Are you one of my accusers? - Since I can't find out another

[Anarcho]

Malte has stated several times that the reason I am restricted is due to the complaints of several 'members'.

I have since made several requests to face my accusers, asked the nature of the complaints, etc. and have been stonewalled.

So, I ask the populace... did you complain about me and why? Mayhaps we can come to an agreement.

Here's hoping this works.








I figure if lenin can get his privledges back, I may have a chance... hehehe

[Vladimir]

Hey you said nothing about me, so i have no problem with you i never complained about you, i dont think so anyway, but i hope you can come back in, fully.

[Anarcho]

Thank you IG. Sliante!

[James]

I don't have anything against you.

[Reuben]

I have nothing against you.

Although Malte was telling the truth when he said people complained, I feel you should be allowed in. Especially given we have lenin who abusesa poeple by saying "fuck off to Israel with all your jewish freinds" wondering around freely.

[Supermodel]

Not me, I complain to people's faces, er, I mean, computer screens.

Remember, we are nothing but a collection of virtual personae. Why do you give a merde about it?

[Felicia]

it wasn't me, man. I don't complain much.

[Michael De Panama]

I do complain a lot, but I have nothing against you.

[lenin]

this reminds me of nazi germany. after the deed was done, no-one wants to own up to it.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Typical communist fare, oppression, silencing those who you disagree with, restricting freedom of speech.

[Xvall]

CI.. Hush up..
I get silenced in AmeriKKKa all the time. As a matter of fact, a teacher recently made me remove my Che shirt because it spreads 'propoganda'. Ah yes! The joys of free speech! Of course, the kids who went around calling me a stupid 'Sand Nigger' weren't silenced.

This is a CHE-LIVES board.. See CHE-LIVES.. for CHE admirers. I have no idea why you're here in the first place. We're not 'silencing' anyone. There are BOARD RULES. And these rules, like other rules in your AmeriKKKa must be FOLLOWED. And the rules clearly state that Capitalists must remain in the Capitalism V.S Socialism section. You never see me complaining about the government 'Silencing' me because I'm not allowed on military and restricted areas. So don't complain..

[Capitalist Imperial]

What your teacher is doing in unconstitutional, you should fight it, and you would win. I'm not surprised he tried to make you take it off, though, american public schools ooze socialism, and i don't like it.

[Michael De Panama]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 6:53 pm on June 6, 2002
Typical communist fare, oppression, silencing those who you disagree with, restricting freedom of speech.


Typical capitalist fare to stereotype communists based on Pravda-like descriptions.

[Michael De Panama]

None of us drink water, either, just vodka.

[Capitalist Imperial]

did you have borscht for dinner last night???

[Mac OS Revolutionary]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 7:17 pm on June 6, 2002
What your teacher is doing in unconstitutional, you should fight it, and you would win. I'm not surprised he tried to make you take it off, though, american public schools ooze socialism, and i don't like it.


Uh oh, you better stay of those public roads they just ooze socialism.

[Capitalist Imperial]

I don't mean public=socialism. Besides, I think that certain aspects of this country should be socialized (welfare if used correctly, free education, even health care on some level). Our roads are pretty simple, we pay the tax, we use the roads. Our public schools are different, they are people dealing with people, using bureacracy and personal views to push agendas. There is no one on my freeway telling mew what I can drive or even wear. Big Difference.

[Moskitto]

Anyone ever been to Pravda's website? Their news is surprisingly unbiased on a lot of global issues such as Israel/Palestine. Seriously.

[lenin]

moskitto, i'm not sure about that. i don't read the english version, but a headline in the russian version a couple of months ago read:

"are the palastinan suicide bombers liberating themselves from the jewish fascists?"

the article then basically went on to say, yes they are!

another good old pravda headline read:

"the state of israel was founded on the myth that was the holocaust"

[Edelweiss]

Quote: from lenin on 10:50 pm on June 6, 2002
moskitto, i'm not sure about that. i don't read the english version, but a headline in the russian version a couple of months ago read:

"are the palastinan suicide bombers liberating themselves from the jewish fascists?"

the article then basically went on to say, yes they are!

another good old pravda headline read:

"the state of israel was founded on the myth that was the holocaust"

So you support suicide bombers and you think that the holocaust was a myth?

[Reuben]

TRhat was a good headline? never heard of Pravda, but on the strength of what Lenin said they sound like a bunch of ****s.

Who are they?

[lenin]

lol, no! when i say that was a 'good old pravda headline', i mean these are typical pravda headlines. i think both the headlines are stupid.

