is osama an enemy or an allied???

[left winger commie]

if osama is an enemy isnt it good dat he bombed those cappie fcukers ???????????????????? enemy or allied

[PunkRawker677]

fuck you.. he killed innocent civilians.. hes not my ally, and 99.9% of people on this board will agree with me on that..

[Capitalist Imperial]

What are you, 5 years old?

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from left winger commie on 1:16 pm on July 2, 2002
if osama is an enemy isnt it good dat he bombed those cappie fcukers ???????????????????? enemy or allied


Is Charlie Manson your comrade because his girls killed weathy people?

As said on this board...over and over... Osama is a right wing fundementalist and..get this..ANTI-COMMUNIST! He didn't spend years fighting the Soviets to suddenly be your buddy.

He's against all Western tought... that includes Socialism/communism.

[I Will Deny You]

Welcome back, Stalin Soldiers.

Haven't we been over this before? Fascist religious fundamentalists are not communists. Get it through your head.

Lindsay

[Stormin Norman]

Left Wing Commy is a perfect example of how the communist/socialist theory has crippled the minds of many.
All kidding aside, it is obvious that this guy is a dim wit and should be ostracized by anyone with any intellectual capacity. He has the right to speak whatever nonsense that he wants, but should be held responsible for his ignorance.

[Ian]

If you wanna see who Bin Laden is Allies with check out http://www.subvertise.org/details.php?code=680
He is definately no commie's comrade!

[RGacky3]

left winger commie..................are you SS?

[Reuben]

this guy isnt SS, his quality english and matrutity far surpasses stalin soldiers :-)

They really shouldnt let 5 year olds use the internet

[RGacky3]

Quote: from Reuben on 12:18 am on July 3, 2002
this guy isnt SS, his quality english and matrutity far surpasses stalin soldiers :-)

They really shouldnt let 5 year olds use the internet

Fuck you, SS is an intelligant and respectible person, he's a comrade.

[Brian]

Who in the fuck was Stalin Soldiers?

[Capitalist Imperial]

RGacky, Stalin Soldiers, and LWC are good examples of the long term effects of state-controlled, communist thinking.

[Mazdak]

And what is wrong with state controlled communist thinking??? SS wasn't that bad from what i saw him say.

[libereco]

Quote: from Mazdak on 2:19 am on July 3, 2002
And what is wrong with state controlled communist thinking??? SS wasn't that bad from what i saw him say.

hmm, what is wrong about thought control....what could it be?

[PunkRawker677]

"SS wasn't that bad from what i saw him say. "

he wasnt bad if you consider killing innocent civilains good..
he wasnt bad if you consider totalitarianism and facism to be a valid alternative to democracy.

but if you agree with him, then your just as bad as him, only you seem to work your posts better and make MUCH more sense. At least we can debate with you and have an intelligent conversation. (how intelligent, i cant say)

[RedCeltic]

There have been a few dim bulbs on here that thought that 9/11 was a glorious event. Rosa, Myodron of Che, Stalin Soldgers, to name a few. It leads one to wonder if these individuals feel that December 7th 1941 was also a grand event. If you would support Osama for being against the US than would you have supported the Axes powers in WWII for doing the same?

[left winger commie]

jesus all i was asking if he killed those ass holes if he is an aliied

[Xvall]

Ally? Sureley you are joking. He's a dirty womanizing bastard, who deserved to die even before 9/11. I'm all for killing this guy.. I just don't support the War Against Terrorism because Innocent people are getting caugt up in it, and it's being used as an excuse to restrict freedoms and invade foreign nations. He didn't kill any 'capitalist fuckers' because the majority of people in the Towers were the working class. You know what that is? The 'proletariot'. Something we have an obligation to defend. Osoma is NOT our ally, and he has owned several companies. He hates communism too.

[Michael De Panama]

Considering Osama bin Laden is one of the biggest, wealthiest, most powerfull CAPITALISTS alive...oh yeah, definitely a comrade.

Especially after killing all those WORKERS in the World Trade Center in September.

[Mazdak]

Howabout the enemy of my enemy is my friend philosophy???

