Stopping interracial marriages - -

[Thine Stalin]

I think that it should be stopped, before the united states becomes a 'black' nation. Blacks have more dominant traits than whites, so even a grandchild of a black, will appear more black than white in some cases.

I feel it is important to limit interracial mixing because when the blacks cease to be the minority, they will become the power in the U.S rather than the whites, and as we've seen in africa, many blacks there, not all, are very angry and vengeful about the white colonial rule, and have taken their revenge in many ways, such as not hiring people because they are white, the united states, has reached a point where we are equal in most area's certainly it needs work, police officers in the south, Los Angeles, but blacks have done back what has been done to them, and do oppress the few whites in their neighberhoods. But neither deserves this, but allowing inter racial mixing will create more of a problem, and it'll be just like the pre-civil rights movement all over, only the white and black role switched around.

I don't want any people oppressed here, but the black population will become equal to the white population WITHOUT interracial marriages, it doesn't need help. Please limit this so there will be less racial fueding, and so the white race is untimatly destroyed, which is what I fear is inevitable if the races continue to intermingle.

P.S don't get the wrong impression from my post as most liberals seem to.

[Guest]

So you believe in this phenomenon called "race"??? What kind of a communist are you?

There is no such thing as race.

I still don't understand how people wish to impose laws onto other people for things they cannot control (their ethnicity, etc).

[Thine Stalin]

Race should only not be involved if some races are considered inferior, but that is not the case. All people are equal, All races are equal, i don't believe in raial laws.

[Mazdak]

OK!!!! Ah, aren't u trying to disprove yourself as being a racist?!! I know this isnt exaclty racist but races will evntualy mix to the point where everyone is the same race. Then the end to nationalism and racism can begin.
And How can we be sure that the black people will be the ones to take over and how can we be sure they would have such vengeful feelings?? WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT!

[peaccenicked]

I presume that you would not call Lenin a liberal but he was against all restrictions on love. You make a fuss about not being racist but you give into racist demands.
What dominant traits? Who cares? What is all this nonsense about. You only seem to be trying to prove that you cannot admit to your racism.

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from Mazdak on 3:44 am on June 22, 2002
OK!!!! Ah, aren't u trying to disprove yourself as being a racist?!! I know this isnt exaclty racist but races will evntualy mix to the point where everyone is the same race. Then the end to nationalism and racism can begin.
And How can we be sure that the black people will be the ones to take over and how can we be sure they would have such vengeful feelings?? WE HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A BLACK PRESIDENT!


South africa is a good example of what happens, I understand why they are exacting revenge, but it doesn't mean I want them to.

Lenin was pretty liberal I thought, its lenin and yuri who are more followers of lenin than I.

[RedCeltic]

And your more of a follower of George Wallace?

[Valkyrie]

Fair enough Stalin,.... we will stop the inter-racial marrying, (just for you) but we will continue to fuck and have off-spring.... if you don't mind.

Anyway, you will be Long dead by the time the last of the pure white race dies out.

Sheeshh, what is wrong with you guys? White separatism, supremacy racism-- is there really a difference?

[STALINSOLDIERS]

Thine Stalin man i hope your not really a racist here, thier should be mixed people like chinese blacks hispanic white the more the better then thier is no racism cause everyone is very mixed...there shouldnt be 1 race there should be at least 2 or more...and not every black person hate a white or hispanic person theres more non-racial then they are racial...the whites are more racial then the blacks....

[Valkyrie]

I am bi-racial myself.. White of Irish descent and Native American, Mohawk six nations Iroquois, a people I might add that were plucked off one by one and by the hundreds by Europeans. There are less than a million Native Americans in the United States today. you don't hear them *****ing about keeping the race pure. Really Thine Stalin, there are enough confederate flag-waving rednecks around to ensure white people will continue on and on in the pureness of their racism and proclaimed supremacy that you don't have to loose any sleep over.

[One Motive]

dont ***** about things you have no control over. idiot.

[Stormin Norman]

Thine Stalin,

The problem with your views on interracial marrage is that it runs counter to free-thinking and free expression. Sex is by far one of the most important self expressions. The only way to inact such an injust law would be to shred the Bill of Rights, which allows for freedom of association. Hell if you eliminate free association bulletin boards and political groups would also become illegal, and there goes your revolutionary movement. In other words, this topic is absurd. Whether or not different racial groups intermingle should be left to the different communities, cultures and families of those groups to decide. This is not a desicion that should be imposed by the state, rather an individuals choice.

[Guest]

This is capitalist Imperial...

LOOK, PEOPLE...

The thing is, "black traits" are more dominant merely in pigment, and the black population of the US is about 11%-12%, so, mathematically, Americans of european decent can't be eliminated genetically. If anything, it will be pure black americans that are eliminated. Most race mixing occurs in more liberal urban centers. The vast majority of Americans live in suburbs and rural areas (of course, it happens there too,but not as much). Even though inter-racial relationships is a political hot-button in the US, it doesn't really happen that often relative to the population. Again, if anything, initial appearance caused by black pigment through interracial breeding will be re-assimilated by the significantly population-dominant european americans.

