Homosexualty - Opinions

[Power1]

I've got an impression your quite supportive of gays in genarel. Isn't this agaisnt communist opininon? It's banned in Cuba and the founders of communism were agaisin it weren't they. What are your opinions anyway?

[Nic8]

I am in total support of gay rights. I think it kind of defeats the purpose of being a socialist if you are homophobic. Homophobia is a form of racism and as progressive people, we must fight against racism.

[American Kid]

You're a homophobic piece of shit and you suck.

-Kid

[Michael De Panama]

It's not my business to tell someone who they should fuck.

[Supermodel]

Homosexuality is a fact of life and a personal matter. Socialists may be gay or straight, socilaists may be homophobes or tolerant. Why mix sex and politics?

[Anonymous]

Becuase a large part of politics is about sex, take the example in Britain where there is constant debate about whether to change the age of consent for straight and gay people. Like it or not, anything which plays a large part in peoples lives will eventually be brought into politics.

[Nateddi]

I support economic equality for homosexuals.

Homosexual issues and communism should IMO have no correlation with each other. Communism is about workers' struggle not special rights for gay people. I am completely okay with gay people, however I don't support special rights given to them. I am against gay pride parades just as I am against straight pride parades. Your sexuality is your personal thing, don't go showing it off because you know some people get offended and kill, and I will not put them away for longer time for hate crime for that.

[marxistdisciple]

Why should I care about who people have sex with?

What's that got to do with communism? I don't remember any mention of sexuality in the manifesto. It is completely unrelated to a system of government.

[Nickademus]

i'm for gay rights....lgbts are simply fellow human beings. and just because the fathers of communism say homosexuality is wrong doesn't mean we have to accept that.....its called evolution

[Anonymous]

Yeh, equality for all.

[alphaq]

Quote: from Nateddi on 8:03 pm on July 17, 2002
I support economic equality for homosexuals.

...I am against gay pride parades just as I am against straight pride parades...


Are you against straight pride parades? This society that we live in is a continual parade of expression of heterosexual pride- from movies to magazine ads to billboards, etc. We are affronted with heterosexuality everywhere we look. If heterosexuals should be allowed to do this, then certainly homosexuals should too.

[Mazdak]

But if heterosexuals do it, it is considered homophobia- they are saying they are better than gays. neither should be allowed. It is like having a white pride parade.

[Red Revolution]

I didn't know Cuba banned homosexuality and Engles and Marx as with Lenin took no action against them. If you have evidence i'd like to see it power 1.
I agree with Michael and Nic8. homophobia is a racist feeling and I really don't care who people have relationships with.

[Moskitto]

I find it hard to see how the "founders" of communism could have been against homosexuality since all the arguements against homosexuality are based on religious dogma which the "founders" of communism were very much against.

I think it's impossible to be atheist and homophobic at the same time for this reason. And generally those who are tend to be fascists and are not worth keeping alive.

[Felicia]

A good friend of mine is gay and he is the funniest dude I have ever met!! (with regards to his homosexuality). I'm all for equal rights, homosexuality has been around forever, (after all what do you think was really going on in those all male Roman bath houses ;) ). Who are politicians to decide who we can and can't marry, it's rediculous. As long as there are people willing to shack up for the purpose of procreation, it's all good :)

[Ian]

Homosexuality is fine with me and I think that rights should be given such as right to marry, right to foster children (and perhaps adopt if they wish).

Power1: Homosexuality is not banned in Cuba, don't bullshit

[Nateddi]

Quote: from alphaq on 9:14 pm on July 17, 2002

Are you against straight pride parades? This society that we live in is a continual parade of expression of heterosexual pride- from movies to magazine ads to billboards, etc. We are affronted with heterosexuality everywhere we look. If heterosexuals should be allowed to do this, then certainly homosexuals should too.


What are you talking about? We have too much homosexuality in our media? Have you ever watched MTV? Gay shows and Gay pride parades are all special interest, which communism is against. Communism's only interest is the working class regardless of sexual affiliation.

I think homosexuality is banned in Cuba just as it was in the USSR. I would like some facts proving it, but thats probably the case. I never saw cuba have a gay pride parade, but than they never check to see who you sleep with, it has nothign to do with the society.

(Edited by Nateddi at 11:34 pm on July 17, 2002)

[Capitalist Imperial]

I don't know why people care

[Avamatha]

Well, if it makes them happy, then why the hell not? Why is it so bad to be happy?

LOL, in Finland we just had a law, that gays could get married. Of course, this was a big thing. It was all over the newspapers. Some old lady wrote, that it's a sin, because Bible tells so, and that it's a fact, that gaysexuals spread cancer.

It's a good thing that cancers spread so easilly.... ;)
(You know, it doesn't do that.)