I dont like him much because Islamic Fundamentalism is worse than living in Dark age Europe and blowing up civilians in planes isnt cool either. But Bush and Osama could have been great friends; they are both terrorists.

and SS had that nice pic of Vlad the Impaler, a man who proved being evil and cruel and dictatorial(if such a word exists) works.

[Capitalist Imperial]

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" philosophy is a little simple, but it works sometimes (US and Soviets Vs Axis powers), but for osama and terrorism it holds no water.

AND OSAMA IS NOT A LEGITIMATE CAPITALIST!!!

His businesses do not flourish in a free market economy, and his procurement of resources is questionable at best!!!

[Michael De Panama]

Stalin, Mao, and others were not legitimate communists, but you capitalists don't seem to mind ignoring that.

[Thine Stalin]

God, you moron, stalin and mao are your only communists, fidel followed stalin's example, mao followed stalin, pol pot, tito, Ho chi Minh, who else? ALL communists have followed stalin, you discount stalin as communist, you discount everyone.

Oh I forget, liberal dellusional dumbass pothead dreamer communism hasn't existed yet... thank god.

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from RedCeltic on 2:41 pm on July 3, 2002
There have been a few dim bulbs on here that thought that 9/11 was a glorious event. Rosa, Myodron of Che, Stalin Soldgers, to name a few. It leads one to wonder if these individuals feel that December 7th 1941 was also a grand event. If you would support Osama for being against the US than would you have supported the Axes powers in WWII for doing the same?


The axis powers weren't against the U.S, Japan only attacked the United states because they cut off their rubber and oil supplies, if you're gonna lose because of resources, hurt your enemies while you're at it. Japan knew it wouldn't beat the united states.

Besides that, Osama isn't that great a guy. But you seem to assume Che or trotsky is. Che's and trotsky's followers were all terrorists, but you consider them great men. I wish I could spit in all your faces because of your hypocrisy. I don't hate osama anymore than I hate che, and neither should you. Besides that, his followers ARE heroes, people call osama a coward, but he was very much risking his life by attacking the wtc, and he knew the repprucussions of it, coward? No, maybe crazy, who gives a fuck, that took some fucking guts to attack the united states and killed 3,000 people (honestly I think the U.S overreacted to this completley, and then blamed the 'axis of evil too').

Besides THAT the USA didn't even LEARN from its mistakes, WHY did Osama attack them, because of US forces in the middle east, and western culture filtering its way into the holy land. Has the united states corrected this error? Bush says he'll do all he can to prevent another 9/11, but to me they're really asking for it, if he is doing all he can, why doesn't he withdraw the troops, because israel, needs his protection? Pfft, no, israel merely needs military funding, it has yet to use the United state's military in its own defence. So why is the US still there?!

[Michael De Panama]

Quote: from Thine Stalin on 2:24 am on July 5, 2002
God, you moron, stalin and mao are your only communists, fidel followed stalin's example, mao followed stalin, pol pot, tito, Ho chi Minh, who else? ALL communists have followed stalin, you discount stalin as communist, you discount everyone.

Oh I forget, liberal dellusional dumbass pothead dreamer communism hasn't existed yet... thank god.

I was actually thinking about saying that Pol Pot, Fidel, ect. aren't legitimate communists either, but figured it would take too long to list all of the so-called "communists" who run a system of social inequality and unequal distribution of wealth and such, so I just decided to stick to the basic infamous commies.

I don't smoke pot, by the way.

I'm not bothering with anything else you say, because YOU are not a legitimate communist either. You are a Nazi dressed in red. That's all you are. You don't belong here.

[boadicea88]

I agree with you on the 'Besides that, Osama..." paragraph, Thine Stalin.

[Michael De Panama]

Are you kidding? You hate Osama just as much as you hate Che? Well, I guess TS isn't the only lunatic on here. Well, besides RedSoviet, of course.

[boadicea88]

I do not hate anyone- especially not Che! I'm just saying that while Osama did a very terrible thing (if it was in fact he who did it- I've heard rumours that he died quite a while ago, before 9/11), it did take courage.

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from boadicea88 on 10:27 pm on July 4, 2002
if it was in fact he who did it- I've heard rumours that he died quite a while ago, before 9/11Now there's a new conspiracy theory. What bullshit! I'm sure he was shot buy a member of a secret government agency at the behest of a member of the Bilderberg group. And Michael, go back to your commune, ya hippie Jew-loving champagne-drinking stupid pseudo-communist. Did I forget anything? Oh yeah--you're a pothead too.