[Ernest Everhard]

really, who cares...

[Power1]

What are you on about Guest. Race is a sound biological fact. It's just not very popular at the moment.

I am agaisnt interracial marriage because it is destroying the white race. Some people say whites will never die out but according to current trends we will be a minority in every country by 2090.

[Valkyrie]

2090 eh? So, what???? If you're 13 now.. In 2090 you will be 88. If you're even alive... Do you really think you are gonna look white? You're gonna look like a dried up old prune. Besides, you will be loaded with brown spots, naturally developing a brown pigment from the effects of the sun and the massive holes in the ozone. Everyone will!!!!

[Xvall]

Thine, I thought you were just joking about the half-nazi thing, but you're freaggin serious! Good god, you idiot! Race does not exist! There is but one race, and that is the HUMAN race. The only diffirence between white people and black people is the color of their skin, which means ABSOLUTELY nothing.

[man in the red suit]

T.S. if you wann stay here I recomend you stop with the rascist shit. Your just digging yourself a hole, you won't be able to climb back out of. Who cares about race, it is meaningless.

[James]

"I'm not really a nazi"

(said by thine awhile ago...)

[Reuben]

Thine Stalin is ****. I cant be asked say any more. I am sick of trying to argue with racist fuckers.

[Thine Stalin]

All you've done is seem to read the replies half you ignorant little shitheads. I've said nothing racist your moronic little piece of shits.

I have native american blood in me, I'm far from being pure white, according to nazi's I'm not, I have more slavic than nordic aryan blood in me.

I don't see it like, 'oh no, the world will be destroyed by the stupid black people!' I see it as a shame that the white race becomes extinct, but also that it will spread racism and nationalism.

[Moskitto]

I would have to say that I disagree with you and hate you but that's more because the emotion where I feel like I can't live without something started guiding me when I saw your post so I wouldn't take me too seriously with regard to me hating you quite so fiercely.

In English: I think I'm in love with someone who is from annother ethnicity.

[Mazdak]

OK, i have heard that whites are going to be a minority in thwe world, but why blacks? Why not Asians? More than 2 out of every six people live in Asia. Why not say, "hey the chinese are going to breed whites out." I am not the most PC person in the world but i dont believe in this whole crap where, i am from here and you are from there, that makes us different. We are all humans in the end.

[Xvall]

Thine, I don't believe race is existing, and the 'white' people are far from becoming 'extinct' so stop worring. You know, if we ignored all this 'anti-interracial' crap, then we wouldn't have to worry about racism, because eventually, everyone will be so closely merged together, that they cannot target another race without targeting themselves. I have about FIVE ethnic backgrounds, does that make me some sort of 'genetic freak'. Does that affect my intelligence? Make me any stronger, faster, or smarter? NO. It does not. This 'race' concept is stupid. I could care less what anyone's skin looks like, and the world would be better off if everyone was colorblind!

[RedCeltic]

I don't understand what the problem is here really! If everyone was black than we wouldn't need sun block. I'm sure plenty of people wouldn't mind never getting sunburned.

[maxfish17]

Everyone has the right to marry and/or fuck anybody they want, regardless of race, age, gender, or anything else. Who are you to restrict fundamental freedoms like that?

[Michael De Panama]

I can't over-intellectualize an argument with this bullshit. I know you hate when I do this, but I honestly don't care. Fuck you, Thine Stalin.

[peaccenicked]

Thine Stalin. What a f***ed up name. It is becoming plain that your racism is ignorant filth no matter how much you deny it.

[Apache]

If everyone intermarried, wouldn't it be hard to determine who was to be oppressed and who would be the oppressors?
We would all be just shades of brown.

[peaccenicked]

That I think would benefit the oppressed.

[Apache]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 9:03 pm on June 22, 2002
That I think would benefit the oppressed.
And hopefully all of us.

[SU37]

Thine Stalin,The white race is far from being out breeded.Thine Stalin must not know about the sicko-cell!

[Apache]

Quote: from SU37 on 11:40 pm on June 22, 2002
Thine Stalin,The white race is far from being out breeded.Thine Stalin must not know about the sicko-cell!

It’s Sickle Cell you dope; as in “Sickle Cell Anemia”. If you are the vanguard of progressive socialistic thought… may heaven help your cause.

[Moskitto]

If your heterozygous with the sickle cell trait you have partial anemia however you are also resistant to maleria which is why this gene is often found in black people who originate in Africa where maleria is prevalent. However if there are 2 of these genes then the person suffers from anemia and are not resistant to maleria.

Also I think that every ethnicity is going to become extinct because of mixed marriages, but hey, who cares? If it was really so vital to separate races then different ethnicities would have different numbers of chromasomes so they wouldn't be able to breed with each other.

[RedCeltic]

Bahhh who cares? We are going to destroy the earth and kill ourselves off long before we end up as just one gray race.

