's holding on to power without giving a damn if the Cubans want him there or not.

[peaccenicked]

''History of the U.S. Blockade of Cuba
For almost four decades, the United States has maintained an economic blockade against our Caribbean neighbor, the island nation of Cuba. The blockade was originally rationalized on the basis that Cuba was a threat to U.S. national security. Cuba's expropriation of U.S. property following their1959 revolution, subsequent alliance with the Soviet Union, and support for armed revolutionary forces in Latin America and Africa, are a few of the reasons cited.

Now however, as we approach the millennium, the political situation has entirely changed. The Cold War has been over for ten years; the Soviet Union no longer exists, the U.S. has normal trade and diplomatic relations with all the countries of the former Eastern bloc, and in fact, has granted the largest Communist country, China, its Most Favored Nation status.

Struggling with its own economic problems, Cuba no longer has the capacity to support armed revolution abroad. In fact, according to one Center for Defense Information Study, Cuba spends on its military in one year what the U.S. spends in ten hours. Yet, with two successive acts of Congress, the Cuba Democracy Act of 1992 and the Helms Burton Act of 1996, both signed into law by President Clinton, the U.S. has tightened the blockade against Cuba.

While politicians persist with failed policies, the lives of people in Cuba are made increasingly difficult and U.S. citizens are denied the opportunity to study first hand one of the only models of alternative economic development in the hemisphere.

In each of the last seven years, the United Nations has condemned the U.S. blockade of Cuba, most recently by a vote of 157-2. In addition, major human rights organizations, including those inside Cuba, call for an end to the blockade. Clearly, a U.S. policy that encourages dialogue with Cuba, at both governmental and grassroots levels, is long overdue. And yet, in defiance of any sense of reason or proportion, the U.S. blockade of Cuba is continually reinforced, tightened and codified.''
from global exchange.



(Edited by peaccenicked at 4:31 am on July 20, 2002)