[Moskitto]

I dunno, the English version didn't have headlines like that, It just said what was going on in really plain language. I mean the English version had reports of Israeli civilians being killed by gunmen rather than just talk about palestinian dead like many left-wing newspapers do.

[Reuben]

Ah, sorry lenin.

[lenin]

ah, my mistake comrade. you read the web-site pravda and i thought you meant the newspaper. they are two different things. the web-site split from pravda in '99 (i think) and is more centre-left but still keeps in close contact with the party. pravda the newspaper is the official mouth piece of the russian communist party.

[Moskitto]

ah that would explain it.

[Capitalist Fighter]

In reference to the topic, well surely someone must have accussed him. No shame in owning up.

[Mac OS Revolutionary]

Quote: from Capitalist Imperial on 10:28 pm on June 6, 2002
I don't mean public=socialism. Besides, I think that certain aspects of this country should be socialized (welfare if used correctly, free education, even health care on some level). Our roads are pretty simple, we pay the tax, we use the roads. Our public schools are different, they are people dealing with people, using bureacracy and personal views to push agendas. There is no one on my freeway telling mew what I can drive or even wear. Big Difference.

And how are privately funded schools any better?

[Anarcho]

Annoyingly enough, I don't think my accusers probably post here much. This particular forum is irritating if you don't want to argue/debate/namecall.

I've admitted that I first came here with a "capitalist friendly" mindset. But that has since changed, due to both my readings in other forums and my personal experiences.

To date, nobody has claimed that they were the ones complaining. Mayhaps someone with access to CC could illuminate who my detractors were?

I'm more irritated that they didn't talk to me, just asked Malte to ban without any discourse.

[peaccenicked]

I dont see your name in the CC.
Is there not a thread somewhere where Malte condemns anarho capitalism perhaps that mindset is too repugnant. I agree wth Malte on that but if you have moved ground. Good luck to you. Maybe you good do some good positive posting round here. God it needs it.

[Lefty]

what have people complained about?

[Anarcho]

peace- I'm not sure. I was never told specifically, just that I was "not left enough".

As for Anarcho-Capitalism, well, I had thought it was a decent idea, but as I read more and learned more, I think that it would turn into an abusive system wherein the corporations that would emerge would be the ultimate and only power in the world.

I'm not sure what I am. I came up left-libertarian on the Political Compass, although I no longer remember my exact co-ordinates.

[Fires of History]

Sorry to have been so long in posting, but I never check the Soc v Cap forum because it's a waste of time.

Anyway, I'll own up. I was one of several who voiced that you should be in Soc v Cap. I'll just leave it at that because I'm not going to go back and forth forever about my reasons.

But let me voice some concern. I feel that more than ever Che Lives needs a charter of sorts. Something more than, "No posts which are rascist, anti-semitic, knowingly false and/or defamatory, hateful, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy." Or maybe I'm missing some statement of purpose somewhere?

I just think there needs to be a definitive statement on who and what is acceptable here. Are we trying to create a forum for just Che admirers? Just Socialists? Just Communists? Just what??? It all seems very arbitrary to me, that's all. I mean, in your defense Anarcho, I would much rather have you posting all over than Supermodel. Why her and not you?

There's simply no statement of purpose; no clear "what is Che Lives trying to be." No wonder things have been described of late as "chaotic."

[Anarcho]

Thank you, FoH, for telling me that you were one of my detractors. I'm not entirely certain why, or what exact point I had tried to make (although I do have some ideas).

What I'm hoping for is to get enough of the people who had complained about me to maybe change their mind.

There are people who post in all forums who are inflammitory, immature, and vastly under-informed. And yet, because they fervently wave a red flag, they are allowed and I, who only tried to seek knowledge, am restricted.

And FoH is right, much of what occurs here is pointless. People argueing over the same points, Capitalists who use the USSR as the benchmark of Communism, and Socialists who claim that the US is behind all the ills of Capitalism.

FoH, please PM me, or something. I would love to get a chance to persuade you that I'm worth a second chance.

[guerrillaradio]

Anarcho - I was not one of them. I have voiced my dissent to your restriction before, and I will do it again. I, for one, always enjoyed reading your posts, they were refreshingly open-minded and balanced.

FoH told me of his charter idea on PM once, and I have to say I'm inclined to agree with him. I think Malte should spell out clearly to all new forum members what he will and won't allow. I think that anti-semitism should be punished with a complete banning, personally, but it's not my decision.

And to anyone complaining of restrictions on freedom of speech, just remember, this is a bulletin board, not a state.

[BOZG]

I was under the impression that you were an anarcho-capitalist and I mentioned that in a thread in the CC.