[Moskitto]

The funniest thing i've ever seen is a website claiming that there was a "white genocide" going on based on the reduction in % of whites in the US (even though the white population was increasing.) However the same website denied the holocaust on the basis that the Jewish population rose between 1935 and 1947 or something like that (The holocaust only started at the end of 1942 anyway.)

This inspired me to write a whole website taking the piss out of the WCOTC.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Paris on 8:32 am on June 22, 2002
I am bi-racial myself.. White of Irish descent and Native American, Mohawk six nations Iroquois, a people I might add that were plucked off one by one and by the hundreds by Europeans. There are less than a million Native Americans in the United States today. you don't hear them *****ing about keeping the race pure. Really Thine Stalin, there are enough confederate flag-waving rednecks around to ensure white people will continue on and on in the pureness of their racism and proclaimed supremacy that you don't have to loose any sleep over.


um, er, they do here in Canada. for example, you can't get status as an Indian (from the bands not from the gov't) unless you have a certain blood quantum of aboriginal blood. and there are issues like if me and my boyfriend (who is Ojibwe (Chippewa)) were to have children, they wouldn't get status as indinas because they won't be indian enough

[Nickademus]

quite frankly RC is right. besides there really is no such thing as a pure race anymore. i'm italian, scottish and english....does that make me "white", no it makes me italian, scottish and english,

my boyfriend is ojibwe and irish....does that make him white? does that make him aboriginal? no it makes him ojibwe and irish.

if anyone is really worried about keeping the white race 'pure' you have to realize you are WAY too late (especially with regards to north america).

i have no problem with white people being proud of their heritage (be it scottish, english or whatever) but that shouldn't stop people from living their own lives. if you don't want to marry someone of another raced, don't. but don't pushit on someone else.

this topic is really quite silly....if i want to marry someone i love its irrelevant if it will cause the white race to die out in 2090...the point is i love him (and i'm going through this right now -- not the marriage part but the dating part). its irrelevant really. we are all humans and where we come from on this planet is just another form of classification...which needs to end.

[SU37]

Quote: from Apache on 10:12 am on June 23, 2002

Quote: from SU37 on 11:40 pm on June 22, 2002
Thine Stalin,The white race is far from being out breeded.Thine Stalin must not know about the sickle-cell!

It’s Sickle Cell you dope; as in “Sickle Cell Anemia”. If you are the vanguard of progressive socialistic thought… may heaven help your cause.
I make one mistake and you pound on it,The real dope here is you Apache.You make stupid signs that say"We killled Che",What type of idiot are you..Apache?

(Edited by SU37 at 11:21 am on June 23, 2002)

[Valkyrie]

um, er, they do here in Canada. for example, you can't get status as an Indian (from the bands not from the gov't) unless you have a certain blood quantum of aboriginal blood. and there are issues like if me and my boyfriend (who is Ojibwe (Chippewa)) were to have children, they wouldn't get status as indinas because they won't be indian enough

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It's similiar in the US. To claim triibal membership the blood ratio needs to be 1/32%. (which is very low actually, that would be going back atleast 5 or 6 generations. One must also have documented proof of ancestory.
But, the purpose of that is not done to claim pure racial blood lines, but rather to pull together a tribe out of the vestages of what is left of them so they can try to make good on treaty/human rights owed them.
I'm 1/4 , non-reservation Indian. My father is 1/2. But in my case, the genetics is non-dominate but rather mixed, blue eyes, fair skin, but Native facial features for the most part. Genetic determination means shit.

Thine Stalin, you are a disgrace to your Native American Heritage.

(Edited by Paris at 5:04 pm on June 23, 2002)

[RedCeltic]

I know that some Cherokee can't claim "Indian Status" because their ancestors left before the trail of tears so they aren't on any rolls.

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Paris on 5:01 pm on June 23, 2002
um, er, they do here in Canada. for example, you can't get status as an Indian (from the bands not from the gov't) unless you have a certain blood quantum of aboriginal blood. and there are issues like if me and my boyfriend (who is Ojibwe (Chippewa)) were to have children, they wouldn't get status as indinas because they won't be indian enough

-----
It's similiar in the US. To claim triibal membership the blood ratio needs to be 1/32%. (which is very low actually, that would be going back atleast 5 or 6 generations. One must also have documented proof of ancestory.
But, the purpose of that is not done to claim pure racial blood lines, but rather to pull together a tribe out of the vestages of what is left of them so they can try to make good on treaty/human rights owed them.
I'm 1/4 , non-reservation Indian. My father is 1/2. But in my case, the genetics is non-dominate but rather mixed, blue eyes, fair skin, but Native facial features for the most part. Genetic determination means shit.

Thine Stalin, you are a disgrace to your Native American Heritage.

