August 1952: Stalins racist purges. - disgusting actions of

[Reuben]

ON the twelth of August 1952, 13 members of the JEwish Peoples anti-facist committee were executed. This commitee had originally been set up by stalin to try to enlist jewish efforts to fight Nazism and those from the committee who were executed included some of his most ardent supporters.

Those executed included yiddish poets itsik ffeffer, Leib Kvitko and Peretz Parkish. yiddish Writeres david Bergolson and Shmeul Halkin as well as r benjamin zuskin who was the leading actor at the moscow state jewish theatre.

Feffer one of the yiddish poets to be executed had toured the world during the war in his uniform as a red army Colonel raising millions of pounds from jewish audiences to support the soviet war effort.

After the war a big patriotic drive was taken up by the russian authorities who even began celebrating czarist expansionism. They had decided that all plays must celebrate russians in terms of scientific acheivement etc. Jewish novelist Ilya Ehrenberg was even to make the names of his characters 'more russian'.

It was in this atmosphere that a witch hunt ensued with jewish choirs and drama tgrous dissapearing. In the autonomous jewish region of Birziobizhan, a vast library of yiddish works was destroyed. The witch hunt was not dissimallar to mcarthyism, not least in the sense that many of those targetted in america shared the dsame ethnic background as those targetted in russia

It was in this context that the members of the Jewish peoples anti facist committe mentioned earlier were executed not because theuy were trotskyists or zionists or whatever but because they were yiddish writers and jews.

[PaulDavidHewson]

Stalin Targets the Jews.
In examining the question of whether Stalin was a Jew exterminating Christians, it might be relevent to examine how he treated Jews.


In our context, developments in the Soviet Union, especially after 1948 -the year of Zhdanov's mysterious death and the "Leningrad affair"- are of greater importance. For the first time after the Great Purge, Stalin had a great number of high and highest officials executed, and we know for certain that this was planned as the beginning of another nationwide purge. This would have been touched off by the "Doctor's plot" had Stalin's death not intervened. A group of mostly Jewish physicians were accused of having plotted "to wipe out the leading cadres of the USSR." 30 ...Moreover, the very content of the absurd accusation against the physicians, that they would kill off people in leading positions all over the country, must have filled with fearful forebodings all those who were acquainted with Stalin's method of accusing a fictitious enemy of the crime he himself was about to commit. (The best known example is of course his accusation that Tukhachevski conspired with Germany at the very moment when Stalin was contemplating an alliance with the Nazis.) ...
The most dramatic new element in this last purge, which Stalin planned in the last years of his life, was a decisive shift in ideology, the introduction of a Jewish world conspiracy. For years, the ground for this change had been carefully laid in a number of trials in the satellite countries -the Rajk trial in Hungary, the Ana Pauker affair in Rumania, and, in 1952, the Slansky trial in Czechoslovakia. In these preparatory measures, high party officials were singled out because of their "Jewish bourgeois" origins and accused of Zionism; this accusation was gradually changed to implicate notoriously non-Zionist agencies (especially the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee), in order to indicate that all Jews were Zionists, and all Zionist groups "hirelings of American Imperialism." 32 There was of course nothing new in the "crime" of Zionism, but as the campaign progressed and began to center on Jews in the Soviet Union, another significant change took place: Jews now stood accused of "cosmopolitanism" rather than Zionism, and the pattern of accusations that developed out of this slogan followed ever more closely the Nazi pattern of a Jewish world conspiracy in the sense of the Elders of Zion. It now became startlingly clear how deep an impression this mainstay of Nazi ideology must have made on Stalin -the first indications of this had been in evidence ever since the Hitler-Stalin pact- partly, to be sure, because of its obvious propaganda value in Russia as in all of the satellite countries, where anti-Jewish feeling was widespread and anti-Jewish propaganda had always enjoyed great popularity, but partly also because this type of a fictitious world conspiracy provided an ideologically more suitable background for totalitarian claims to world rule than Wall Street, capitalism, and imperialism. The open, unashamed adoption of what had become to the whole world the most prominent sign of Nazism was the last compliment Stalin paid to his late colleague and rival in total domination with whom, much to his chagrin, he had not been able to come to a lasting agreement. 8


Thus, it is clear that not only is the claim that Bolshevism was a Jewish plot to commit genocide against Christians a canard, but the number one culprit of Soviet mass murder was himself an antisemite and might have tried to finish what our Nazi-apologists' hero started, viz.the total annihilation of the Jewish people in Europe.


