Mara Salvatrucha - "MS-13"

[S.O.I]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha
http://www.knowgangs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_UO_FgG4IE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnBbW5ZfBEM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvadoran_Civil_War

I want to know your opinion on this gang that has just totally exploded in the Americas... I saw that documentary on NGC but most on that channel seems kinda biased. More links would be helpful. Thanks.

[bgirlskttlez]

yea ive been hearing more and more about this gang. there was a huge scare last week about their initiations. people were being told not to pull over if they were rear ended because when they get out of the car, the person would shoot them. ive been trying to find more info about them because it seems like they are getting bigger in America

[Faux Real]

They're just your typical gang... those scares and chain letters warning of gangs killing you if they flash their headlights or rear end you are a bunch of urban legends fueled by anti-immigrant racism.

[BIG BROTHER]

they seem pretty savage indeed, but the cause is the misery caused by the capitalist who ravage el salvador and create misery.

[bootleg42]

Mumia Abu-Jamal actually spoke of this topic of criminals in the inner city and makes get points:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZHRe28Cdk

This is an EXCELLENT video and I'm even trying to spread this to all my friends (since we're all poor, inner city, the type Mumia is speaking about here) and hopefully it'll get to them. I dare say that this is a MUST WATCH for any revolutionary leftist in the U.S., especially of any that live in the inner city (like me).

[Ultra-Violence]

MS-13 and any other sureno gang is just s sympton of class society gang members usauly being the losers of society who have ABSOLUTLY! NOTHING! TO LOSE! literlay and get together and at the expense of others move up a bit but the media really distorts how big they are i think its really just a scare tatic cause when i went to Guatemala to visit my family i thought i was goana see ms-13 and mara-18 every where and what i found out is that their all just in the the capital and only in the worst parts parts were the army or police wont even go to so its sad but they are deadly so dont get that twisted i like to call them children of the revolution cause thats exactly what they are

[Bright Banana Beard]

Mumia Abu-Jamal actually spoke of this topic of criminals in the inner city and makes get points:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSZHRe28Cdk

This is an EXCELLENT video and I'm even trying to spread this to all my friends (since we're all poor, inner city, the type Mumia is speaking about here) and hopefully it'll get to them. I dare say that this is a MUST WATCH for any revolutionary leftist in the U.S., especially of any that live in the inner city (like me).

Since I hard of hearing, you would summarize it?

[S.O.I]

I hear what you all are saying, but the thing is that this is NOT "just another street gang. This is the worlds most dangerous street gang, according to murder statistics, and it has gone from 25k members to over 100k members (the size of a small country) almost worldwide, in just a few years, and the number is EXPLODING every day. This gang has almost guerrilla / urban warfare like tendencies.

There is even an award winning movie coming out about this gang pretty soon called "Hijos de la Guerra" or "Children of the War":

www.hijosdelaguerra.com (http://www.hijosdelaguerra.com)

Trailers:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hijos+de+la+guerra&sitesearch=

There are three official trailers.

But this is definately not just another street gang. The MS-13 makes Bloods and Crips seem like boyscouts.

[AGITprop]

I don't know much about them.
What I do know is that where I went to high-school, that was their turf.
They are quite violent.

In one case they assaulted someone with a hammer because he was the cousin of someone they had beef with.

They shot a tourist from Ontario because his shoe-lace colours where those of an opposing gang.

It's unfortunate that many people are victims of needless violence because they want to keep their 'street cred'.

[Bright Banana Beard]

And what sad is that I also had friends who belongs to MS-13, however our school take it seriously and he deported back to Mexico.

[Faux Real]

I hear what you all are saying, but the thing is that this is NOT "just another street gang. This is the worlds most dangerous street gang, according to murder statistics, and it has gone from 25k members to over 100k members (the size of a small country) almost worldwide, in just a few years, and the number is EXPLODING every day. This gang has almost guerrilla / urban warfare like tendencies.

There is even an award winning movie coming out about this gang pretty soon called "Hijos de la Guerra" or "Children of the War":

www.hijosdelaguerra.com (http://www.hijosdelaguerra.com)

Trailers:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hijos+de+la+guerra&sitesearch=

There are three official trailers.

But this is definately not just another street gang. The MS-13 makes Bloods and Crips seem like boyscouts.They're unpoliticized gangsters (and if they were their goal is along the lines of a capitalist mafia). Thus irrelevant to revolutionary causes and remain so as long as they remain unpoliticized/mafiosos.

Only gang that plays a positive force in its community is the Latin Kings & Queens.

[Ultra-Violence]

I hear what you all are saying, but the thing is that this is NOT "just another street gang. This is the worlds most dangerous street gang, according to murder statistics, and it has gone from 25k members to over 100k members (the size of a small country) almost worldwide, in just a few years, and the number is EXPLODING every day. This gang has almost guerrilla / urban warfare like tendencies.

There is even an award winning movie coming out about this gang pretty soon called "Hijos de la Guerra" or "Children of the War":

www.hijosdelaguerra.com (http://www.hijosdelaguerra.com)

Trailers:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=hijos+de+la+guerra&sitesearch=

There are three official trailers.

But this is definately not just another street gang. The MS-13 makes Bloods and Crips seem like boyscouts.

Um again i think youl really buying into the media here DONT GET ME WRONG THEY ARE DEADLY VERY DEADLY AND DANGOURES! but for example here in L.A the GANG capital of the world MS aint anything really their just another sureno gang they dont run anything but ur typical gang crime stuff...BUT! in El Salvador they are a threat because johnny law isnt goana die for shit pay and the army dont want to die facing these guys their the left over remnants of the civil war some of their members are trained to kill with precesion but OUTSIDE OF THAT ZONE Their not much again on of my lil bro friends is a 14 year old member of MS. This is just the media scare mongering people about immigrants and how were goana rape and pilage thier womyn and country its crap trust REALLY BLWON OUT OF PROPORTION! WAYY OUT! i mean yeah 100k memebers so what all ms gangs are seperate chapters and function autonomously EXCEPT salvador. Biker Gangs are something to be more worried about