(Edited by Paris at 5:04 pm on June 23, 2002)



well here its mostly because of funding. they have to cut people off somewhere because they just don't have the resources for everyone that has some indian blood in them.

but i can tell you that there is a definate riff between indian act indians and bill c-31 indians (those who have 'less' indian blood in them usually through interracial marriage). there is also a riff between on and off reserves indians (my bf suffers from this riff as he is off reserve). the whole situation is aweful

[Reuben]

sorry for asking a stupid question, but significance does getting indian status have?

[Nickademus]

Quote: from Reuben on 6:51 pm on June 23, 2002
sorry for asking a stupid question, but significance does getting indian status have?

i can't answer for the states but I can tell you about Canada.

the biggest thing is that you don't have to pay taxes on things you buy (i.e. gas, cigarrettes etc.). you can also get the band to fund your education (although the bands are very selective). the gov't has to provide public schooling on the reserves, the right to vote in band elections, the right to live on the reserve (and therefore really the right to be a member of your community/culture -- off reserves are treated very differently). there are many many more but those are the biggest ones. without status you can't get any of that. btu really it comes down to the fact that if you don't have status you are going to have an extremely difficult time embracing your culture becacuse you will often be excluded from it.

[samaniego]

You know I dont think having less White people in the world is a bad idea. What do you want to preserve the color or the culture? And I think it's good that blacks are sticking it ti the white man although I think it's in a very small number, Black's have gotten screwd by the White man it's about time they start giving it back. This one's for the people of the sun!

[SU37]

Racist bastard!

[RGacky3]

I am inter racial, norwigen and mexican. Is that wrong TS? I really doubt that inter-racial marriges will change anything, infact I hope that blacks get more power, as well as hispanics.

[Apache]

Quote: from SU37 on 1:28 pm on June 23, 2002
Racist bastard!


(Edited by Apache at 5:41 pm on June 23, 2002)

[Stormin Norman]

Drake,

How can you say that race doesn't exist? Yes, we humans all belong to the human species, since we have the ability to mate with one another. That doesn't mean there are no differences. Many of the differences can be attributed to people living in different geographic areas and having to adapt to their respective environments. Had the races remained isolated from one another we probably would have evolved into different races. Skull size, height, skin pigment, and many other predispositions differentiate the races from each other. The differences are sometimes easily noted other times they are discrete. We share more than 99% of our genetic coding with chimpanzees, and even more with each other, but that is not to say that we are equal in likeness. I guess if we as a species want to evolve and progress, then it might be to our benefit if we acknowledge the strengths of all the different varieties of homo sapiens, but we all should be proud of our heritage. That is unless your parents were communists.

[Edelweiss]

Storming Norman, are you trying to promote racial pride here, or what? If so, you better leave this community right now. I wouldn't say that human races are not existing, but for any progressive thinking human it should be not relevant at all. Like national pride, racial pride is backward and reactionary.

[Stormin Norman]

Malte,

I am not a racist. I was merely trying to dispute Drake's statement that races don't exist. Did you even bother to read my post? Everyone should be proud of who they are, as long as they are doing the right thing. People who divide themselves along racial lines are typically ignorant. I do not think that a person's pride should necessarily be based off there racial background. The fact is that all people should look to their past for inspiration. For example, I am proud of my grandfather, since he was a successfull oil man. I think you read way too much into the statement that all people should be proud of their heritage. I was not speaking white power.

(Edited by Stormin Norman at 2:27 am on June 25, 2002)

[Stormin Norman]

There was nothing wrong with anything I said. Why are you harassing me? I am not the one who started this thread. I am not the one who thinks that cross breading is weaking the white race. That, my friend is a statement which Thine Stalin made. I was only responding to the post. Nothing I said could remotely be construed as racist. Racism is a paradyme which I find abhorent. Samaniego's post is extremely racist. Why didn't you threaten to boot him? Why have you allowed Thine Stalin to continually post his racist views on this site? Are you using this as an excuse to rid the board of somebody whose ideology is opposed to yours?



(Edited by Stormin Norman at 2:41 am on June 25, 2002)

[LeonardoDaVinci]

Thine Stalin, I don't see why you should worry about the elimination of the 'white' race anymore than the elimination of blacks, hispanics, semites or asians. Moreover, this wouldn't exactly be the first time that a race has been virtually erased in north america, at least this time it would be a matter of personal choice rather than ethnic cleansing and colonialism.

Also, I think that the advancement of genetic engineering has more or less announced the start of the human cloning era. An era where you can choose the exact height, skin colour and mental ability of your child.
Inevitably (as it is in the capitalist world) this will become a new industry where companies will sell their technology to the highest bidder, and thus manufacture humans who are beautiful, intelligent, strong and superior in every sense. Consequently, you will be able to distinguish between the rich (who in every sense would be physically and mentally superior) and the poor, who would have to settle for the luck of the draw. So, in a sense, you and your poor black neighbour will be in the same shitty situation in a few decades, so quit worrying about 2090.

[Thine Stalin]

That wasn't even the main idea of it, I was thinking it would create a racist state when the blacks became the majority, because they would be angry at the whites for mistreatment, south africa shows clearly what happened. I don't want the same to happen in the U.S, we're the closest we've ever been to racial equality, and messing up the balance with mixed race children will only set us back.

