is osama an enemy or an allied??? - ?????

[left winger commie]

if osama is an enemy isnt it good dat he bombed those cappie bastards ???????????????????? enemy or allied

[pixie]

Errr, i think you miss the point here, he didn't kill 'cappie bastards' he killed innocent people.
Lots of people have lost familie and friends because him.
I think he's all but an allie.

[Child of Revolution]

neither.
capitalism is only as disgraceful as terrorism.
God Q though

[Mazdak]

Left winger commie- u must really like osama to make two threads about him!! AND they are both the same haha

[Zippy]

Quote: from left winger commie on 7:13 pm on July 2, 2002
... isnt it good dat he bombed those cappie bastards ????????????????????
You great big fucking retard.

Zippy.

[ID2002]

Osama is the biggest cappi around. He got rich at the expense of others suffering, and he was totally into world oil markets and their greed. He is allied with Sadam Husain, a Fascist ruler in the Middle East.

...he then create terrorist networks which fuelled right wing religious zelousness....then he had his agents carry out terrorist attacks on the US targets.

...this has nothing to do with Socialism VS capitalism!

[Ian]

Bin Laden is a perfect of example of what happens when you get addicted to the Opiate of the Masses (religion if you didn't know LWC, by the way isn't your name a tautology?). He is definately no comrade of mine or anyone I have respect for and if you think those cappie's would have been at work at like 9am I think you would be mistaken. Capitalists are people too, but they have bad ideals, people shouldn't be murdered because of their ideals, except for racists.

[RedCeltic]

I've posted in the duplicate thred of this, however since this one is active as well... Two point I would like to bring up..

1) Osama and his gang where trained by none other the the United States to... get this.... fight communism!

2) The people working in the world trade center where... just that, working.. or perhaps where tourists.

AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET THE FIREMEN!

I am friends with many firemen, some I knew when I was in high school in the 80's..... I know many firemen that died on 9/11 and your comments make me sick.

These people did not have anyone working for them, they dedicated their lives to one of the most risky jobs one can have. I had more friends die that day than ever in my life, and more I think than anyone else on this boad.

So... I take it as a personal insult that you could think that it was benifical that my friends died so that a fascist Muslim radical can make his point.

Was it worth it? A friend of mine that teaches the second grade tells me that one of her students lost both her mother and father that day. What did they do? She worked a low wage job as a secriery for some firm in that bulding, he worked for the FDNY! What fucked up chance is that? They both died there not doing anything wrong but living their lives the best they could under a capitalistic economy.

I truly wonder about some of these people that call themselves "Communists"

I lived in an era when people put on t-shirts that said "KILL A COMMIE FOR MOMMY".... without the understanding that not everyone who lived in the USSR was a "COMMIE" It's sad that people fall into the same trap the other way around.

[Josip Broz Tito]

He is not a bloody ally. He is a terrorist. OK, he did (?!) bomb a cappies, so what? Most of that people were innocent. He should bomb White House, CIA Centre and similar objects. And Pentagon of course. Not innocent people. If he only have killed that pig Bush.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Josip Broz Tito on 11:43 pm on July 8, 2002
He is not a bloody ally. He is a terrorist. OK, he did (?!) bomb a cappies, so what? Most of that people were innocent. He should bomb White House, CIA Centre and similar objects. And Pentagon of course. Not innocent people. If he only have killed that pig Bush.

He did hit the pentagon. However, if you think that hitting the white house and CIA HQ would not kill innocent workers, you are wrong. Besides, if he really has beef with the US, try to take on our military with his forces. If he could legitimately beat us, then he could do with the US what he pleases. Atacking unarmed civilians en masse is indicative of nothing but mere cowardice.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Child of Revolution on 1:42 pm on July 3, 2002
neither.
capitalism is only as disgraceful as terrorism.
God Q though


Come on, give me a break, equating legitimate free market capitalism with terrorism?

