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Anonymous
9th June 2002, 23:53
Can a corporation lie and get away with it? Not if Marc Kasky has anything to say. In 1998, the San Francisco activist and former marathon runner sued Nike for what he said were false claims about worker conditions in their overseas factories the company made in ads in an effort to appear like a kinder, gentler shoemaker. Nike said the ads were protected under the First Amendment. Earlier this month, the California Supreme Court ruled that Nike would have to face the music in court.




Court says Nike must defend its PR
Free speech doesn't protect labor claims

San Francisco Chronicle

May 3, 2002



The California Supreme Court delivered a stiff warning to businesses, ruling that a San Francisco man can sue Nike Inc. for false advertising for allegedly lying about working conditions at Asian factories where its athletic shoes and clothes are made.

In a major free-speech decision, a divided court found that public statements the sportswear giant made in defending its treatment of overseas workers were "commercial speech" and subject to lawsuits under the state's consumer protection law.



By a 4-3 vote, the justices rejected Nike's argument that it was protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech because it was defending itself against critics accusing the company of maintaining sweatshop conditions at its factories in Vietnam, China and Indonesia.



The company's statements denying those conditions were made in the mid- 1990s in press releases and in letters to newspaper editors, heads of universities and athletic departments.



Nike's attorney, David Brown of San Francisco, said the company is deeply disappointed with the ruling and may ask the U.S. Supreme Court to review the case.



The state court said it was not preventing a business from defending its labor practices. "It means only that when a business enterprise, to promote and defend its sales and profits, makes factual representations about its own product or its own operations, it must speak truthfully," wrote Justice Joyce Kennard in the court's opinion.



Legal experts say the decision will severely limit what companies can say publicly about their working conditions by leaving them vulnerable to litigation.

"Free speech is the loser here," said Ann Brick, an attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union in San Francisco, which filed a brief in support of Nike. "It opens businesses up to false advertising suits whenever they speak out on an issue of public debate when it has to do with their business practices."



However, Nike's Brown said the company takes comfort from the fact that the high court did not rule on the merits of the case -- whether Nike made false statements about working conditions at its Asian factories. Nike insists its statements were true.

The company, which is headquartered in Oregon, has more than 700 factories around the world, run by contractors, with more than 550,000 workers.

Nike officials say they have taken several measures in recent years to improve workplace conditions, which include requiring workers to be at least 18 years old, maintaining cleaner air in the factories and increasing wages more than 40 percent for some Indonesian workers.



DECISION FOR CONSUMER RIGHTS



In ruling against Nike, the court adopted a new standard in defining what is unprotected "commercial speech."



"When a corporation, to maintain and increase its sales and profits, makes public statements defending labor practices and working conditions at factories where its products are made," Kennard wrote, "those public statements are commercial speech that may be regulated to prevent consumer deception."



The ruling prompted angry dissents from the three most conservative justices.

Justice Ming Chin said the majority had "unduly trammeled basic constitutional freedoms" of businesses responding to public criticisms. "When Nike tries to defend itself from these attacks, the majority denies it the same First Amendment protection Nike's critics enjoy," the justice said in an opinion joined by Justice Marvin Baxter.

In a separate dissent, Justice Janice Rogers Brown accused the court of essentially muzzling companies by adopting a simple standard for defining commercial speech. The court "creates an overbroad test that, taken to its logical conclusion, renders all corporate speech commercial speech," she said.



The ruling is a setback for companies that rely on "image" advertising, in which a firm focuses on selling its good reputation -- including its working conditions -- and not just a product.



S.F. MAN'S SUIT PROCEEDS



Thursday's decision allows San Francisco resident Marc Kasky to pursue his lawsuit against Nike, challenging the company's statements that it maintained safe, clean working conditions at its overseas factories and paid its workers local minimum wages.



Alan Caplan, the attorney for Kasky, said the ruling is a vindication for his client. "If a corporation is going to talk about its labor practices or the working conditions at its factories, they cannot be deceptive," he said.



Kasky, former executive director of Fort Mason Center, filed his lawsuit in 1998. The suit demanded that Nike give up any profits gleaned from its allegedly false commercial statements and tell the public the truth about its overseas factories. San Francisco Superior Court Judge David Garcia threw out the suit, ruling that Nike's statements were protected by the First Amendment. A state appeals court agreed with Garcia. But the state Supreme Court, reversing that decision, sent Kasky's case back to the trial court.



San Francisco attorney Michael Rubin said the ruling will help a group of garment workers and sweatshop critics he is representing who have accused Gap Inc., J.C. Penney Corp. Inc. and other companies, in a separate Superior Court lawsuit, of using misleading advertising

ID2002
10th June 2002, 01:01
"Most" corporations are pigs when it comes to dealing with labour codes, ethics, and overseas relations. Their attitudes are "make money..anyway possiable". Because the US is run by the corperate mentality, nothing happens to shut down abusers.

....I really dislike corperate America....
....they are like Vampires, who live to sue each other to death....

Capitalist Imperial
10th June 2002, 20:52
I don't remember anyone in theese southeast asian countries being forced to work in these conditions. You can't compare the US standards to standards in other nations. Most of the time these "sweatshop" workers are all to willing to do what they do. I still disagree with sweatshop labor, like most americans do, but we are not responsible for dictating labor laws in other nations, or what overseas labor markets will yield.