[Thine Stalin]

And your idea's of whats to come see unrealistic with the rising christian fundementalism setting research back as often as it can. I have no doubt we'll be forced to say prayers in school by 2090

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from samaniego on 7:48 pm on June 23, 2002
You know I dont think having less White people in the world is a bad idea. What do you want to preserve the color or the culture? And I think it's good that blacks are sticking it ti the white man although I think it's in a very small number, Black's have gotten screwd by the White man it's about time they start giving it back. This one's for the people of the sun!


That quote is racist in itself

[Felicia]

I haven't read the entire post, but I think I have read enough! RACISM IS DISGUSTING!!!! It is people like you that I absolutely despise the most. I can handle hearing from just about any close-minded person, but I can't stand racist thoughts. My best friend is biracial. Are you some sort of white supremacist? People of African decent didn't ask to be here! You kidnapped them and brought them here on your slave ships and then sold them to the highest bidder! That's what's repulsing, not interracial relationships.

[Guest]

Interracial marriages must be stopped? What are you going to do, say "you may not marry this woman because her skin is 40% darker than yours? In Today's world people have been marrying and procreating with different races for so long that everybody is a mix. So, really the only way you could start to seperate people is by comparing their skin tones, and dammit you idiot that would mean that a person from California couldn't marry someone from New York. Don't be so ignorant.
Deny people the right to marry whom they choose is assinine. You might as well say, don't love each other either. Is that going to work? I don't fucking think so. If you don't let people get married, that's not going to stop them from having children. What are you going to do to stop that? Kill the child? Kill the mother? You'd be a murderer.

What exactly is accomplished by ending interracial marriages? Oh yeah...nothing.

[AladdinSane]

I wonder what people would look like if every race was mixed?

[RGacky3]

CapitalistImperial, I hate you, why don't you die, go hang your self.

ANY WAY, Thine stalin, There is no way to enforce your idea, and I really think its not a problem.

[Thine Stalin]

Ok, whatever I'm racist you stupid black supremecists (lemme guess if you call a black person this its racist) this is the fucking problem, whites can't even say obvious things without being jumped all over! For fucks sake I'm not even aryan!

Do you believe malcom X to be racist?

[Mazdak]

Malcom X was messed up and his anti white behavior was reactionary.

Malte- Storman Norman didn't say anything really racist, i think people are becoming WAY to politically correct,. all this "African American, Mexican American, Asian American (at least in the US)" , whatever happened to the black guy, the white guy, the chinese guy?

[SU37]

Malcom X is a fat pig!

Thine Stalin has a point,If a white guy throws a rock at a black guy....its a hate crime and the black guy walks away with $10,000.If a black guy throws a rock at a white guy,its called street violence and it ends there.

[Thine Stalin]

I still want the people who called me racist to reply,

is malcom x racist comrades?

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from SU37 on 3:06 am on June 25, 2002
Malcom X is a fat pig!

Thine Stalin has a point,If a white guy throws a rock at a black guy....its a hate crime and the black guy walks away with $10,000.If a black guy throws a rock at a white guy,its called street violence and it ends there.


The second thing made me wonder, I have read books pointing out a black man is 4 times as likely to commit a hate crime, as a white man. And asians have the lowest chance of attacking anyone racially.

[James]

And why do you think they are more likely to make a "hate crime". Could it be that they are angry with something? hmmm, i wonder what could upset a black man...

[Stormin Norman]

Thine Stalin,

Malcolm X was racist when he was with the Nation of Islam. Later on after his voyage to Mecca he stated that he had been ignorant and that he realized all men were his brothers. Malcolm X was on the wrong track during his most reactionary days, but later came to the realization that he was being duped by the ideology of his political group. That is what always happens when you start spitting out views following party lines. Your own judgment becomes warped. I think many of the communists on this web site could take a lesson. Many of them spew the same garbage about the proletariat and the bourgeoisie that has abounded for generations.

[RedCeltic]

As much as I hate to agree with someone who has "Rush Limbaugh is always right. " as a sig, I would agree that some people have a tendancy to shape their ideas to match "party line." I agree with what Eugene V. Debs had said once, "I am a socialist because I believe in humanity." That is the fundemental core principle I follow. Yet some people tend to quote Lenin, Marx or whoever as gospel and tend to think that if they said it than you are required to agree 100% or your not a socialist/communist..etc..

[Supermodel]

Answer to Reuben's question: In the US, tribal membership can entitle you to a share in an enormous sum of money, both tribal wealth and government trust funds. There is also over $10 billion in individual indian trust money held by the government.

Other points:

Che married Hilda, who was at least a quarter Indian.. She states that he loved her exotic features and there is no doubt that he loved Hildita's little native features too.

My husband is 100% german/hun/viking kinda guy, blond hair blue eyes and all that stuff. This time of year he has a tan that is darker than most of my african american friends. So I spend half the year married to a black guy.