(http://www.holocaust-history.org/bolshevik-canard/)

[PaulDavidHewson]

....Yet it was not to be. Stalin was ready to start killing off all of Russia's Jews as a means of getting rid of an internal obstacle and of provoking his Capitalist enemies. Yet the plan backfired when Stalin was assassinated by some of the same Jews who in an alternate reality would've frozen and/or starved in a permafrosted wasteland. This is another oft overlooked fact of history. The lists of Jews had been drawn up, the railroad cars prepared, the unheated hovels in Siberia built. Yet he was poisoned by Khrushchev and unknown others the day before the Jew killing plan could be set into motion. Khrushchev of course became the USSR's leader and the first to denounce Stalin, which was really no surprise considering he was the one who assassinated him.....

THIS IS FROM A PRO-STALIN SITE
(http://www.geocities.com/antidemocrat2000/stalin.htm)

[lenin]

not avoiding the subject, but stalin wouldn't kill them for nothing. i would guess they deserved to die.
anyway, stalin was right in his paranoia because it was damn jews who killed him! he died very mysterioulsy and, IMO, it definatly had something to do with leading jewish doctors.
i am not going to deny stalin was an anti-semite. he was. as a small boy in gori, he used to throw pigs into a local synagogue, but the jews you mentioned were almost certainly enemies of the people.
i'm going to research this matter to get you the real reason why stalin had these jews executed.

[Reuben]

I await your response, though I feel I have provided pretty clear evidence of peple who were not enemies of the people in any way, being purged because of their ethnicicity and their association with yiddish (the national language of jews in eastern europe)

[Reuben]

I would like to see PROPER evidence specific to why those I have talked about deserved tyo die.

I would be very suprised if you could defend these terrible acts of racism.

[Edelweiss]

Shit lenin, I'm already regreting that I have let back you into the other forums...

[lenin]

well, it appears i can't find anything specifically relating to these men who were killed. a possible reason could be the popularity of the bund amongst the jewish prolateriat of the USSR. stalin could have seen them as a threat and the fact that stalin, IMO, was killed by jews, could of justified this (playing devils advocate here). i don't know really, i haven't got enough information but if stalin killed them JUST becasue they happened to be jewish, it was a stupid thing to do and the didn't deserve it. remember, 1952 was only in the last two years of his life. paranoi had already begun. this could be another reason. i will continue to search for the real reason though.

[lenin]

this subject is now intruguing me and i would like to get to the bottom of it. i just can't see the reasoning for stalin killing for the sake of ethniticity. the man, IMO, was not a racist. and why was he never so openly anti-semitic? i'm not askng that as a cover for him, i am just wondering his reasoning behind this. i know stalin did some pranks on jews as a kid, but nothing to suggest a real hate like hitler had.
where did you get this information and where do you suggest looking for more info on these anti-jewish purges.

[PaulDavidHewson]

use google.com and use a couple of key search words, like: Stalin jew kill (or purge etc)

[Fabi]

lenin, i was really sort of pissed when i read your reasoning for the killing of jews under stalin...

fortunately you sort of have retreated from that opinion and look as if you were trying to find some real reasons, be they of any kind...
.... man... i was getting sort of worked up, up there....
;)
as others, and obviously at least malte and reuben, can understand... ;)

[lenin]

ok, i've sort of done some research on this and here is my opinion. it appears that stalin was paranoid over the question of soviet loyalty. the new state of israel was founded in 1948 and he suspected many soviet jews to be more lyal to israel than the soviet union. he identified the jews killed as zionists, or he killed jews because he thought they were poisoning patients (the jewish doctors that is). if this is true, the doctors deserved to be killed and the zionists imprisoned. if it was not true, nobobdy deserved anything. however it does seem after researching the matter, that stalin was actually planning on his own 'final solution'. it looked like stalin was going to order mass execution of jews because he felt they were a threat to the regime. as it turned out, he was killed (IMO) by the very jewish doctors he was planning to kill.
the real truth (without going into top secret KGB/NKVD files) is going to be hard to come by. maybe stalin was planning his own holocaust or maybe it was part of a zionist conspiricy. you will have to decide that (although i'm pretty sure which one you will pick).