Hey, Jesus himself had 12 disclipses, all of them men!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Avamatha on 12:55 am on July 18, 2002
Well, if it makes them happy, then why the hell not? Why is it so bad to be happy?

LOL, in Finland we just had a law, that gays could get married. Of course, this was a big thing. It was all over the newspapers. Some old lady wrote, that it's a sin, because Bible tells so, and that it's a fact, that gaysexuals spread cancer.

It's a good thing that cancers spread so easilly.... ;)
(You know, it doesn't do that.)

Hey, Jesus himself had 12 disclipses, all of them men!

Finland...

Care to Tango?

[Guest]

I agree with most of everything Nateddi posted, I still personally believe homosexuality is a mental disorder, and its been proven that a homosexual can become straight with enough psychiatric therapy, maybe a straight can become gay, I wouldn't know, I didn't research that, I'm not here to contradict myself, am I now? Homosexuals are not intended to exist, they SHOULD'NT exist according to nature, homosexuals can't reproduce and part of life is reproducing.

[ID2002]

Actually, homesexual behaviour does exist in nature as a way of population control. Research has been done on this before...sorry Guest...your wrong on this one.

[Guest]

I figured the problems with human and mass epidemics would be better population control than mentally defected people.

[Shyne]

basic nature shows that the penis is supposed to go in the vagina, therefore, man and female should be together. i have no further comment at this moment.

*cries*

[Brian]

I'm board!

(Edited by Brian at 9:35 pm on July 17, 2002)

[Guest]

I think Homosexulity is pervered and sick and unnatrul.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from Mazdak on 3:41 pm on July 17, 2002
But if heterosexuals do it, it is considered homophobia- they are saying they are better than gays. Neither should be allowed. It is like having a white pride parade.


Since when do we (GLBT=me being bi) claim to be better than straight people? If you think that's the point of a gay pride parade, than you have no clue.

Since when does GLBT people have any say in how they are viewed by society? Since when do GLBT people even make up close to the majority of the population? I have met many Gays and lesbians that wanted to isolate themselves from straight society. However, I have never, ever, met anyone in the GLBT society to say they are above any straight person! That is a nearsighted bigoted comment.

That's as is saying that it's ok to be Puerto Rican. As long as you keep it to yourself, and don't admit it in public.

You can't very well hide your nationality can you? However, you can hide your sexual orientation and GLBT people have been doing this for a very long time.

Gay pride marches are about breaking that barrier and making it as acceptable to be homosexual, as it is to be a Negro, Native American, or... god forbid... even a straight white male...

[Brian]

Homsexulty is sick,perverted,and dead wrong.


Well thats my opinion,I could be wrong.

[kidicarus20]

I think christianity is sick perverted and wrong.

Homosexuality is really no one's business other than the people who partake in it.
Chrisitanity is unnatural, and based on lies greed and hate, i think chrisitans need to overcome their hate.

[Sasafrás]

Quote: from kidicarus20 on 9:54 pm on July 17, 2002
I think christianity is sick perverted and wrong...
Chrisitanity is unnatural, and based on lies greed and hate, i think chrisitans need to overcome their hate. No offense, dude, but I think you should overcome yours as well. Sure, VERY many Christians are hateful, homophobic, and stupid, but not all. Don't stereotype. Open your mind a bit, I've known a lot of really accepting & open-minded Christians. I guess it is more difficult to find the decent Christians in the Bible-Belt, though. Whatever.

Homosexuality? It doesn't bother me much at all. Oh yeah, but remember, my name is Rainbeaux... ;)

(Edited by La Rainbeaux at 10:04 pm on July 17, 2002)

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from La Rainbeaux on 10:02 pm on July 17, 2002

Quote: from kidicarus20 on 9:54 pm on July 17, 2002
I think christianity is sick perverted and wrong...
Chrisitanity is unnatural, and based on lies greed and hate, i think chrisitans need to overcome their hate. No offense, dude, but I think you should overcome yours as well. Sure, VERY many Christians are hateful, homophobic, and stupid, but not all. Don't stereotype. Open your mind a bit, I've known a lot of really accepting & open-minded Christians. I guess it is more difficult to find the decent Christians in the Bible-Belt, though. Whatever.

Homosexuality? It doesn't bother me much at all. Oh yeah, but remember, my name is Rainbeaux... ;)

(Edited by La Rainbeaux at 10:04 pm on July 17, 2002)


Yea! that's right! Wave that Rainbow flag rain baby!.. lol


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[abstractmentality]

personally, why would i care who another chooses to be with? why would one want to cut their chances of meeting that one special person (for all those hopeless romantics) by about 50% by immediatley eliminating half the population? to ban or attempt to eliminate, or think that you can fix homosexuality is absurd. just because you may not agree with it, doesnt make it wrong.

