Zimbabwe

[IrishRepublican]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/afr...000/2067728.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/africa/newsid_2067000/2067728.stm)

Isn't evicting the white farmers just adding to the food problem?

i know i should have posted this in general politics but i put it here to have a debate with some cappies

[Apache]

Isn't evicting the white farmers just adding to the food problem?

In short, YEP!
I think Mugabe's mind has finally left him.
He must love starving people, because he is going to be creating a lot of them. :(

[IzmSchism]

Okay, I am totally in the dark here. I am assuming that since the white farmers are forced to give up land, the ones who ( i assume) know the process of farming and running it like a business are being forced to give it up to (less skilled workers?).....what is causing the food shortage in Zim.?

[Apache]

Quote: from IzmSchism on 12:21 pm on June 26, 2002
Okay, I am totally in the dark here. I am assuming that since the white farmers are forced to give up land, the ones who ( i assume) know the process of farming and running it like a business are being forced to give it up to (less skilled workers?).....what is causing the food shortage in Zim.?

It trashes the level of food production. With the scarcity of food, the price goes up and less people can afford to eat.
It is a double whammy!

[IzmSchism]

still, how does it trash the level of food production? more farmers working smaller areas of land? I am still not sure how this works? I understand simple supply and demand......BUT........?

[Apache]

Quote: from IzmSchism on 1:30 pm on June 26, 2002
still, how does it trash the level of food production? more farmers working smaller areas of land? I am still not sure how this works? I understand simple supply and demand......BUT........?

It is really a lot of really small things.
Essentially, you lose the economy of scale to produce food. The amount of food produced per acre goes down rather dramatically.
This happens because of the people with the best knowledge of how to get the most yield from the land have been kicked off the farms.
Next, the equipment and fertilizer/pesticides that is used to achieve the high level of food production become used less frequently because the smaller farmers do not have the financial resources to buy these.

[pastradamus]

I think mugabe has made a balls of zimbabwe lately,the once "bread basket of africa" has turned into a poverty stricken area.Mugabe promised marxism-leninism,what we got was different but still ok up untill a few years back,when he invited an element of racism.

also he blames the recent drought for all his problems,what an idiot.

[Apache]

Mugabe promised marxism-leninism,what we got was different but still ok up untill a few years back,when he invited an element of racism.

Hum... he maintains control by rigging an election, and proceeds to fuck up the country and starve his own people.
How would that make him any different than ANY OTHER COMMUNIST LEADER THAT EVER EXISTED?

(Edited by Apache at 8:39 pm on June 26, 2002)

[pastradamus]

yeah sure if u can really call mugabe a communist,but the fact is that s of late he seems to be more of a cappi than a commie.

[Moskitto]

I was reading a Basildon Peta article in the Independant.

I was nearly sick.

Mugabe is banning people from growing food even though there's 6 million people about to starve.

And Mugabe is no communist no matter what he or anyone else wants to think, The KANU was never communist so why is ZANU-PF going to be communist?

And annother thing about breaking up large farms is this idea

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larger farms are more efficient because there isn't space being taken up by hedges. It's how collectivisation was supposed to work and what happened to East Anglian farms in the 50s and 60s.

[Pythagoras]

Mugabe is a the definition of a racist war criminal. Interesting. Since Mugabe is a black supremacist and since he hates white people and has no problem murdering them I expected to see a different reaction on this board.

[Moskitto]

Like every nazi, your logic has been well, screwed.

Like every desiese we need anti-biotics against you. This would be in the form of paramilitary deathsquads.

[Pythagoras]

>>Like every nazi, your logic has been well, screwed.

LOL I am not a Nazi. Perhaps you have not noticed this but the Third Reich was a detail of over 4,000+ years of recorded history. I just do not have an undying hatred of white people and their culture like most Communists I have come across.

>>Like every desiese we need anti-biotics against you. This would be in the form of paramilitary deathsquads.

LOL that is the Lenin way of taking care of it isn't it.

[Power1]

It's Mugabes fault Zimbabwe is in such a problem. Five million are going to starve because of his racist policies. He's kicking the white farmers out but they are starving because of it. It's his fault for the situation, he's a racist murderer and like Pythagoras said he should be tried for war crimes.

Moskitto why are you so anti white. You don't complain about Mugagbe but i geuss you compain about the evil racist whites. Double standards

[Moskitto]

I'm not anti white

Like every nazi you're screwed.

Hang on i'm anti white aren't I. I'll just go and shoot myself. ROTFLMFAO.

My last words are


I was reading a Basildon Peta article in the Independant.

I was nearly sick.

Mugabe is banning people from growing food even though there's 6 million people about to starve.

And Mugabe is no communist no matter what he or anyone else wants to think, The KANU was never communist so why is ZANU-PF going to be communist?