Thine Stalin, do you really believe that bin Laden's followers are heroes? You don't believe that they are cowards, but being brave does not make someone a hero. That's like saying Bush is a hero for telling his followers to go risk their lives. And by the way, there are US forces everywhere and bin Laden hasn't lived in the Middle East for a few years, so it's dubious at best that he attacked the World Trade Center because of bases in Saudi Arabia. (If these bases never existed, the operations that made the bin Laden family rich would not be protected and there would be a lot less funding for al Qaeda, anyway.) That's like blaming the Oklahoma City bombing on the Gulf War. Yes, US imperialism and military bases abroad are almost always bad, but there is no reason to automatically assume that whenever someone who was involved in US/Middle East affairs in any way does something bad, they did this bad thing because of US imperialism. And what does Israel have to do with all of this? I am 100% opposed to the Occupation and the war crimes committed by the Israeli army, but I haven't flown a plane into the World Trade Center lately. When was the last time that bin Laden was anywhere near Palestine? How many hijackers were Palestinians? Bin Laden just uses Israel as an excuse. If you really think he cares about Palestine, why don't you join him in his effort to get food, clothing and medical supplies to Palestinian refugees who need these supplies so badly? Oh, that's right, it's because bin Laden hasn't made a valuable contribution to Palestine and buys wives and flight training instead of food for starving orphans in Palestine (or anywhere else).

Lindsay

[bulljivus]

to say that osama is helping your cause, you'd have to agree with his goals and methods of getting them. you might want to take down capitalism, but do you agree with killing thousands of innocent people, just to put a temporary dent into it? i myself can't stand this country, and how stupid everyone in it has been programmed to be. people just run out, waste their lives and consume way too much shit, and do not care about other people. but that doesn't mean that i want to kill thousands to make a difference. i support making a change that will truly affect people, and truly make a positive and long term change. that can't be done by killing people and trying to scare them, so i don't support it. you shouldn't either

osama is an invention of the media anyway; september 11th was probably set up. it's all too idiotic; osama said 'america is filled with fear, from its east to its west, its north to south... thank allah for that!'. the bush administration made 'project infinite justice'. those two things are so stupid, they must be from the same source

[Reuben]

Quote: from Thine Stalin on 2:24 am on July 5, 2002
God, you moron, stalin and mao are your only communists, fidel followed stalin's example



No, fidel is not a stalinist. In the 1970s a processs of "russsification" did occur though this was mainly instigated by the USSR. However from 1985/86 onwards there has been a proceess of rectification in Cuba in which Fidel and others i the government have been dismantling Stalinist aspects of Cuban society.

[American Kid]

People were taking dives off the 103rd floor of the trade center. How the hell could you ever think it was a set up.

.................................................. .?

But as to your politics, man you're a genius. Seriously. No really, I mean it. You've got such a big heart, you're an amazing humanitarian. How you refer to honest hard working Americans as stupid programmed douche bags who consume (and this is profound here) "too much shit". Fuckin' a, brah. Seriously. And you're right where you belong, too, with the left wingers. Where you're truly, truly needed bullijuvusssivis. They should put you in some high place of power where you could make important, influential descisions and really steer the revolution in the direction it needs to go......................








.................................................. ...ha........ha..........................ha....... ........................he's all yours, guys........................ Another star pupil......................

:)
:)

The (prick) Kid

[bulljivus]

"People were taking dives off the 103rd floor of the trade center. How the hell could you ever think it was a set up."

i did not mean fake. i meant that our own government had a hand in it. even if they didn't, they are profiting from it. with a smile even. people's lives were lost for real either way.

"You've got such a big heart, you're an amazing humanitarian. How you refer to honest hard working Americans as stupid programmed douche bags who consume (and this is profound here) "too much shit". Fuckin' a, brah. Seriously"

douche bags? no. people are programmed. honest or hard working? you're right, i see those people all over! why, the people that hold televison as a religion. the people who use materialism to fund their minds with the security they can't find anywhere else. the people who have been pressed to the point of being emotionally destroyed and function on impulses alone because they've lived the same day over and over. the people who drive SUV's for the trend value. the people that don't recycle their cans. the people that don't care about anything because they've been taught not to. i don't mean to insult americans, because they have done nothing wrong. that does not change the fact that the majority of them are corpses, though. america is infested with pride, hate, ignorance, homophobia, sexism, prejudice, and half assed mentality. the people who possess these problems did not cause them, so i can't insult them. but they do have these problems, and you can't expect to help them without admitting it.