[libereco]

So what if some of you think homosexuality is "perverted"?

I personally don't think so. I think that love is very natural.

But what you people need to learn is to be tolerant of people with a different lifestyle.

You know, regarding to sexuality, there are so many twisted things going on. You have people pissing and shitting on each other, beating each other up and whatnot. Would everyone do that? No. But does that matter?

As long as all participants consent I don't see how it's anybody elses buisness what the hell they are doing. When they ask you for you opinion you may state it, but trying to forbid them to live their life is just a wee bit to close to fascism for my taste.

Hell I think eating seefood is disgusting, you don't see me trying to ban it, do you?

Once more I'll spell it out for you T-O-L-E-R-A-N-C-E.

[Nateddi]

"You know, regarding to sexuality, there are so many twisted things going on. You have people pissing and shitting on each other, beating each other up and whatnot."

LOL great quote

[Avamatha]

Finland...

Care to Tango?


I was like "huh?"

[Guest]

Let me remind you that a GOOD christian is racist, sexist and homophobic, god condemned, according the bible, gays all the time, he caused everyone's genitalia in sodom and gemorra, to fall off, ouch eh? Even the straight people, then he killed everyone in them. The first black man, according the bible, was created when Noah's son (or nephew, I only remember the passages story, I haven't read it in a while) was caught staring at Noah's dick. And we must not forget, the women led man into temptation and caused the exile of mankind from the garden.

So if you wanna be a good christian, be closed minded.

[alphaq]

To whoever said Cuba banned homosexuality... I was in Havana last june where they had a Gay festival. Also, I think a gay pride parade is no different than a million man march or any other parade. In all cases oppressed people showing their solidarity at the face of tremendous opposition. I also can't see why anyone whould even care what anyone else does unless it directly affects them.

[Power1]

I had heard Cuba banned homosexualty from some other people. I wasn't really sure. I am tolerant of homosexuals who keep their activies in their homes and keep their orientation hidden. The thing that i really hate is public displays of homosexualty.

I personally find homosexualty sickening and unnatural behaviour but i don't mind if there are no publuc displays of it.

Moskitto why the hell is homophoba a racist thing? Most people i know are homophobic but the majority arn't racist.

[peaccenicked]

power1
I love giving fascist closet homosexuals one right up the arse, get your vaseline ready.

[Guest]

Quote: from Guest on 1:57 pm on July 18, 2002
he caused everyone's genitalia in sodom and gemorra, to fall off, ouch eh?


i thought they just burnt to death. nice imagination, though.

[Guest]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 2:47 pm on July 18, 2002
power1
I love giving fascist closet homosexuals one right up the arse, get your vaseline ready.


I'm not a fag you queer bastard.

[peaccenicked]

denial, neither am I

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from Guest on 3:08 pm on July 18, 2002

Quote: from peaccenicked on 2:47 pm on July 18, 2002
power1
I love giving fascist closet homosexuals one right up the arse, get your vaseline ready.


I'm not a fag you queer bastard.


there is a difference between a fag and a queer.

A queer is just a muthafucka whos gay

A Fag is a limp wristed flamming sissy.

I aint go no problems with gay people its those fags I hate,

I mena damn just cuz you gay that don't mean you gotta act like a pansy

[STALINSOLDIERS]

i think homosexual should be allowed like most say it aint our problem to judge what someone likes....if one person doesnt like what another is doing well just walk away its none of your buisness...

[Brian]

I think you may need to go back to grade school STALINSOLDIERS,cuz you grammar is pretty poor.

[STALINSOLDIERS]

***** your mom needs some grammer....

[Brian]

Wow, great come back.Idiot.

[RAM]

I think its alright. Wh should they be made to felll bad for something that they feel?

(Edited by RAM at 10:07 pm on July 18, 2002)

[Mazdak]

Why was power 1 banned??

[Michael De Panama]

Most Nazis don't really need to be here, Mazdak.

[MC]

Michael i'm not a nazi. I think i've said this many times before.

[Edelweiss]

It doesn't matter how you decribe yourself, power1. What you are stating here is Nazi rhetoric at it's worst.

[Hattori Hanzo]

uh, what do nazis have to do with it?

[Moskitto]

Michael i'm not a nazi. I think i've said this many times before.


Gee, that's a very clever post, isn't it.

[Guest]

Children aren't born with prejudice. It's down to their forefathers to teach them tolerance and I thought that's what it was all about. You can't call yourself a socialist if you have issues with gays or bisexuals. Who's business is it anyway. What about freedom of choice?

