cappies - are we just hipocrits??

[Carl]

If we are commies and believe in equality then even in capitolists are doing wrong and hurting innocent people they are still equal. am i rite? don't get me wrong im a commie but everyone is equal even if they are capitolists.

Fuck Ariel Sharon

[Capitalist Imperial]

equality? or mediocrity? lack of freedom, no self determination

[Michael De Panama]

But everyone is NOT equal, in this capitalist world. Some are richer than others. Some have more power than others. Some have more freedom than others. Our goal is equality.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Michael De Panama on 7:53 pm on July 11, 2002
But everyone is NOT equal, in this capitalist world. Some are richer than others. Some have more power than others. Some have more freedom than others. Our goal is equality.

We cant all be equal, that is not how life is, your goal is counter-intuitive to the progression of mankind. Only through competition, the hallmark of life, can the best ideas be generated and are people appropiately rewarded for what they do.

Otherwise we stagnate.

[Michael De Panama]

Then in that case, would you say that we are primitive for not playing a greater role in the survival-of-the-fittest atmosphere in Central American jungles?

If the greatest technological achievements come through competitive war-like environments, what is the goal of all these technological achievements? Obviously, peace. What you propose is that we devolve as a species who has already far surpassed the rest of the animal world, in order to evolve our technology.

To be "rewarded for what you do" is not uncommunistic. The thing is, we want to reward everyone equally, while you want to reward those who crack the whips the most.

[Carl]

sadly yes this is true...we think we are an equal world but wey're not...everyone is different; if your black,white,pink,fat,thin,capitalist,socialist, or anything you are differnet to someone else in this world...can we do anything to stop this? sadly no..we cant change who we are and even if we did we would still be differentr...but what we can do is just accept it and get on with our live....spread the word....peace out!

[Supermodel]

I don't think communism is fundamentally about equality. It's more about a higher consciousness of society as a whole rather than your individual needs.

Since individual needs vary by individual, we will never be identical. Equality strives for the identical, and that is what pushes all joy out of many socialist states.

Even if people were put on an equal footing from a wealth standpoint (an impossible task.....what does the widow get versus the family of ten?) they would still be unequal.

Wealth is only one major element of society. To be obsessed with it is to miss the true holistic sense of being human.

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 7:59 pm on July 11, 2002

Quote: from Michael De Panama on 7:53 pm on July 11, 2002
But everyone is NOT equal, in this capitalist world. Some are richer than others. Some have more power than others. Some have more freedom than others. Our goal is equality.

We cant all be equal, that is not how life is, your goal is counter-intuitive to the progression of mankind. Only through competition, the hallmark of life, can the best ideas be generated and are people appropiately rewarded for what they do.

Otherwise we stagnate.



so are you saying that you are a cappie because we can't al be equal? So if we could be equal you would be a socialist?

When you say stagnate what that really means is that the rich wasps on the top wont have us minorities to slave for them anymore.

This whole system has raped and enslaved my races culture and history. And you approve of it?

This system makes sure that no matter how sucessful my children are they will never be totally equal.

"When your white the skies the limit, when your black the limits the sky" -Chris Rock

and we all know the statement is true.

as long as this system continues racism will never cease to be.

[Carl]

Spread the word commerades!

[Michael De Panama]

I love the signiture, Carl.

It looks like Cappie Imperial has weasled his way out of yet another tricky situation.

[Lardlad95]

so ci wont be answering my post?

[Brian]

It's Micheal De Panama, Malte's personal ass kisser.

[Michael De Panama]

Ass kisser? I think there are a lot bigger ass kissers than me. I don't know where that's coming from, buddy.

[Brian]

Lies!

[komsomol]

Communism is more about justice than equality. Equality is just the assumed product of justice. In terms of the actuall human being, we are not all equal, but nodody can prove or dis-prove that they are better than somebody since the measurements involved would include every possible human ability and would finally be terribly unreliable due to sub-jective measuring.

(Edited by MOLOCH at 3:43 pm on July 15, 2002)

[Nateddi]

Carl,

Why did you make this pointless thread? Learn how to ask normal questions, spell "right", "hypocrite" and "capitalists" correctly; maybe than CI will take you more seriously.

(Edited by Nateddi at 3:15 am on July 16, 2002)

[Lardlad95]

Quote: from MOLOCH on 3:42 pm on July 15, 2002
Communism is more about justice than equality. Equality is just the assumed product of justice. In terms of the actuall human being, we are not all equal, but nodody can prove or dis-prove that they are better than somebody since the measurements involved would include every possible human ability and would finally be terribly unreliable due to sub-jective measuring.

(Edited by MOLOCH at 3:43 pm on July 15, 2002)



well mainly we were reffering to economic equality

[Michael De Panama]

Brian, I don't even think I've talked directly to Malte in the time you've been here. I don't kiss anyone's ass. Couldn't you give me a more appropriate insulting award title thingy? Something I knew you spent time thinking up, you know? It would mean a lot more to me, man.