And annother thing about breaking up large farms is this idea

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larger farms are more efficient because there isn't space being taken up by hedges. It's how collectivisation was supposed to work and what happened to East Anglian farms in the 50s and 60s.

[Moskitto]

LOL that is the Lenin way of taking care of it isn't it.

No the Lenin way of taking care of it is using the Cheka. The Cheka were more of a secret police than a paramilitary deathsquad.

Paramilitary deathsquads are better because they're far, far more brutal and central American in origin. And they mimick skinhead tactics.

or there's the microwave oven, the new Auschwitz for the 21st century to put nazis into, but they're a bit more expensive. And may not be as effective as deathsquads

[Power1]

I'm no nazi either Moskitto. I just realise they did have some good policies. Will your death macines kill anyone who think the nazis had good points? If so your going to have to kill a lot of people. 45% of people in Germany aged between 25 and 35 thought the nazis had at least one good point and 15% thought they were good overall. Remember this is an country where National Socialism is condemmed and a baised opinion of it is taught. Imagine how many more people would think National Socialism had good ideas if an unbiased stance was taken towards them.

[Moskitto]

there is no price too large to pay for annihalating nazism.

I personally think that someone should fire a nail through Nick Griffin's head.

[Apache]

I personally think that someone should fire a nail through Nick Griffin's head.

I agree.

[Power1]

Quote: from Moskitto on 5:42 pm on June 30, 2002
there is no price too large to pay for annihalating nazism.

I personally think that someone should fire a nail through Nick Griffin's head.


He's not even an Nazi. The BNP is much more liberal than National Socialism.

[Moskitto]

David Copeland was a member of the BNP.

There are of course, 2 people on my list of people that I will absolutely under no circumstances kill. They are my C2 partner (Lefties are very rare and i've got one who will only do C2 with me) and someone else I know.

(Edited by Moskitto at 10:22 pm on June 30, 2002)

[pastradamus]

He's not even an Nazi. The BNP is much more liberal than National Socialism.


National socialism? Is that what u call it? u gotta be a nazi.

If u call stopping all immagration into the country Liberal than im santa claus.

The orignal nazi party policies were not as authoritarn untill they got into power.
After that I dont think i wud trust an english version in the BNP.

[Power1]

Quote: from pastradamus on 12:34 am on July 1, 2002
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National socialism? Is that what u call it? u gotta be a nazi.

If u call stopping all immagration into the country Liberal than im santa claus.

The orignal nazi party policies were not as authoritarn untill they got into power.
After that I dont think i wud trust an english version in the BNP.

The BNP arn't liberal obviously but compared to the Nazis they are. There not going to ban homosexualty or kick out immigrants who are already in the country. Stopping immigration is a sensible policy anyway.

I call it national socialism because nazi is just used as an insult and i don't think National Socialism was as bad as everyone says. I'm not a national socialist because it is not the ideal solution to the problems we have today. National Socialism was for the past we need a new system for the future. Hitler himself said that national Socialismas only useful for his time period in Germany

[Moskitto]

Er, Yes they are going to kick out immigrants, ever heard of Repatriation?

[Power1]

Quote: from Moskitto on 6:17 pm on July 1, 2002
Er, Yes they are going to kick out immigrants, ever heard of Repatriation?

Do you know what the BNP polices are?

They support voluntary Repatriation where immigrants are payed to go home.

[Moskitto]

gee, that'll work.

What do they do when none of them want to go home?

And most of the Non-White population in Britain aren't immigrants anyway because they were born and raised in Britain. Most of the Black community you couldn't send home because they're families have been here so long that they could come from Ethiopia or Angola for all anyone knows.

BNP<Dogs

[Power1]

Only 50% were born in Britain thats not everyone.

A lot do what to go back and would if we could stabilise their countries.

[Moskitto]

Oh I had forgotten that.

But the BNP don't want to stabilise other countries. So that won't work.

From the BNPs own website http://www.bnp.org.uk/policies.html

FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!

Here again http://www.bnp.org.uk/anl.html

Lie No. 3 “The BNP wants to scrap the NHS”
TRUTH: The British National Party wants a fully-funded National Health Service to provide free treatment for all Britons. The £200 million Blair is giving to ‘rebuild Afghanistan’ should be spent in our hospitals to help our own people for a start.

Sounds like they wanna rebuild other countries to send people back to, sure, that'll work.

Dogs>Nazis

(Edited by Moskitto at 8:57 pm on July 2, 2002)

[Moskitto]

Also, to show how low the average IQ of a BNP member is we can see their campaign leaflets, like this one.

http://www.bnp.org.uk/anl.pdf

Anyone who believes that has gotta be real dumb.

[pastradamus]

So what about refugees? when u send them home their "reprations" arent going to matter when they're looking up the barrel of a gun.