There are a lot of really stupid white people. More, one could argue, than any other race. Asians strike me as being quite smart. But that would be racist of me to say so.

I'm a smart white person capable of doing (and thinking) very stupid things. Should I be allowed to marry my german husband who's usually quite smart but has his moments of sheer insanity as well?

Is this an intelligence/master race thing or a color wheel are you an autumn or summer kinda color?

By the way, I'm a spring and I like my lipstick pink. Blood red when I'm trying to be socialist or Latina.

[PunkRawker677]

I will not even bother reading the pages of this thread. Thine Stalin - you are a racist pig for even suggesting that interracial marriages are "bad". FUCK YOU

[marxistdisciple]

This thread is pointless, the usual generalised crap.
It's not about races...it's about people, they are all different. There are stupid white men, stupid black men, stupid asians and stupid chinese people. Maybe we should ban stupid people then?
What a profoundly stupid idea.
I want to marry an American, should that be illegal too?

[Xvall]

Quote: from SU37 on 3:06 am on June 25, 2002
Malcom X is a fat pig!

Thine Stalin has a point,If a white guy throws a rock at a black guy....its a hate crime and the black guy walks away with $10,000.If a black guy throws a rock at a white guy,its called street violence and it ends there.


Are you fucking serious? I get the CRAP beat out of me all the damn time by 'white' people, I never get any money! I don't know what you're talking about. Unless either side says something racist, it's not a hate crime. I only called Thine a racist because He wasnts to stop 'interracial' dating/marriages. What about me? I'm REALLY 'interracial' I guess, since my mom and dad are from COMPLETELY diffirent ethnicities. Should they be broken up, or SHOT, Stalin? What if I wanted a girlfriend, who should I date? Do I have to find another Mexican/African/Arabic/Indian mixed female in order for the date to be 'legal'?

[Xvall]

I'm with Malte, Norman. Racial Pride is the most STUPID thing in the world. You shouldn't be any more Proud of your 'race' than you are Proud of your skin color. You didn't DO anything to be proud of. You never accomplished anythign for your 'race'. You were born that way, and it wasn't your choice. Get over with it. Race doesn't exist. I don't care if you think we would have 'evolved' into anything else. We DIDN'T. This strange belief that Africans who weren't even BORN during the time of slavery will somehow RISE up and seek vengance for their long forgotten ancestors is just plain stupid. No 'race' is going to seek power Thine, calm down, and no 'race' is going to become 'extinct'.

(By the way, I just LOVE how none of the capitalists cared about Thines post, prohibiting people from dating each other, when APPARENTLY they care about rights and freedom, But IMMEDIATELY leaped on Saminago when he posted that.) [And by the way Saminango, That did sound a little racist, please refrain from saying stuff like that.]

[Guest]

Race was invented by capitalists to artifically segregate the world into chunks so that it could be "inslaved" easier! DO SOME READING!

[Guest]

I'M BIRACIAL JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW BUT IT IS BEING COMMON THESE DAYS TO SEE A KID WITH SOMETHING ELSE IN THEM AND IF THAT KEEPS UP I THINK IT WILL STOP ALL THE RACE BULLSHIT SUCH AS RACIAL PROFILING AND ALL THAT JUNK AND COPS CAN'T JUST BEAT SOMEONE CAUSE THERE BLACK OR ARABS WON'T ALL BE TERRIOST ANYMORE I'M JUST THINKING AHEAD ON THOSE LINES A LOT OF CHANGE WILL COME OUT OF INTERACIAL MARRIAGES AND I THINK THEY WOULD BE GOOD CHANGES. AFTER THAT MAYBE PEOPLE CAN GET BACK INTO OH YOU ARE MY BROTHER OR YOUR MY SISTER CAUSE WE ARE HUMANS.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Supermodel on 4:37 pm on June 25, 2002

There are a lot of really stupid white people. More, one could argue, than any other race. Asians strike me as being quite smart. But that would be racist of me to say so.



I don't think that there are more stupid "white people" than any other race. I think that is a pretty dumb statement, SM, and you are usually more thought out and objective than that, so I am a little disappointed, I expect more from you than that. I think every race has an equal proportion of geniuses, idiots,and everything in the spectrum between those 2 extremes.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Guest on 7:54 pm on June 25, 2002
Race was invented by capitalists to artifically segregate the world into chunks so that it could be "inslaved" easier! DO SOME READING!


That is laughable! Race is just our insinctual observation of different physical features. "Invented by capitalists"? Race issues were around thousands of years before capitalism!!!

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Drake Dracoli on 7:23 pm on June 25, 2002

(By the way, I just LOVE how none of the capitalists cared about Thines post, prohibiting people from dating each other, when APPARENTLY they care about rights and freedom, But IMMEDIATELY leaped on Saminago when he posted that.) [And by the way Saminango, That did sound a little racist, please refrain from saying stuff like that.]


I care, Drake, and I have responded to Thines Post, I am one of the 1st to respond.