This is a grasp at straws if I ever saw one

[Anonymous]

The deaths in the 11 September werent that inocent!!! Lets see twin towers were one of the centers of the west economy! the same economy that sents millions to disgrace the same that conden millions to poverty! the same that controls the economy of third world countrys! On your eyes they may be inocent, but at the eyes of millions of hunger people they are killers!

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from the anarchist on 8:09 am on July 9, 2002
The deaths in the 11 September werent that inocent!!! Lets see twin towers were one of the centers of the west economy! the same economy that sents millions to disgrace the same that conden millions to poverty! the same that controls the economy of third world countrys! On your eyes they may be inocent, but at the eyes of millions of hunger people they are killers!

Most people I knew who died in the WTC ( and I know quite a few) didn't run multi-million dollar corperations. They where office workers, and firemen.

If you think they deserved to die than come over to my house and try to shoot me too you coward. Because I have as much to do with that as they do.

[Anonymous]

Well red celtic maby you dindt know that under the twin towers was a CIA Inteligence base? maby you dindt know that most of the small corporations in the WTC received hundreds of anonymos calls saying that there was going to be a attack! like in Oklahoma! And i am not sayoing they deserved to die! Ofcourse a significant part of the WTC workers were inocent! All i said was that in our eyes they were inocents but in the eyes of some third world countrys they were not soo inocent! I dindt say they all deserved to dies! i did say that some deaths arnt that inocent! and by the way! did you know that acording some especilists there was internal sabotage! because one plane isnt enough to make such a "good" building colapse! soo the internal structors were sabotaded so the builsding could colapse!

[Xvall]

Shut up!
You're no real anarchist!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from the anarchist on 3:49 pm on July 10, 2002
Well red celtic maby you dindt know that under the twin towers was a CIA Inteligence base? maby you dindt know that most of the small corporations in the WTC received hundreds of anonymos calls saying that there was going to be a attack! like in Oklahoma! And i am not sayoing they deserved to die! Ofcourse a significant part of the WTC workers were inocent! All i said was that in our eyes they were inocents but in the eyes of some third world countrys they were not soo inocent! I dindt say they all deserved to dies! i did say that some deaths arnt that inocent! and by the way! did you know that acording some especilists there was internal sabotage! because one plane isnt enough to make such a "good" building colapse! soo the internal structors were sabotaded so the builsding could colapse!


LOL, LOL, LMAO, ROFL....

Dude, you are an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Well well well, CI looking at the mirror!!!!

[Stormin Norman]

Why don't you tell me where you got the data that supports your internal sabotage conspiracy theory? Not to rule it out completely, but if you are going to make such claims you should have the data to support them. Numbers with physical meaning might help. I think that you heard some nut say this thing, wanted to believe it, so you adopted it into your cache of conspiracy theories.

[komsomol]

Quote: from the anarchist on 3:49 pm on July 10, 2002
Well red celtic maby you dindt know that under the twin towers was a CIA Inteligence base? maby you dindt know that most of the small corporations in the WTC received hundreds of anonymos calls saying that there was going to be a attack! like in Oklahoma! And i am not sayoing they deserved to die! Ofcourse a significant part of the WTC workers were inocent! All i said was that in our eyes they were inocents but in the eyes of some third world countrys they were not soo inocent! I dindt say they all deserved to dies! i did say that some deaths arnt that inocent! and by the way! did you know that acording some especilists there was internal sabotage! because one plane isnt enough to make such a "good" building colapse! soo the internal structors were sabotaded so the builsding could colapse!


:shocked: :confused:

[TxFreedomFighter]

"Internal Sabatoge," just how in the hell would that be able to happen without anyone asking any questions? I did read thet the only way that the towers could fall was if rhey were hit on or near the four corners of the building. If my memory is correct,they were hit in that area.

