what the fuck?

[lenin]

i just went to post a thread in 'chit chat' and it said i can only post in this forum, why?

[Michael De Panama]

Because Malte wants to keep this place as crowded as possible. Also, because you're a fascist.

I appreciate the effort Malte, but it's seriously causing too much chaos in this particular forum.

[El Che]

It must have something to do view your views on race issues. Thats the only reason that would make Malte act, totalitarian views are accepted on this bb. Notice that I`m not emiting value judgements on these policies, I`m simply telling it like it is. You got a problem with that take it up with Malte coz he calls the shots.

[STALINSOLDIERS]

yeah me to lenin i only can post here........but lenin racism isnt good dont sat shit like that and call your self lenin man its just a big no no......malte is worse then stalin hes a ***** he bans extremist cause hes a pacifest a little winni.

[Edelweiss]

You said it yourself when you introduced yourself here as a national bolshevik. National bolshevism is a deeply rascist ideology and has nothing left in a leftist community. If I would tolerate you, other national bolsheviks would follow and I want to prevent that.

[Thine Stalin]

I lean toward national bolshevism in my ideals, I think I'm very nationalist, but as long as we don't mention our 'racism' their should be no problem, I've kept my mouth closed and only occasionly babbeled on about it at fade's forums. If you restrict me now because I admit it, then you may aswell bann everyone to Svs.C. I'm sure you'll agree I haven't been racist, and I'm sure the other stalinists will not be racist either except for maybe an occasional slip here which wouldn't be said disrespectfully, yuri never used racism to insult people, he said it maturally, and it angered me to see him restricted.

[lenin]

yes but i've said nothing racist! i am not a racist! my main (realistic) political aim is a new USSR. the national bolsheviks want this too. but unlike kprf, NBP work in the baltic states, belarus and ukraine. they are a party for a new USSR. thats why i support them. not because i am racist. i think the ban should be lifted.

[Michael De Panama]

Quote: from lenin on 11:51 pm on May 29, 2002
ok, with this next comment you are going to think i am worse than hitler, but let me explain my reasons before you jump straight in.
if i was head of the communist party in russia, i wouldn't let jews join. not because i don't necessarily like jews, but because of the way they were treated in USSR. i would naturully think that they would be out for revenge. in UK or USA communist party, no problem, anyone could join, but not in russia. the divide between jews and communists has gone too far!
we all like to think that we are all equal but lets face it, we are not, or we are, but only few people think like that! we have treated each other disgracefully in the past 2000 years and in some cases, there is no chance of reconsilliation! one of these cases is jews and russian communists. another example would be a pro-slave trade party (stupid example i know!), they wouldn't let blacks join would they. because they would fear sabotage.
again, don't take my comments as anti-semitic bullshit. i'm just giving you the facts.

[lenin]

thats bullshit de panama! i gave my reason for that and why it would only apply to the russian communist party! you've put that completely out of context!

[Nateddi]

You are excluding people simply for being a certain ethnicity. thats racism

[James]

You are excluding people simply for being a certain ethnicity. thats racism

No, they are being excluded for being morons!

Now they are saying that they are nationalists!!! I personally believe in breaking down our walls, not creating new ones with nations. These guys are oh so cummunist...

James

[STALINSOLDIERS]

man oh man im confused about this racism crap.....who is a racist .....fuck racism

[lenin]

i am NO RACIST!!!! you people are like capitalists! you are twisting things to suit you! i am not a racist!!!!

[Michael De Panama]

Racist.

[peaccenicked]

national bolshevism is an oxymoron. Bolshevism was a
promoter of proletarian internationalism. The russian revolution had a national character but so do all revolutions. The problem of world communism has been one of uneven and combined development. History has not yet finished with this question. The notion of national bolshevism is totally reactionary.

[lenin]

not necesarilly.

bolshevism is the russian brand of communism. it supports the resurrection of the soviet union. thats why i support them.

