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abbielives!
12th April 2008, 03:02
Cuba allows housing privatisation




http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/images/2008/2/25/1_241689_1_5.jpg Raul Castro became Cuba's president in
February [Reuters]


Raul Castro has issued a decree enabling Cubans to acquire titles to housing they currently rent from the state, according to a US media report.

The measure was the first legal decree formally published by the Cuban president since he succeeded his brother Fidel as president in February.





The decree spells out rules allowing Cubans renting from their state employers to keep their homes after leaving their posts, the Associated Press reported.

Thousands of Cubans could take advantage of the move, including military families, sugar and construction workers, teachers and doctors.








They could gain the title to the property and even pass it on to their children or relatives.

Holding onto state housing originally designated for specific workers has been a widespread but usually informal part of Cuban life - the new decree is set to formalise this.

Housing shortage

Cubans still cannot sell their homes to anyone but the government, although they can swap housing with government approval - a process that can take years to complete.

Officials at Cuba's National Housing Institute said the decree was likely to be the first in a series in changes to housing legislation.

"This is like no man's land that they are legalising," Oscar Espinosa Chepe, an economist and critic of the government, said.

"It gets rid of that insecurity many people had and alleviates bureaucratic pressure."

Home to 11.2 million people, Cuba suffers from a severe housing shortage.

Officials say they need half a million additional homes, but critics say double that number is required.

Raul has already scrapped bans that prohibited Cubans from owning cell phones in their own names, staying in tourist hotels and buying DVD players, computers and kitchen appliances.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/F15709A6-87F0-488E-8BAA-8A866661A4FD.htm

mykittyhasaboner
12th April 2008, 03:12
i figured theyd be making some capitalist reforms after fidel stepped down.

S.O.I
12th April 2008, 14:48
fuck

lets hope theire socialist allies in the southwest react to this

but i kinda saw it coming, this is a common thing that usually happens in post-revolutionaty communist countries for some reason...

thats why im socialist and not communist :p

Ismail
12th April 2008, 17:04
lets hope theire socialist allies in the southwest react to thisWhat socialist allies? Vietnam and Laos are mini-China's. Only the DPRK doesn't operate on profit motive, but even that's beginning to change.

spartan
12th April 2008, 18:12
People said that Cuba needed Raul as leader so that Cuba could go through a transition period until a younger generation took over.

It now looks like that is the wrong thing to have done and that they should have just had a young party hardliner take the helm.

BIG BROTHER
12th April 2008, 18:35
Dammit pleaze don't tell me that the so feared Raul Castro, who was seen as a communist influence on Fidel by the CIA, is now turning into the seccond Gorgachev(sorry if I misspelled).

House privatization is in my opinion revisionist, since one of the things Marx wanted was to abolish hedertary rights, and this privatization of housing my friends will lead to that.

Holden Caulfield
12th April 2008, 19:23
they shall build more golf courses to attract the rich of america and europe and capitalise on their tourism,

S.O.I
12th April 2008, 20:38
What socialist allies? Vietnam and Laos are mini-China's. Only the DPRK doesn't operate on profit motive, but even that's beginning to change.

dude, thats too far west

Psy
12th April 2008, 21:00
they shall build more golf courses to attract the rich of america and europe and capitalise on their tourism,

Why? tax free off-shore banking would be best way. That way Cuba could loan money to the USA that US companies entrusts to Cuba to evade US taxes, even if the investments fail the US would have to bail out the Cuban banks out so US companies don't go under up because of it, thus making the world financial sector even more screwed up :)

sunfarstar
12th April 2008, 22:04
Cuba NEVER Goes Capitalist.I BELIVE!
VIVA CHE!

RHIZOMES
12th April 2008, 23:26
I had a feeling this would happen...

Fucking revisionists.

BIG BROTHER
12th April 2008, 23:37
Its such a shame, what's next? Dammit it looks as if Cuba is turning from being the only truly free coutry in Latin-America to being once more the whore house of the caribean.

metalero
13th April 2008, 00:47
Enabling working class families to own their modest houses they've rented for years, is now "revisionist"? This is a response to the growing crisis over housing and the burden of restricions of services cubans had to bear to overcome the crisis and the blockade, and not due to some landlords or capitalists interests. Having a modest house, a cell phone or a computer is not gonna make you capitalist for fuck sake!

The Red Scare
13th April 2008, 00:52
Damn guys, calm down. There's noting anti-communist about this at all. In fact, 80% of Cubans already own their own home anyway. Giving pensioners the ability to stay in a home they've lived in for most of their life is a really positive reform.

When Marx, Lenin, et al. talk about abolishing "private property," they're not talking about personal property (i.e., one's home and personal items) but bourgeois property (i.e., private capital). So long as the capital in Cuba remains under public control, socialism in Cuba will continue to flourish.

Remember...the core principle of Marxism is the belief that one should enjoy the fruits of one's labor....and providing workers with the ability to have a stable home and garden plot they can call their own is fantastic.

EDIT: metalero beat me to it. I fully agree with him.

Wanted Man
13th April 2008, 01:08
Well said indeed. Funny responses from the rest of the thread. As if this is the event where capitalism is reintroduced, and we should all go out and post our petty "denunciations" of Cuba. People who defended it yesterday, now saying "we told you so" or "damn, I knew that it would happen".

Come to think of it, it's sad, rather than funny. The people making such crappy posts were probably somewhat hoping for this to happen. Either that, or they're really naive to believe that capitalism can be restored simply by appointing a "bad ruler", all based on a news message about solving housing problems. Oh, and a misleading thread title from some anarchist on RevLeft.

What really is funny is the way ignorant people deal with information coming from Cuba. If you only read the western media and RevLeft, you can come up with some interesting doublethink. Raul is a communist hardliner, but he's more mild and less dogmatic at the same time. Fidel is keeping a lot of influence in the government, yet at the same time, Raul is making a lot of decisions directly contrary to past policies.

Who needs a real analysis of Cuba? We can just believe two completely contrary things at the same time!

BOZG
13th April 2008, 02:09
Last time I checked, socio-economic systems related to the ownership and control of the means of production....

BobKKKindle$
13th April 2008, 03:50
The title of this thread - "Cuba goes Capitalist" - is overly dramatic.

The article suggests that this practice already exists but does not occur within a legal framework, such that this reform will not actually result in as big a change as some other members have suggested. Therefore the danger of capitalist restoration is illusory.

This reform is positive - it will allow people who retire to retain their homes, which is good, because it's unfair that people should be forced to move simply because they are no longer working at a post.

It remains to be seen, however, if this policy will actually do anything to help the people who do not have a home or are forced to accept a low standard of accommodation that does not meet their needs - only a government program of housing construction will be able to solve the current housing crisis. There is currently a shortage of construction materials, and many of Havana's historic districts are suffering from neglect because of a government failure to allocate sufficient resources to the preservation of existing buildings.

Bright Banana Beard
13th April 2008, 05:12
House is personal property, not a private property that put exploitation on many worker.

Schrödinger's Cat
13th April 2008, 05:36
House is personal property, not a private property that put exploitation on many worker.

Precisely. If anything, Raul Castro has only empowered the Cuban workers by allowing them cellphones, personal homes, and computers. Hopefully we'll see parts of the Cuban political system reorganized in the future. On the local level Cuba is a wonderful piece of art, but there is way too much bureaucracy inherited from the Soviet model.

Zen
13th April 2008, 05:43
I'm not so against this kind of reform. It takes a long time and much effort to achieve true communism, and a trade embargo and damaged foreign relations can't much help. The privatization without any kind of government control concerns me, but it might smooth the transition back into nationalized state control.