"They should put you in some high place of power where you could make important, influential descisions and really steer the revolution in the direction it needs to go...................... "
you seem to be real productive yourself. the way you just tear down arguments that conflict with yours instead of pointing out why they're wrong. i look forward to learning so much from your overflowingly thought out posts!

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from I Will Deny You on 5:59 am on July 5, 2002

Quote: from boadicea88 on 10:27 pm on July 4, 2002
if it was in fact he who did it- I've heard rumours that he died quite a while ago, before 9/11Now there's a new conspiracy theory. What bullshit! I'm sure he was shot buy a member of a secret government agency at the behest of a member of the Bilderberg group. And Michael, go back to your commune, ya hippie Jew-loving champagne-drinking stupid pseudo-communist. Did I forget anything? Oh yeah--you're a pothead too.

Thine Stalin, do you really believe that bin Laden's followers are heroes? You don't believe that they are cowards, but being brave does not make someone a hero. That's like saying Bush is a hero for telling his followers to go risk their lives. And by the way, there are US forces everywhere and bin Laden hasn't lived in the Middle East for a few years, so it's dubious at best that he attacked the World Trade Center because of bases in Saudi Arabia. (If these bases never existed, the operations that made the bin Laden family rich would not be protected and there would be a lot less funding for al Qaeda, anyway.) That's like blaming the Oklahoma City bombing on the Gulf War. Yes, US imperialism and military bases abroad are almost always bad, but there is no reason to automatically assume that whenever someone who was involved in US/Middle East affairs in any way does something bad, they did this bad thing because of US imperialism. And what does Israel have to do with all of this? I am 100% opposed to the Occupation and the war crimes committed by the Israeli army, but I haven't flown a plane into the World Trade Center lately. When was the last time that bin Laden was anywhere near Palestine? How many hijackers were Palestinians? Bin Laden just uses Israel as an excuse. If you really think he cares about Palestine, why don't you join him in his effort to get food, clothing and medical supplies to Palestinian refugees who need these supplies so badly? Oh, that's right, it's because bin Laden hasn't made a valuable contribution to Palestine and buys wives and flight training instead of food for starving orphans in Palestine (or anywhere else).

Lindsay


You know I really don't like it when IWDY responds to me, because her posts take longer to read than everyone elses snappy hostile posts.

I think you're very intelligent anyway, and its refreshing to actually get informed of another opinions respectfully.

To me, anyone giving their life for something they believe in is a hero, I don't care what they're fighting for or how many they hurt, I don't have to like their action, but they're still heroes.
Osama admitted that he attacked the WTC because of the U.S's bases in the middle east, The Bin Laden family didn't need U.S protection, don't they get that enough from the corrupt saudis?
I don't see how its like blaming the olklahoma city bombing for the gulf war, please explain this.
I don't think Osama attacked the U.S because he thought it's imperialism was invading the holy land, I personally think the U.S is no longer imperialist, but I don't want to argue that.
Israel has nothing to do with this and thats the point, some right wingers I've met have justified U.S middle east presence by saying israel needs our protection, honestly I doubt thats the united states' military's agenda but they bring that up everytime. Anyway, there's no point for the U.S to be there to protect Israel.
Osama has no relation to palestine and is in rival muslim sect, why would he help those 'bad' muslims, its like expecting protestants to help out the vatican.