[Moskitto]

I don't mean to sound racist against any race, but SM might have a point. In the UK Indian and Chinese communities have excelled in academic areas however Black, Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities have not as much. White communities fall somewhere in the middle.

However, this might be due to economic and social factors as Chinese communities tend to be richer than other ethnic communities except white communities. And many ethnic minorities realise they have to work harder so they won't be prejudiced against as much.

As I said, I don't think it's racial differences, just economic and social factors.

[Xvall]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 9:17 pm on June 25, 2002

Quote: from Drake Dracoli on 7:23 pm on June 25, 2002

(By the way, I just LOVE how none of the capitalists cared about Thines post, prohibiting people from dating each other, when APPARENTLY they care about rights and freedom, But IMMEDIATELY leaped on Saminago when he posted that.) [And by the way Saminango, That did sound a little racist, please refrain from saying stuff like that.]


I care, Drake, and I have responded to Thines Post, I am one of the 1st to respond.


You're the exception, and I appreciate that CI. Thank you.

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from Guest on 7:54 pm on June 25, 2002
Race was invented by capitalists to artifically segregate the world into chunks so that it could be "inslaved" easier! DO SOME READING!


Idiot, blacks had slavery before white imperialism even existed, slavery exists whether capitalistism exists or not. Whites had white slaves, blacks had black slave, noone gave a fuck about a race when slavery came about.

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from Moskitto on 9:42 pm on June 25, 2002
I don't mean to sound racist against any race, but SM might have a point. In the UK Indian and Chinese communities have excelled in academic areas however Black, Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities have not as much. White communities fall somewhere in the middle.

However, this might be due to economic and social factors as Chinese communities tend to be richer than other ethnic communities except white communities. And many ethnic minorities realise they have to work harder so they won't be prejudiced against as much.

As I said, I don't think it's racial differences, just economic and social factors.


I agree with this completley, as homo-sapiens all of our brains are the same, admittedly there are physical differences, you don't see a black man playing hockey often, and there are few whites playing basketball. Anyway, because brains are same there is no, super intelligent race, their raising decides their intelligence and any birth defects might also.

[peaccenicked]

racial profiling is pre-capitalist perhaps it goes back to the earliest war. It is easier to kill someone you think is inferior. The point is racial profiling is dangerous. Secondly it serves no sensible function. In other words it sucks big time. Some people do it harmlessly enough to react to racist stereotyping but let us nip in the bud.
It is no place in a decent future for humanity. ThineStalin should be thoroughly ashamed of himself but I doubt he has a conscience.

[Thine Stalin]

Another thing added, I'm not worried about ANYONE losing racial superiority, white, black whatever. I'm worried the black race which will out number the white race, will take out revenge upon the whites for previous mistreatments, this isn't racist, its what'll happen, Look at the fuckin' former european colonies in africa! This in turn will create racism in europe, where whites I don't think will have lost their dominance by then, and create racism towards the blacks and we'd be back where we started. I don't give a fuck if you're mixed race or not! Its god damn irrelevant, I haven't said, "I hate mixed race people! They bring the apocolypse! Lets kill them all!" HAVE I?! God! You people..

[Thine Stalin]

Quote: from peaccenicked on 1:22 am on June 26, 2002
racial profiling is pre-capitalist perhaps it goes back to the earliest war. It is easier to kill someone you think is inferior. The point is racial profiling is dangerous. Secondly it serves no sensible function. In other words it sucks big time. Some people do it harmlessly enough to react to racist stereotyping but let us nip in the bud.
It is no place in a decent future for humanity. ThineStalin should be thoroughly ashamed of himself but I doubt he has a conscience.



You misunderstand, I am afraid of racial profiling, when we're almost rid of it.

[peaccenicked]

Racial Revenge? I think that is racist scaremongering, trying to stir it up' is unnecessary and dangerous talk.
A path to 'racial' awareness that is about instilling fear in the white communiy which is racist enough already.
It is sign of your ignorance that the main tradition of anti-racism in the world is liberal ant not about the replacement of one racial superiority for another.
In other words, why dont you shut up and try and find out what is really going on?

[Thine Stalin]

Whatever, whites aren't going to hold power for a million more years, I know that, but why rush a process that needs to be slow. Its not just scaremongering, its fucking obvious, there are regular racial attacks on whites in zimbabwe, whites are denied jobs for their skin color, its like 1950 USA only on another continent, with the races reversed, why shouldn't I be worried if it happened there? Why shouldn't you be worried? Communists will soon be protecting the white race in about 100 years, if the mixed races trend continues, the whites are becoming a smaller percentage in relation to other races anyway, don't rush it. Espcially if it'll spread racism, you want mixed race people to suffer too? Because they will.

[Xvall]

Quote: from Moskitto on 9:42 pm on June 25, 2002
I don't mean to sound racist against any race, but SM might have a point. In the UK Indian and Chinese communities have excelled in academic areas however Black, Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities have not as much. White communities fall somewhere in the middle.

