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Stormin Norman
4th July 2002, 11:31
A Timeless American Hero


"Samuel Adams, brewer, patriot”. In this age where patriotism can be defined as beer, football and paying taxes it is no surprise that a beer label best identifies this true American hero. His biographer says, when abuses of power were to be resisted, he would have been one of the reformers.” If Samuel Adams were alive today rest assure he would be a proponent for individual liberties because he was a man of impeccable character and would fight to end government oppression in any era.
One of twelve children, Sam was born (1722) to a prominent family in Quincy, Mass.. At age 21 he was well on his way to revolutionary action when he proposed the following thesis, as a student at Harvard University, ”Whether it be lawful to resist the supreme magistrate, if the commonwealth cannot be otherwise preserved?” Sam’s father was in the brewery business as well as an active participant in Boston politics. When he inherited the brewery he ran it into the ground, obsessed with politics, which he had learned while a member of a back room political group known as the Caucus.
Samuel remained an influential player in 18th Century politics for a variety of reasons including his excellent writing style, his emotional rhetoric, and his ability to resort to action. In 1722 he created the committee of correspondence to suay the public towards
his “radical” beliefs. At this time he drafted the infamous report entitled The Rights of the Colonists, which stated that Parliament had no right to tax the colonies with their proposed methods. This is controversial document helped unify colonial actions during this trying period in U.S. history. Samuel Adams claimed, ”If tastes are laid upon us in any shape, without our having a legal representation, where they are laid, we are reduced from the character of free subjects, to the state of tributary slaves.” It was a source of ongoing debate whether the Declaration of Independence was a recapitulation of The Rights of the Colonists. In 1773 Adams gave the go ahead for the Boston Tea Party further exemplifying his leadership role in the American Revolution. One of the more vocal representatives in the Continental Congress from 1774-1781, it is no surprise that he was heavily in favor of the military retaliation and the drafting of the Declaration of Independence. In his home state Sam help to supply arms to the militia involved in the early skirmishes at Lexington and Concord. After his run in Congress Sam served as a state senator, and was elected lieutenant governor from 1789-1794. When John Hancock died he was elected governor until he retired in 1797. Samuel Adams died a distinguished
man in 1803 at age 82.
Mr. Adams often times put his political importance before his financial well-being. When Sam visited Philadelphia for the first time his friend gave him money, and appropriate attire for an elected official. Citizens of Boston also rallied to build him a barn and repair his house. His financial instability often became a target for British bribes which were attempted by Governor Hutchinson. Though, Hutchinson warned the royal officials, ”Such is the obstinacy and inflexible disposition of the man, that he never can be conciliated by any office or gift whatever.” The stand up nature Hutchinson referred to remained true as the temptations of power and money were rejected. After many failed attempts of bribery, Governor Gage tried to threaten him with incarceration and a trial in England for treason. Again these measures were in vain.
Samuel Adams lived during a time when British intrusion and taxes were mild in comparison to today’s current government in America. Nevertheless, they were
considered intolerable to many like-minded American colonists. If Samuel Adams were alive today what would he think of the current tax system that requires 25-40% of everyone’s income? How would he feel about a government that has unlimited powers of confiscation over people’s private property? Were Samuel Adams alive today he would remain outraged by the current workings of the system. Possibly toting another revolution through violent means as he did over 200 years ago.

Ghost Writer
4th July 2003, 14:33
I thought I would bring this very old post back up here since it is very much in the spirit of today's holiday. Samuel Adams is one of my favorite American Icons, and I am glad that his memory lives on in the form of a pretty good beer. Maybe by drinking the beer of Samuel Adams, I can absorb some of his firey spirit in a process similar to the trans-substantiation that Catholics and Morons believe in.

Hampton
4th July 2003, 16:41
http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/holythreadresbatman.jpg

"The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on Earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man, but only to have the law of nature for his rule."----Samuel Adams

redstar2000
4th July 2003, 23:07
Yes, it's fun to speculate on what attitudes historical figures might have if they were alive today.

Given the "the obstinacy and inflexible disposition of the man", as well as his contempt for both the bribes and threats of existing authority, is it not possible that Sam Adams might well have been some kind of leftist? Perhaps even an anarchist?