[I Will Deny You]

[hr]Quote: from Thine Stalin on 9:23 am on July 5, 2002
To me, anyone giving their life for something they believe in is a hero, I don't care what they're fighting for or how many they hurt, I don't have to like their action, but they're still heroes.[hr]What about the anti-Stalin resistance in the USSR? Was it chock-full of heroes? Millions of people gave their lives for what they believed in during the Great Purges. Some gave their lives because they were communists of the non-Stalin-loving variety. Others gave their lives because they were capitalists. Do you believe that the capitalists who died at the hands of the Soviet military are heroes? I don't. Unlike some of your pals here, I don't believe they deserved to die. But they also weren't heroes. And I don't believe that Mohammed Atta was a hero, either. The word "hero" implies that someone is a good person.[hr]Quote: from Thine Stalin on 9:23 am on July 5, 2002
Osama admitted that he attacked the WTC because of the U.S's bases in the middle east[hr]Osama bin Laden is a crazy motherfucker. He says those things to get ordinary Middle Easterners to support his cause, but whether he believes it or not is dubious. See my previous post about his lack of actual charitable work. (If you'd respond to that, I'd appreciate it.) George W. Bush says he's strengthening the work requirements for Welfare because he cares about poor people. That doesn't mean I believe it. There are certain people who are opportunist shitheads, and bin Laden is one of them.[hr]Quote: from Thine Stalin on 9:23 am on July 5, 2002
The Bin Laden family didn't need U.S protection, don't they get that enough from the corrupt saudis?[hr]No, they don't. Why the hell do you think that the US army is in Saudi Arabia, if not to protect oil interests?[hr]Quote: from Thine Stalin on 9:23 am on July 5, 2002
I don't see how its like blaming the olklahoma city bombing for the gulf war, please explain this.[hr]After the Oklahoma City bombing, the less intelligent members of the left suggested that perhaps McVeigh wouldn't have been such a racist, murderous scumbag if he hadn't been trained to kill Arabs. I was referring to the fact that when people oppose two things, they often try to link those things together in order to reinforce their argument. For example, many people who are against the occupation of the West Bank and the events of September 11 have tried to link those two things. However, not everything can be linked.[hr]Quote: from Thine Stalin on 9:23 am on July 5, 2002
I don't think Osama attacked the U.S because he thought it's imperialism was invading the holy land, I personally think the U.S is no longer imperialist, but I don't want to argue that.
Israel has nothing to do with this and thats the point, some right wingers I've met have justified U.S middle east presence by saying israel needs our protection, honestly I doubt thats the united states' military's agenda but they bring that up everytime. Anyway, there's no point for the U.S to be there to protect Israel.
Osama has no relation to palestine and is in rival muslim sect, why would he help those 'bad' muslims, its like expecting protestants to help out the vatican.[hr]I agree with you, for the first time. What a way to end my post! I think I'll quit while I'm ahead with you.

Lindsay

[Mazdak]

I hate when people say that those suicide bombers were cowards!! I cant call them heroes, but i can say they are extraordinarily brave.

And Osama is a hero to his followers, at the very least

[American Kid]

And now the Kid rolls his sleeves up to go a round or two with Bulisjuvusness............

I've been here a few weeks. Made friends (Stormin Norman, fellow cappie; Izm Schizm and Rgacky-socialist and communsit respectively), ememies (Field Marshall, Wolfie Smith) (though I think me and Wolfie made up...).

And even the people I don't get along, with or necessarily like personally (Smith and Marshall ect.), I respect because they've got shit to say, and though I don't agree with it, they say it with sincerity and I respect their conviction. You, on the other hand, are just a miserable, miserable case.......

Ugh.........:(

HOW'S THE US GOVERNMENT PROFITING FROM 9/11? Seriously! Yeah, lot of people were selling t-shirts (NYFD 4-ever), bumber stickers, so what? Let them! I wore a red, white and blue ribbon for the weeks after 9/11, paid a few bucks for it. It went to charity I think. But if it was a private vendor who kept it, who the fuck cares? I wore it anyway! I showed solidarity. And he made a few bucks! Oh my God storm the capital.

The Government didn't benefit at all. Would you want a job in security at the federal level in this day and age? You think that's not a stressful job? You think all they know is what you hear on CNN? You think they fuckin' sleep at night?

And I must say it's difficult typing, being a corpse and all. This Rigor Mortis is a pain in the ass. I shit standing up. It sucks.

I have a lot of friends who have SUVs. And you're right, it's a disgusting trend. But who the fuck cares? What isn't?

Are you an American? I'm not even going to speculate......but please answer.

