Victims in the war against the "evil empire" - Just so you k

[uth1984]

Heres a brief list of the countries destroyed by US anti-Communist efforts:

Cambodia
Russia
Vietnam
Burma
Cuba
Chile
Argentina

So many more.
Millions have died directly or indirectly because of the fight against Communist governments. Whilst Reagan called it a fight for liberty, a battle against the evil empire, lets not forget the truth: socialsts in poorer countries dont want to be the slave of business.
Dont you love Uncle Sam?

[Guest]

Yes, I can not believe the atrocities put into play by the American gov't in it's attempt to destroy other socialist or communist countries. There must be something about socialism/communism that is dangerously threatening to the American way of life that makes our pig-faced politicians lash out at these cultures. They do not have the same values/beliefs that we here in our money-driven capitalistic society. Capitalism is based on exploitation and those people do not believe in exploitation, even if it is to their financial benefit. We need to fight to let those other countries practice what they believe so that one day we can rise up and fight against the most powerful gov't in the world, the United States gov't.

[Felicia]

Yeah the U.$. Has pulled a lot of shit on other countries in trying to achieve their foreign policy objectives. I recently gave a speech on U.$ sponsored terrorism, I included socialist countries the U$ has screwed over. Some how the speech became less and less about state sponsored terrorism and more so focused on things that the U$ had done that has really pissed me off!! I see that you are new here, welcome to the board!! :)

[Anonymous]

you forgot the countrys that were destroyed by U$ for pure greed!

[anti machine]

Communism scares America. That's why Truman started that goddamn doctrine: fear and greed. When will America learn? Seriously, something must be done!

[Capitalist Fighter]

Equally valid statement:

Here is a list of the countries destroyed by USSR anti-capitalist ventures:

Cuba
North Korea
Vietnam
Hungary
Poland
Czechoslovakia
Bulgaria
Afghanistan
A myriad of Baltic States and other Satellite States

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from anti machine on 4:58 am on June 14, 2002
Communism scares America. That's why Truman started that goddamn doctrine: fear and greed. When will America learn? Seriously, something must be done!


And capitalism scared the USSR, so we fought a cold war, and capitalism won.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from uth1984 on 11:58 am on June 12, 2002
Heres a brief list of the countries destroyed by US anti-Communist efforts:

Cambodia
Russia
Vietnam
Burma
Cuba
Chile
Argentina

So many more.
Millions have died directly or indirectly because of the fight against Communist governments. Whilst Reagan called it a fight for liberty, a battle against the evil empire, lets not forget the truth: socialsts in poorer countries dont want to be the slave of business.
Dont you love Uncle Sam?



Russia? A victim? They spent 50 years trying to destroy the US. And actually, emerging 3rd world countries are choosing capitalism, not oppressive socialism or communism. People prefer liberty and freedom to pursue their own success over state controlled mediocrity!! Don't you see? The world is going capitalist, not socialist or communist!! How many people tried to "break in" to the USSR? 0!!!! How many people immigrate to the US? Thousands every day!!! Those are the real world facts, not re-hashed theory and dogmatic statements!!!

[RGacky3]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 6:36 pm on June 14, 2002

And capitalism scared the USSR, so we fought a cold war, and capitalism won.


I hate you, why don't you die, go hang your self.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from RGacky3 on 12:18 am on June 15, 2002

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 6:36 pm on June 14, 2002

And capitalism scared the USSR, so we fought a cold war, and capitalism won.


I hate you, why don't you die, go hang your self.

LOL

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from anti machine on 4:58 am on June 14, 2002
Communism scares America. That's why Truman started that goddamn doctrine: fear and greed. When will America learn? Seriously, something must be done!


What do we have to learn? We are the worlds most powerful empire!!! It is you communists, socialists, and anarchists that must learn to respect the land of the free and the home of the brave!!!

[IzmSchism]

blowback. is what you get.

why is it that we have to argue like this, as if everything is black and white, good and bad....die you capitalist piece of shit, grab a spoon and eat out my ass you commie bastard.....

lol. I wouldn't be so fast to equate the land of the free and the home of the brave to be such a respectable thing, just as much as I have read of the terrible atrocities of people like stalin.

[uth1984]

Capitalist Imperial, my factually challenged friend, no people "broke into" (to use your odius racist term) into the USSR because they didnt have to -- they were allowed in.

[uth1984]

You put Cuba and Vietnam in ur list of countries riuned by Communis. Now Ive visited both and they doing pretty well. Oh shit, there are all those landmines and Napalm victims in Vietnam. All the fault of those evil reds. Nothing to do with GI Joe drpping bombs on Vietnam. Oh yeah.....and that lack of medeicine in Cuba. Nothing to do with the US ban on trade?
Capitalist imperial: someone hasnt thought their post it through

[uth1984]

A potted history of Cambodia for Capitalist Imperial.
1 -- A democratic moderate Socialist Government comes to power
2 -- The CIA oust this governmet, putting a hugely unpopular Right Wing puppet in power
3 -- The Kymer Rouge take advantage.
4 -- 25% of all cambodians die.
If the CIA had stayed out, Pol Pot wouldnt have got in.

[Guest]

"I hate you, why don't you die, go hang your self."

Translation: I am incapable of thinking logically or formulating a good agrument. I am jealous that you are so much wiser, but am too lazy to acquire any real education.

[Xvall]

Wouldn't you be the idiot for debating with this 'incapable' porpouse. I highly doubt 'wiser' is a word, and if it is, it is spelled wrong. Also, it's 'aqquire', which you also spelled wrong. Hmm, who's 'illogical' now? And as far as a 'good argument', your two line posts have been far from sufficient. You almost make me miss 'Raegan Lives'. Well, not really..

[Guest]

It isn't aqquire, it is in fact, acquire. Are you from England or something? Besides is that all you got, spelling errors. How pathetic.

[STALINSOLDIERS]

actually usa has destoryed more then what the ussr did...and still usa is still destorying more and capitalism didnt win yet....

[Xvall]

Quote: from Guest on 11:57 pm on June 16, 2002
It isn't aqquire, it is in fact, acquire. Are you from England or something? Besides is that all you got, spelling errors. How pathetic.


All your CIA buddy has is 'the gulag', so give me a break. How else was I supposed to reply to a two line post? Can't really debate when you're not making any sense..

[PunkRawker677]

"It isn't aqquire, it is in fact, acquire. Are you from England or something? Besides is that all you got, spelling errors. How pathetic. "

Translation: theres no way i can debate your post.. so instead ill point out a typo to make you look bad..

now to the point.. neither "evil empire" was good.. both fucked up alot of countries and killed lots of people.. but the U.S.S.R. did kill ALOT more than the U.S. (to my knowledge)

[Guest]

Draconian Drake,

I have offered pages of debate, which you have shied away from. Every time I post something longer then two lines it remains largely ignored, by you. I fear it is because you are incapable of criticizing an argument without attacking the person directly. Ad homonem attacks are the last resort of the loser of the debate. Take a look at some of my other posts, as I am sure you will recognize the writing style. If the fails to work look for the posts from guest that are full of spelling errors. Why don't you start editing my papers for me?