STALINSOLDIERS
10th June 2002, 21:05
you see where ever thier capitalism thiers slaves.....with out slaves there is is no rich......thats why thier is communism everyone created equal.....the capitalist are evil and cruel to the human race..

Capitalist Fighter
11th June 2002, 16:33
The capitalist serves as an innovator and sells his service to society for a just price. He is the ambitious, audacious and idealistic man who breaks through the barrier of doubt and mistrust to produce and provide for his brothers and sisters. He serves as the beacon for innovation, success and contentment. He illuminates the path to discovery and prosperity and above all puts himself behind the needs and wants of society who he comes to serve.

Yes some is propaganda but i quite like it. :)

(Edited by Capitalist Fighter at 4:34 pm on June 11, 2002)

Needssomeconvincing
11th June 2002, 23:19
CF, A just price!! Not only do Nike's cost 100 euros and their slaves are paid peanuts they are treated like dirt.
CI, they sort of are made work at these sweatshops. The goverments offer huge tax subsities to the corporations in exchange for investment. The goverment offers the large workforce of underage workers. The unemployment figures are astronomical in South East Asia and that means the Corporations can offer pathetic wages. Ask yourself : How many people do Nike employ and how many of them are paid the recommended EU equal wage (around E5 an hour for over 18s) ?

Capitalist Imperial
12th June 2002, 01:19
If that is what the labor market will yield due to unemployment in southeast asia, then that is what it will yield. It sounds like it is not Nike's problem as much as southeast Asias economic problem. The workers in southeast asia have no alternative, or they would be threr, right? So what about the idigenous southeast asian businesses? Are you telling me they pay more than Nike? No,for the most part they don't. Nike is just adjusting to the labor standards of it operating area. The workers at nike are not suffering any more than any other southeast asian worker. Again, as usual, not americas fault, southeast asias fault.

Anonymous
12th June 2002, 22:43
SouthAsia fault? U$ has all the third world countrys under its control because of the so called third world debt! and there is no debt1 they have alredy worked like slaves to the capitalists pigs!

Fabi
13th June 2002, 14:57
"Nike officials say they have taken several measures in recent years to improve workplace conditions, which include requiring workers to be at least 18 years old, maintaining cleaner air in the factories and increasing wages more than 40 percent for some Indonesian workers. "

that is just so cynical... to talk about a 40 percent raise..... yeah, right... of course they still had that teenytiny bit of inflation, meaning they actually often had way less money than before... right....

Capitalist Fighter
13th June 2002, 15:04
Fabi, I think it was Reagan Lives who showed us that it is not in fact Nike that sets up their factories abroad and are responsible for their conditions but the nation in which they are set up in as they must follow their laws and guidelines. Nike merely supply the people with jobs and the nation's in turn dictate and control the conditions in which they work. The responsibility lies on the countries who provide their people with such infamous conditions and not in fact the corporations.

Fabi
13th June 2002, 15:07
yeah right.... they still exploit the people.
it's not as if they HAD to move to sweatshops in third world countries. how convenient that it's not their fault.

Capitalist Fighter
13th June 2002, 15:16
Fabi free enterprise means that one can establish and extend their business or enterprise abroad, including poorer nations. Not however to exploit and plunder. Nike for example has broadened its scope around the world, unfortunately some nations such as Indonesia which shelter Nike factories do not provide their population with adequate and enforced guidelines and rules that must be followed. Nike set up their business abroad which is legal, the nation's in which they set up the factory abroad are responsible for what Nike do in their country and ultimatley override their decisions and actions. The laws they have made for their working population and followed by Nike and simply put into effect.

Fabi
13th June 2002, 16:04
so why then did all those kind shoe-people (nike etc.) moved out of south-korea etc, as soon as they had formed worker's unions?

the countrie only have shitty laws because they hope to attract big corporations... and as soon as the people's conditions are improving most investors move out as soon as they came. leaving the economy in a worse state, probably also having an impact on inflation and definetely on unemployment... and i dont think that the governments of those countries FORCE nike/reebok etc. to have shitty conditions in their factories? they might not do anything about it, but that is NO excuse for the corporations to ABUSE that freedom... is it?

Capitalist Imperial
13th June 2002, 17:58
Typically, when a country starts to industrialize, a string of events occurs in the manufacturing sector that leads to economic development. This sequence of events usually starts off with light
manufacturing (a flannel shirt factory and then a T-shirt factory and finally a jeans factory), leading to moderately technical, light manufacturing (outerwear and performance sportswear, sports shoes), on to light technical consumer products manufacturing (radios, calculators, wristwatches) and finally to technical durables (automobiles, computers). Sometimes these occur in tandem (Korea), sometimes in sequence (Taiwan), and sometimes the country
graduates without the final stages and heads directly into the post-industrial service economy (Singapore, Hong Kong).

Nike has been and continues to be a driver of the first two steps in the countries where their products are manufactured. In fact, it is doubtful that any other light manufactured brand has built a record of jobs creation comparable to the one Nike has built over the past 30 years. At present, there are about 750,000 jobs directly engaged in manufacturing our products; Korea
alone has exported well over 500 million pairs of Nike shoes; and Nike accounts, after just three years manufacturing there, for 7 percent of all of Vietnam's export earnings. These facts demonstrate Nike's role in promoting economic development through working with companies in Asia and around the world.

anti machine
14th June 2002, 04:54
I STILL don't buy shoes from Nike.