Maoism Vs Trotskyism

[heiss93]

Could someone please explain to me the main differences between the following aspects of Maoist and Trotkyist Theory that seem somewhat similar to me

1. Opposition to Socialism in One Country VS Opposition to Peaceful Coexistence

2. Takes on world revolution

3. Analysis of state capitalism in Soviet Union VS concept of revisionism

4 Permanent Revolution Vs Continuous Revolution

4. Trotkyist emphasis on anti-bureaucracy and ideology over experts VS Maoist Cultural Revolution

5. Idea of leaping over stages of development

These are some of the similarities I have noticed but perhaps their are others.

[AGITprop]

3. Analysis of state capitalism in Soviet Union VS concept of revisionism

*Ahem*

Deformed worker's state, not state capitalism. Very much different.

[Trenches Full of Poets]

4. Permanent Revolution Vs Continuous Revolution


Despite the misleading titles, these are very different ideologies. Permanent revolution deals with how a workers' state is achieved, and continuous revolution deal with the workers' state itself.

Otherwise, pretty much, yes. I consider myself a Trotskyist-Maoist.

Also- "leaping over stages of development" as you put it, is pretty much Permanent Revolution.

[Dros]

Trotskyist-Maoist.

:lol::lol::lol:

There is no such thing. Maoism is necessarily an extension of Marxism-Leninism (what Trots would refer to as Stalinism). This was explicitly stated by Mao who was consistently supportive (although not uncritical) of Stalin's theory.


1. Opposition to Socialism in One Country VS Opposition to Peaceful Coexistence

I fail to see the similarity. Maoists uphold the theory of socialism in one country and denounce the Khrushchevite revisionism of "peaceful coexistance" and the "party of the whole people".


2. Takes on world revolution

Right. Maoism recognizes that uneven developments created by the capitalist mode of production means that revolution occurs unevenly throughout the world. Thus, the success of world revolution is the success of the proletariat in different countries seizing power over time.

Trotskyism suggests that the revolution will occur very rapidly and evenly throughout the world simultaneously. This has even led some Trots to oppose actual revolutionary movements on the grounds that the rest of the world isn't ready to follow.


3. Analysis of state capitalism in Soviet Union VS concept of revisionism

These are the same. Revisionists within the party set up state-capitalism through a counter-revolution even within the party.

This is opposed to the un-materialist Trotskyist theory of "deformed worker's states". Trotskyists usually (although not always) will advocate protecting countries deemed to be "worker's states" even if they are blatantly capitalist and imperialist opposed to Maoists who reject the defense of state capitalist/social-imperialist entities.


4 Permanent Revolution Vs Continuous Revolution

That's going to require further explanation on your part regarding what you need explained.


4. Trotkyist emphasis on anti-bureaucracy and ideology over experts VS Maoist Cultural Revolution

Again, I don't see the similarity.

Cultural Revolution is a way of counteracting revisionism within the party and a way to abolish the old capitalist way of thinking and approaching things.

Hope that was helpful. If you have any questions feel free to pm me.:)

[Trenches Full of Poets]

There is no such thing. Maoism is necessarily an extension of Marxism-Leninism (what Trots would refer to as Stalinism). This was explicitly stated by Mao who was consistently supportive (although not uncritical) of Stalin's theory.

Says the New Communist Stalinist Maoist. New Communism is a students' movement which advocated for a time social democracy, as well as Castroism and the Cuban Revolution. Revisionist much?


I fail to see the similarity. Maoists uphold the theory of socialism in one country and denounce the Khrushchevite revisionism of "peaceful coexistance" and the "party of the whole people".

Have you even read the essay on it? I take it not.


I am busy now, so have not the time to respond the rest of this bull.

[bezdomni]

New Communism is a students' movement which advocated for a time social democracy, as well as Castroism and the Cuban Revolution. Revisionist much?

The "New Communist" movement was very strongly Mao-inspired. If you look at the SDS and especially WUO, you will see a lot of support for Mao and the GPCR. While they weren't actually Maoists and did support a lot of revisionism, even the most hardline anti-revisionist Maoists will give credit to the new communist movement where it is due.

Also, the WUO and SDS had very close ties to the BPP and black national liberation movement...which was largely specifically Maoist.


Have you even read the essay on it? I take it not.


What essay are you referencing? Have you read it? :P