No way to know, of course, but I like his attitude.

:cool:

Vinny Rafarino
5th July 2003, 09:46
Not to be upstaged by Comrade Hampton;

http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/community/upload/133oldthread.jpg

Liberty Lover
6th July 2003, 04:34
Where do these pictures come from?

(Edited by Liberty Lover at 4:35 am on July 6, 2003)

Anonymous
8th July 2003, 20:02
Yeh, but American beer still tastes of piss

Eastside Revolt
8th July 2003, 20:10
Beer was different back then.

Eastside Revolt
8th July 2003, 20:12
"I submit that the arts have diminished since the art world was tied to what is known as the bleeding heart. Before the bleeding hearts destroyed one of humanities greatest expressions, good art was tied to greatness of achievement, knowledge of the mind, science of the craft, wisdom, and the human spirit. Much like many aspects of the world today, degenerates have infiltrated the art world and applied a newer and less important definition of what is is to be called art. This is another great example of how the left seeks to destroy that which is good. - From Stormin Norman's Wonderful Worldview; 1st Edition"

Sounds like the words Hitler used to describe socialists.

Anonymous
8th July 2003, 20:13
Yes, it wasnt 98% water

Anonymous
8th July 2003, 21:14
Ironically enough im watching a programme about him right now. Says that most of his claims were bull. And those that werent were often exaggerated with his 'co-conspirators' including the propagandist who capitalised on the 'boston massacre'.


Did you know that one of the vicitims of the shooting was black but was subsequently changed to white in the engraving to promote more support?

Sabocat
8th July 2003, 22:15
Quote: from Funky Monk on 3:02 pm on July 8, 2003
Yeh, but American beer still tastes of piss


Sam Adams Beer, brewed (microbrew) in my home town (Boston) wins world wide beer competitions on a yearly basis. I defy you to drink any of Sam Adams beers, and tell me that they taste like piss.

Ghost Writer
9th July 2003, 20:48
It's hardly a microbrew, but it is good.

Sabocat
9th July 2003, 21:16
Quote: from Ghost Writer on 3:48 pm on July 9, 2003
It's hardly a microbrew, but it is good.

True enough these days, though the Boston Brewing Company did start out very small.

Urban Rubble
10th July 2003, 02:26
"If Samuel Adams were alive today what would he think of the current tax system that requires 25-40% of everyone’s income? How would he feel about a government that has unlimited powers of confiscation over people’s private property? Were Samuel Adams alive today he would remain outraged by the current workings of the system. Possibly toting another revolution through violent means as he did over 200 years ago. "

Geez, pretty leftist for Ghost Whiner.

Anyway, Funky Monk, fuck you. You know nothing of American beer. You have probably tasted BudWeiser, Coors or Miller, of course our domestic beer is shit, people only drink it because it is cheap and gets you drunk. There are plenty of good American beers, Sam Adams is one of my favorites. We have so many fucking microbreweries in this country (particularly my state, Washington) that produce great beer.

You know nothing. I love how people always think what they like is the best. Have you ever heard the word "Preference" ?

Where are you from so I can make fun of your beer ?

Anonymous
10th July 2003, 14:05
England. Capital of the Real Ale world

Urban Rubble
12th July 2003, 02:22
Again, fuck you.

I love people who think they are so superior in one area, yet they have never seen other what other people produce. Let me ask, what American beers have you had. Not that we are the best or anything, but we can hold our own.

Are you actually claiming England as the "ale capital" ? Bullshit.

Liberty Lover
12th July 2003, 05:17
Quote: from Urban Rubble on 2:26 am on July 10, 2003
"If Samuel Adams were alive today what would he think of the current tax system that requires 25-40% of everyone’s income? How would he feel about a government that has unlimited powers of confiscation over people’s private property? Were Samuel Adams alive today he would remain outraged by the current workings of the system. Possibly toting another revolution through violent means as he did over 200 years ago. "

Geez, pretty leftist for Ghost Whiner.


Not really. Laissez-faire capitalism more like.

Anonymous
12th July 2003, 11:42
I cant rembmer, some stuff a cousin gave me once.

Are you implying that England is not the Real Real??? Seriously?!?!?!