[Napalm Dust]

I haven't had time to read the other replies here, but Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist and a right wing one at that.
But despite killing innocent people, you've got to admire something about him.
He was used by the American government and had the balls and intelligence to fight back.
If only he's targeted millitary or political targets rather than innocents.
F**k terrorism, f**k fascists, f**k Osama Bin Laden.

[kidicarus20]

I think the orginal question was a good one and it's senseless to attack somebody asking a question.

If bin laden is so right wing why are two of his three demands resonable?

Ending the sanctions on iraq is one

and removing us troops in the middle east is another.

both reasonable.

I dont like bin laden and his cause is full of wrongs, he did get rich at the expensive of others, and all that, and he is an enemy, but i can definitely understand the question.
He's against our enemy in a lot of ways, but the sort of reasoining "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" is inaccurate.

Although U$ uses that kind of logic a lot.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Napalm Dust on 4:22 pm on July 11, 2002
I haven't had time to read the other replies here, but Osama Bin Laden is a terrorist and a right wing one at that.
But despite killing innocent people, you've got to admire something about him.
He was used by the American government and had the balls and intelligence to fight back.
If only he's targeted millitary or political targets rather than innocents.
F**k terrorism, f**k fascists, f**k Osama Bin Laden.


He's not good enough to attack military targets, no terrorist is, any joe off the street can conduct terrorism.

[Red Revolution]

If one of Bin Ladens demands is to end sanctions on Iraq he IS right wing because he is supporting a Right Wing country. Also if their were no sanctions on Iraq it would be manufacturing nukes in weeks and more would die as the moron would probobly test it on the Kurds.

[Commie Canuck 15]

Osama, a friend, i think not. didnt he fight the soviets? he's a hypocrite and a fat capitalist bastard, but hey he did beat the crap out of the Americans on 911 and he's still alive and kickin'. He is not our ally though, he's an anti-commie.

[boadicea88]

WOW. I'm impressed with anarchist. He's absolutely right. I don't usually agree with him, but this time I do. You know what happens to people who ask questions? They *commit suicide* or something. Did you also know that Israel had two whole floors in one of the towers (don't remember which one), and they moved everything and everyone out directly before 911? Hmmm...

[Pinko]

By the very definition of US law, Osama is innocent.

Innocent until proven guilty, right?

[boadicea88]

Right. In theory.

[Pinko]

Eh? What is happening? There are two of these threads?

"He's not good enough to attack military targets, no terrorist is, any joe off the street can conduct terrorism. "

So the bombing of the US warship that was blamed on him was a lie then?

(Edited by Pinko at 4:57 am on Sep. 5, 2002)

[boadicea88]

Evidently...

[DestinDisaster]

Was anybody watching the attacks on 9/11? I was. I saw the second plane hit, the first building fall, the attack on the pentagon, and the second building fall. Do you know what creeped me out? It couldn't have been more than 20 mins after the attack and already the president had blamed Osama. He knew. The CIA obvioulsy knew also. There's more to this story than we think. The US could have prevented it, but they didn't because they wanted an excuse to attack. Osama is no way on the left. He's just as corrupt as the US right wingers. I blame the US just as much as I do Osama for the lives lost. It makes me sick, disgusted. But this will continue. forever, and ever and ever. No where is safe. No country is correct. Man as an individual is not corrupt, but man as a collective is.

sorry, I go off on tangents a lot. I wish 9/11 never happend. I feel so bad for the people in the WTC

[munkey soup]

boadicea88, please don't use words from subcommandante Marcos in your sig, then try and defend Osama.

[boadicea88]

I'm not defending Bin Laden, I seriously don't like what he did or his politics. I'm not even sure he did it, he denies it. I'd be boasting left and right. I would never defend acts of terrorism, they serve no real purpose. I think that terrorists are very courageous, because they would die for a cause, something that most of us would not. That doesn't mean I support them. All I'm saying is that Anarchist is right.

I don't know if Subcommandante Insurgente Marcos wrote the poem in my sig, or not.