On:

Pride: Yes, we're proud.
Being hateful: Yes, some are. WHO ISN'T? You think this an AMERICAN condition? Like AIDS is a homosexual disease or something?
Ignorant: Yes, some are. WHO ISN'T? (see above)
Homophobic: (see above)
Sexist: I'll admit, after I broke up with my girlfriend last month, for about two weeks I hate ALL OF THEM. But I got over it. Most people do.
Prejudice: WHO ISN'T?
Having a half-assed mentality: Well obviously maybe you are American. Because your big brain alone would completely throw the curve off, making it look better for the rest of us.

-Kid

(the gov't didn't know anything. yeah, they're the big, bad evil gov't, but they're regular human beings too. don't make a cartoon out of them; don't be ignorant.)

[RedCeltic]

Hey what's this shit, you don't mention I Will Deny You?Reuben, Fires of History, Michael De Palma, me (RedCeltic)...

or even Mazdak, Thine Stalin and such? What shit is that?

Oh and not to mention Peaccenicked... and I'm sure your lucky not to have met VOX who gave up on this board because of the Stalinists.

(Edited by RedCeltic at 3:20 am on July 6, 2002)

[Lefty]

Lesse...
Osama is evil.
Osama is evil because he killed people.
Osama is evil because he killed 3000 people.
Osama is evil because he killed 3000 innocent people.
Osama is evil because he killed 3000 innocent WORKING people.
Osama is evil because he killed 3000 innocent WORKING people with absolutely no rationale and no honor and...god, you are an idiot, LWC


anyone disagree?

[Thine Stalin]

I disagree because evil doesn't exist and is merely relative.

[American Kid]

Celtic, I don't think I have beef with any of those guys......Or you. Do I?

You're my biggest fan aren't you? What about all the drunken, madcap hilarity and mayhem I entertained you with last week? I thought you and me were cool. Granted you're socialist and I'm a tax paying cappie, but you're okay with me........I like a good plumber.......whatever......

-Kid

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from American Kid on 9:16 pm on July 6, 2002
Celtic, I don't think I have beef with any of those guys......Or you. Do I?

You're my biggest fan aren't you? What about all the drunken, madcap hilarity and mayhem I entertained you with last week? I thought you and me were cool. Granted you're socialist and I'm a tax paying cappie, but you're okay with me........I like a good plumber.......whatever......

-Kid

Yea, I respect you AK, I was just messing around. : )

[bulljivus]

HOW'S THE US GOVERNMENT PROFITING FROM 9/11? Seriously
oh god, please don't tell me you're brainwashed... i can't deal with that.

read up, sonny. you've been fed all cnn, i'm guessing? america has EVERYTHING to profit from this, everything that it's been lusting after for decades. there is a reason that america brought saddam hussein to power (that's debatable... but we gave him the means to become a nuclear threat and terrible oppressor.) there is a reason why WE created the taliban also. it is all about oil. we made saddam, so that he would take over his land, become an enemy to us, make it legitimate for us to destroy him and grasp control of iraq. for OIL. now, the taliban... the CIA trained them to fight against the russians, because we did not want the russians in afganistan... why would that be? afganistan has no oil, but it is a prime site now, with plans for an oil pipeline that will carry oil from the caspian sea directly into the hands of the oil companies. the bush administration (junior and senior) has always been entangled in oil companies, now more than ever; enron, ken lay, you know. ken lay gave bush a huge amount of money for his campain years ago, and, to repay him, bush allowed him to make a new energy plan and control america's oil use and supply. that is where the bush energy plan comes in, a plan that uses complete disregard for the environmnet or conservation of resources all in the name of blind greed. efficiency standards on vehicles and electronics were all lowered by this plan, and maybe it's a coincidence that the SUV, which uses twice as much fuel as a normal car, became a fad just now. anyways, another contributer to the Bush family has always been the war manufacturers; they make money when there is a war, obviously. so, retribution again... war mongering for money.

the economy is failing. they say it isn't, that's bullshit. the government is struggling to gain oil now more than ever, to ensure that it will be able to remain stable and not collapse. so, the government wanted to build a pipeline in afganistan to bring them oil. they packed up the taliban's leaders, FLEW THEM TO WASHINGTON, SAT DOWN AND MET WITH THEM. now, if we were so intent on killing off the evildoing terrorists... why would we sit down and fucking have tea with them? it is all a lie, kid. propaganda. here's the deal they proposed; they let us build and control the pipeline, and we would in return give them two things; 10-15% of the profits made from it, and, we would entirely consider their treatment of women acceptable. we would ignore it. they turned the deal down.

