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ckaihatsu
17th April 2008, 23:07
(Note: I'm posting this to 'Politics' since I made three attempts to post it as a reply to the original article in the 'Articles' section but it didn't show up.)



Not really. RevLeft is one of MANY providers of the "revolutionary news service," including individuals scattered on Indymedia. That is why working-class folks can't seem to catch up.

That's why I said "it is crucial to have a singular revolutionary news service encompassing news coverage, analysis, and both bulletin and video discussions." This is analoguous to the singular Iskra.


The numerous providers of revolutionary news is not necessarily a bad thing, in my opinion, Jacob -- the diversity of revolutionary and leftist outlets on the net can reflect the multiplicity of local efforts, and of the cross-connections made at higher levels of policy, or policies-in-the-waiting.

One could speak of the revolutionary vanguard as being dispersed over a number of more timely leftist sites, and that's actually the reason I have such a longish .signature attachment, to reflect a diversity of web sites that I consider to be in the fore of the struggle and/or useful.

Obviously no one can "catch-up" in the sense of reading the content from *all* leftist-oriented websites, on a continuous basis -- that's certainly not the point of revolutionary leadership anyway. Again, I think a certain subset of the updates from a number of leftist outlets will provide the substance of a vanguard -- certain issues come to the fore at any given moment because of their political relevance.

Working-class folks shouldn't seek to "catch-up" -- they should seek to be knowledgeable with the issues of the day, and with the politics underlying those issues. That's what distributes leadership over a mass base within the working class.

Die Neue Zeit
18th April 2008, 04:19
^^^ You should be able to reply now. The board's deletion problem has been solved.

In regards to the subject of hand, that diversity can be OK, but there needs to be a centralized database to say the least. Iskra was both a news-and-analysis source as well as a database in its time.

We cannot have multiple databases for revolutionaries. Otherwise, we might as well forget the vanguard party concept. :(

ckaihatsu
18th April 2008, 06:12
^^^ You should be able to reply now. The board's deletion problem has been solved.


Thanks, Jacob -- I just hit reply, so I'll continue with the thread here, if that's all right.



In regards to the subject of hand, that diversity can be OK, but there needs to be a centralized database to say the least. Iskra was both a news-and-analysis source as well as a database in its time.

We cannot have multiple databases for revolutionaries. Otherwise, we might as well forget the vanguard party concept. :(


I'm convinced -- I've changed my .signature accordingly, and I'll be promoting RevLeft as much as I can.


Chris



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Die Neue Zeit
20th April 2008, 02:19
^^^ I wasn't referring to RevLeft, though (although it's the best). DrFreeman09 made his case regarding the non-partisan RevLeft in my submission thread (so you might as well go there instead :p ;) :D ).

ckaihatsu
21st April 2008, 00:06
So I think the problem is not necessarily that there are many news services, but that not one of them is actively working to resolve the crisis of theory through not only the presentation of revolutionary news, but through open debate and the experience of the workers in class struggle in the context of a revolutionary organization.


(Jacob, I'm posting here again because I was unable to post at the original thread.)


Dr. Freeman, all,

More and more union locals now have their own blogs, with posting capabilities open to the membership. Perhaps those would be appropriate venues for local, worker-struggle-oriented issues to be hashed out for each workplace and local -- hopefully the same process could be tiered upwards to enable a bottom-up generalizing process. And, hopefully, RevLeft could serve as an umbrella forum for more actual worker-organizing activities like these...?


Chris



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Die Neue Zeit
21st April 2008, 00:24
^^^ Actually, I can see this post of yours in the Article Submission thread. You've also got a PM. ;)