However, this might be due to economic and social factors as Chinese communities tend to be richer than other ethnic communities except white communities. And many ethnic minorities realise they have to work harder so they won't be prejudiced against as much.

As I said, I don't think it's racial differences, just economic and social factors.


Nothing to do with race. People assume because African countries have low IQ scores, Africans are 'stupid', and because Oriental countriies have High IQ score, Asians are 'smart'. Moskitto, this has nothing to do with race. It is generally a cultural thing for oriental countries to be strict. Japan has high IQ scores because they raiset their children like that. Africa was a place more concerned about survival than IQ scores, and therefore they will not have put in as much interestin education. But rather the gathering of resources to meet their basic needs. It has nothing to do with this stupid 'race' concept.

[Mazdak]

Exactly, it is how a person is raised, not where a person is raised. Africa is filled with worn torn nations who have to worry about surviving let along education.

[peaccenicked]

I fail to see how banning interracial marriages will fix any of your fantastic vision of future race war. It just so happens that there are and will be hotspots of racial conflict in countries such as Zimbabwe which are more about land reform rather than race. Communists are about getting to the source of racial problems ie property social relations, not about putting prohibitions on peoples most tender feelings. Defending the 'white race' is best done by transforming capitalist property laws.Communists will defend any group of people as at it arises but maintain the size of a group of people is for nature to decide. It is insane for communists to advocate state interference in people's loves lives. It is down right immoral. It is only ever been practiced by racist states. Your preventive measure is useless and can only hurt people. What are you thinking about?

[Stormin Norman]

Draconian Drake,

To respond to the charge that:

'You're the exception, and I appreciate that CI. Thank you. '

What no love for Stormin Norman? Although, I am more of a laisse faire, free enterprise sort of guy. I am offended that you would lump me into the same category as socialist/communists. Yuck!

[RedCeltic]

Rush Limbaugh is always right.

How can anyone 'lump you into the same category as socialist/communists'

When your sig labels you as an idiot?

Or.. at least a supporter of a big fat idiot.

[Xvall]

Quote: from Stormin Norman on 11:59 am on June 26, 2002
Draconian Drake,

To respond to the charge that:

'You're the exception, and I appreciate that CI. Thank you. '

What no love for Stormin Norman? Although, I am more of a laisse faire, free enterprise sort of guy. I am offended that you would lump me into the same category as socialist/communists. Yuck!



Uh, I never thought you were a socialist/communist. And I wasn't aware that you went against Thines idea for more 'racial' segregation.

[Lardlad95]

Racial Segregation? I've been gone two week and this is what happens, thats Fucked up

[Moskitto]

Which is precisely why I said it was more to do with economic and social factors.

[I Will Deny You]

First of all, plenty of people have kids outside of wedlock. Ban interracial marriages and people won't stop dating and fucking outside their race or having mixed-race children. They'll simply do it without a marriage certificate and a big white cake. (Or should we make heterosexual interracial sex a crime?)

If you really want black people to stop multiplying at a higher rate than white people, you should campaign for universal health care, comprehensive sex-education and insurance coverage for the pill so that black people will have access to birth control.

Your flimsy idea relies on a direct connection with looking/being considered "black" and feeling black. Culturally I am considered black, but I consider myself just as white as I am black. (I'm a 50/50 mix.) Not all mulattoes feel this way, but very, very few feel so black that they would pass a law that discriminates against white people. Also, while it's true that a person who is 75% white and only 25% black may appear to be black, one of the stupidest ideas you have ever presented on this board is that a person who is 75% white might favor legistlation that discriminates against white people. How many mulattoes do you actually know? You give the impression that you've got no idea what you're talking about.

You seem to think that interracial marriage might promote racism. But research isn't exactly on your side. It's widely believed that integration is one of the best ways to fight racism. Because America is getting less racist all the time, I imagine that it will naturally be even less racist than it is now by the time non-whites are the majority. If interracial relationships are accepted, America will be even less racist. And because integration makes black people less racist (not only whites), black racism would really be decreased if America were more integrated. (And don't say that you support integration but not interracial relationships, because they go hand-in-hand.)

Your "proof" comes from Zimbabwe, which is far more segregated than America. Also, you didn't have any examples of mulattoes passing racist laws. You hate the black supremacist movement as I do, but what you don't seem to realize is that "pure" blacks are represented disproportionately in these movements. "Mixed" blacks are more likely to be turned off by that crap. Interracial relationships, which go along with integration and a general decline in racism, are badly needed in Zimbabwe. As for anti-white segregation in America, you don't have a convincing argument that it will ever happen.

Lindsay

[El Che]

Let me just introduce an idea here: Racial issues are irrelevante.

Who cares if one "race" out numbers the other or we get all mixed up or whatever.

[Pythagoras]

LOL if racists are forbidden to post their views here may I ask why you are even having this discussion?

[Edelweiss]

You are right, FADETHEBUTHCHER, I should have locked this thread long time before.