[PaulDavidHewson]

thanks Lenin, you've proven that you can be objective in your post.

Well, I can agree with you that Stalin was on various matters very "efficient" and (semi)"competent", but as it happens is that most people here tend to have a Humane nature and don't like killing anyone for certain reasons.

So, when you talk loosly about jewish people and other people deserving to die, you can expect people to have a fit. Try to handle this with tact and compassion and people will treat you with more respect.
If you've seen Schindlers list, saving private ryan(movie or series) and other WWII movies/documentaries or read books, school education then you can understand why people don't want anyone telling that they "deserve" to die.
To many of them died already.

Also they have already ""deserved"" to die in almost the entire history of mankind.
They were targetted by the Romans and so on. And in modern history by USSR, Germany, etc.The have been made scape goats everywhere in alot of countries for things that went bad.
Much like you would shout at your little brother when you knock your head against something or drop something.

So you can see that people are protecting a haunted people, and not without reason.

[Reuben]

thank you for responding although I feel you have sidestepped the issue.

If we are talking about zionists (from any ethnic background) then they should be opposed, as should doctors who poison their patients.

Yet I do not see how this is relevant to the many examples I have given of people who were neither zionists nor doctors purged because they were jews and because of their association with the yiddish language. It is very easy, when confronted with issues of anti-semitism, to simply talk about zionists instead of jews, yet many of those purged were stalinists.

You suggest that it hinges on whether the zionists were conspiring and whether their was a jewish docotrs plot (which i do not believe), yet I really DO NOT see that the actions of some jewish doctors , should determine whether other jews such as itsik feffer deserved to die simply because of a shared ethnicity.

Furthermore, if Stalin was so keen on purging zionists, then why did he not purge his own NON-JEWISH ambassador to the U.N. conference post-war who expressed his SUPPORT for a jewish state in occuppied palestine.

Finallly you contradict yourself by talking about a) the popularity of the bund iamongst jews which you say stalin feard and B) that stalin was paranoid tha jews would be zionists.


The fat is that the bund were completely ideologically opposed to zionism. ANway that is off the point.


I have seen nothing to absolve that pseudo egalitirian, from the disgusting acts of racism I oulined at the begginning of this post. I am not having a go at you for that as I know it can be hard to do research on issues like this.

[lenin]

like i said, we will never knwo the truth but my personal opinion is this. if they were zionists and were conspiring against the USSR (which you haven't really dissproved). they deserved to die. if they were loyal to the USSR, did nothing wrong and were just killed by stalinist paranoia, they didn't deserve to die.

[Edelweiss]

NOONE DESERVES TO DIE! (Well, except scum like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot etc.)

[Reuben]

Well if they were zionist conspirators (which they were not) then maybe Stalin could have substantiated this with a fair and open trial as should happen in a civilized and demcratic society.

[lenin]

how do you know they weren't zionist? the one things i am having trouble getting past is stalins racism. it just doesn't make sense. he (unlike hitler) showed no hint of racist leanings in his speeches or his writings. he was slightly anti-semitic as a child but most within the USSR were. it was just for pranks, nothing serious. why would he just decide to start his own holocaust? it could of just been his paranoia i suppose but that doesn't add up either. none of this seems to add up reuben. it seems you are giving me this from a very biased opinion. you are just dismissing stalin as a racist, but, as i said, there is no other evidence that stalin was a racist at all. as a bolshevik, his speciallyity was nationalities! he was the party theorist of nationalism! lenin ureged stalin to write about the question of nationalism in the USSR! why would lenin trust stalin on such an importan issue if stalin was racist? this does not make any sense.