so, we needed a reason to go over there, bust some heads, and take what we wanted. september 11th happens. very convenient... we fly troops over, carelessly drop bombs, miss with 'precise, laser guided missiles that could hit a dime', and slaughter civilians carelessly, usually purposely. then, even though there are no more military targets to bomb, we continue bombing; villages, churches, hospitals, anything... we need to use up all of our bombs, to pay the war manufacturers. (over 200 million into the military has to be used somehow.) and, to make sure that there are no people to complain about us taking over their land, we kill off ALL civilians that are along the projected path of the pipeline.

back in america, fear and hyped warnings of attack echo all over to keep us occupied. people are too busy watching the cnn, proud, heroic version of the war, with nice little war graphics and sound bites for the short attention spans.
here's just one little example of how we're profiting... or really, FORCING our way to profit.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-...-346161,00.html (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-346161,00.html)

[bulljivus]

not done yet. all of what i've said so far has been factual, undeniable, all recorded and reported from numerous sources. (from american and british sources, too, even.) now, since you say we have nothing to profit over, answer me these questions. and, no smart ass answers, no avoiding answers, no vague things. explain to me, if we have nothing to profit from this, why are we killing children? why are we flying helicopters across fields and plains along the path of a pipeline, gunning down every inch, civilians present or not? why are we refusing to allow our military to be punished by international law? we absolutely will not sign an agreement, which we have been pushed to sign for years, which would make american troops accountable and punishable for crimes committed, just like all other u.n. countries that have signed. we refuse, but why? if we're so valiant and brave, going over there, to those big bad terrorists, and serving justice, what do we have to hide from international law? american kid, you jump to assumptions and act like you know the deal, when you obviously have done no research. i'm not insulting you, i'm trying to tell you that you shouldn't shoot down other people's beliefs and say that they're garbage when you don't even know what you're talking about. cheerio!


here's another thing to read over.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page....ll&siteid=50143 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=12005343&method=full&siteid=50143)

[American Kid]

oh................my...................God........ ....

Even you guys have to admit............this-is-out-of-control.

Who here is out to get bulljivus?

(no one raises their hand)

(bulljivus sees everyone's)

-the Kid

Yeah, no shit. We like oil. Why? Because it lets us drive.

[bulljivus]

bwhaahahahahwa! i'm from a message board where people actually write long ass things constantly. maybe that's not fitting for this board, but oh well. reading is good.


...over your head? i didn't get an answer to the questions.

(Edited by bulljivus at 7:33 am on July 7, 2002)

[American Kid]

And you're not.

If you want to see how long my posts can be, go hunting for them. I usually spend about half an hour on each.

-Kid

[bulljivus]

...over your head? i didn't get an answer to the questions.

[Guest]

enemy.

he's an Islamic fundimentalist, not a comrade

-Hattori Hanzo

[STALINSOLDIERS]

osama bin laden is my allie , hes a good person of the islamic world hes a warrior of islam, and not only that hes helping the communist defeating america, i dont give a dam shit about american lives they aint worth nothing, communist and islamic lives is priceless, jews christians,catholics,capitalist,nazis,facist should all die for the sake of the world...they should die in any manner as possible as long as they disapear...

[Edelweiss]

Well, if fascists have to die for the sake of the world, than go right ahead and kill yourself, you stupd little idiot! :)

[Stormin Norman]

SS,

It is obvious from your computer personality that your are a creaton. If Osama ran across you in the hillside he wouldn't hesitate to decapitate you for being a westerner. Furthermore, your language skills and spelling has little to be desired. What happened to you, did you drink some toluene when you were a child?

[Capitalist Imperial]

LOL, Normin, as usual a breath of fresh air,

Here's to Big Mac's and monster trucks!!!

[boadicea88]

Quote: from Thine Stalin on 6:17 pm on July 6, 2002
I disagree because evil doesn't exist and is merely relative.


Amen to that.

[Pinko]

By the very definition of US law, Osama is innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty, right?