[Mazdak]

Wow, that is like two bannings in two days....

and Michael- I meant what did he say, was it a specific post or just his whole being here??

[Guest]

Malte why the fuck have i been banned. Was it for a specfic post or for my views?

Malte what nazi rhetoric have i given out? I asked for communist oppinions on homosexualty. I was just intrested in your views.

I'm not a Nazi and my views on immigration and homosexualty are mainstream. I support a stop to all immigration and voluntary reparition. I agree with some nazi ideas but so do 46% of your own population. I disagree with a lot of what the nazis did.

Power1

[Moskitto]

You have been banned because you have failed the nazi test.

1. You asked "If the white race isn't superior, explain why Africa wasn't as advanced as Europe?"

2. You admitted on annother forum that you are a racist, This is the same reason as what lead to TS's ban.

3. Why is it that only you seem to care about someone ranting about putting people into microwave ovens? None of the capitalists mentioned it, hey, they could have said, see he's communist oppression, but no, they didn't care. Only you seemed to care.

4. You said "Hitler was good, he saved the world from communism"

5. Your views are not mainstream, they follow the line of the BNP, a nazi party.

Basically, you failed the test.

[RGacky3]

WHY THE HELL IS TS BANNED, He is not a rasist, you would know this if you talked to him, he never made a rasist comment. He was banned becouse he called Malte a dipshit, and becouse Malte does'nt like him, I think Malte should pull his head out of his ass and let the Stalinists back.

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from RGacky3 on 8:02 pm on July 20, 2002
WHY THE HELL IS TS BANNED, He is not a rasist, you would know this if you talked to him, he never made a rasist comment. He was banned becouse he called Malte a dipshit, and becouse Malte does'nt like him, I think Malte should pull his head out of his ass and let the Stalinists back.

Banning interracial marrage & racial segrigation is racist.

[Mazdak]

Gacky- although i dont think they should be banned, saying things like that about Malte are begging for a banning(what you said)...

[Guest]

Moskitto

1. What is wrong with this question?

2. Which forum did i admit i was a racist on?

3. Can you clafiry what you are saying.

4. I would prefer to live under a NS regime than a communist regime and if Hitler hadn't come to power that probably would have happened. I only ment he was good for stopping communism which is something i hate.

5. I support the BNP i admit. There are becoming a mainstream party and they are definatly not a nazi party. 58% of scottish people agree with the BNP's immigration policy thus making my opininon mainstream.

Power1

[marxistdisciple]

Yeah why not become completely xenophobic and stop all immigration. What about when someone marries a brit, are they not allowed to emigrate? What about when someone is born in Britain and moves abroad, are they British or not. The BNP constitutes stupid badly thought out opinions which bear no logic. they don't even have proper policies bar doing racist things. The places where they get the votes are the places they had the racist riots. The same places where stupid people like you should stay under a stone until you have been educated enough to make logical statements.

It's about people with different opinions and different experiences and tollerating them. You are just too closed minded to see things from other people's point of view. And yes, you do have nazi like tendancies. The BNP are as close to a Nazi party as the UK has.

[Guest]

Quote: from marxistdisciple on 12:25 am on July 22, 2002
Yeah why not become completely xenophobic and stop all immigration. What about when someone marries a brit, are they not allowed to emigrate? What about when someone is born in Britain and moves abroad, are they British or not. The BNP constitutes stupid badly thought out opinions which bear no logic. they don't even have proper policies bar doing racist things. The places where they get the votes are the places they had the racist riots. The same places where stupid people like you should stay under a stone until you have been educated enough to make logical statements.

It's about people with different opinions and different experiences and tollerating them. You are just too closed minded to see things from other people's point of view. And yes, you do have nazi like tendancies. The BNP are as close to a Nazi party as the UK has.

The BNP has sensible policy on all issues. Go to there website and find out for your self. You are also accusing BNP people of being stupid. There are many middle class professionals who vote for the BNP and Griffin was educated at Cambridge so there are a lot of intelligant people with pro white beliefs.

What's wrong with stopping immigration anyway? The vast majority of immigrants are economic and the majority want it stopped so it should be stopped.

Power1

[Moskitto]

The BNP creates racial tensions because it drives people to hold extremist views, like the BNP's.

It's one of the things that genocidal murderers do, they remove moderates to promote hatred.

And The BNP does not have sensible policies. They want "repatriation" and say that people would agree if there countries were more developed, yet the complain about foreign aid to Afghanistan.


Tell me, If the white race isn't superior, then why was Africa less developed than Europe when we went there?

[Mazdak]

stopping immigration? I have seen problems like these here in New York. Alot of people here think there are to many asian people in New York compared wiht everyone else. I personally think that we should simply have a set limit on how many people from each country immigrate here, so the country stays mixed.