[Anarcho]

Getting back toward the OP, I think that Malte should review bannings/restrictions every now and again. I'm sure there are folks that have seen the error of their ways and made changes to the way they post, or changes in the way they think.

And lenin, as much as I may not like it, it is Malte's board to do with as he pleases. I was restricted with no chance to defend myself, nor a chance to face my attackers. I have no recourse, other than to *****, but I know that to be counter productive. In the end I can only hope that Malte will maybe see the error of his ways, if such exists.

But there is a need for some restrictions. If I, or anyone else decided that the best way to make a point is to log in and flood the "theory" forum with counter-revolutionary dogma, I should be banned.

But there should be a balance, and there should be a chance to defend oneself. Otherwise, it all smacks of the show trials of the Stalinist era.

[Field Marshal]

If there is anything that I have learned from the Lyceum forum from the National Socialists, it is that Nationalism is not based on hate and racism. It's about the stability on the nation itself. People like Hitler and Patrick Beauchanan and neo nazis just use hate to cloud their love for their nation.

But I don't know if that is Lenin's view on things, maybe he does hate, exclude....ect. He should explain himself.

[lenin]

why should i have to explain the fact that i am proud of my country? does that mean any russian who waves a hammer and sickle is racist?
i love the hammer and sickle, i loved the soviet military parades when i was younger, i loved celebrating may day in USSR, i loved the fact that my nation was a respected super power, i loved the fact that my country was the firs socialist nation ever, i love the fact that my ancestors overthrew there bourgeois oppresors, is that enough? don't hold it against me because your country (USA i presume) is a capitalist bourgeois nation. you may not be proud of your country, but i am proud of mine.

field marshall, just in case, this post isn't entirley directed at you.

[Anarcho]

I think the problem with Nationalistic thought is that Lenin (at least on paper) sought to dis-associate the Proletarian Revolution from national boundaries. So when you proclaim a nationalistic idea, you are separating yourself from the rest of the worlds workers.

However, I think a modern thinker can see the fallacy in going totally against a nationalistic thought pattern.

[Xvall]

Quote: from lenin on 1:45 am on June 1, 2002
why should i have to explain the fact that i am proud of my country? does that mean any russian who waves a hammer and sickle is racist?
i love the hammer and sickle, i loved the soviet military parades when i was younger, i loved celebrating may day in USSR, i loved the fact that my nation was a respected super power, i loved the fact that my country was the firs socialist nation ever, i love the fact that my ancestors overthrew there bourgeois oppresors, is that enough? don't hold it against me because your country (USA i presume) is a capitalist bourgeois nation. you may not be proud of your country, but i am proud of mine.

field marshall, just in case, this post isn't entirley directed at you.


First of all, the Soviet Union was not really much of a socialist state. Other than the fact that Lenin and Marx are supposed to be calling an END to the 'state', (While the state exists, there will be no freedom, when freedom exists, there will be no state.) the USSR was actually fairly capitalistic, especially during it's later years. The Soviet Union was not a respected supoerpower, it was a feared one..

[RedSovietCCCP]

Drake dracli state your source!!!!!!!! As far as I'm concerened thats all a bunch of hearsay

[Xvall]

Want me to quote the manifesto?

[RGacky3]

Quote: from Malte on 7:59 pm on May 30, 2002
You said it yourself when you introduced yourself here as a national bolshevik. National bolshevism is a a deeply rascist ideology and has nothing left in a leftist community. If I would tolerate you, other national bolsheviks would follow and I want to prevent that.



Common malte let them back on the other forums, just becouse they arn't moderate socialist but radical socialists, does not mean they should be baned, the people who should be restricted to this forum should only be cappies, lenin, SS and the other ones you restricted are our comrads, and should not be restricted

PS: could you let me in the commie club :)

[Guest]

hi, i'm felicia's friend. just saying hi, and all you communists have an interesting way of thinking :-?
well, have a happy communist day!

[Felicia]

I haven't been here long, but it isn't difficult to assume why you've been kicked out. I read a thread that you (lenin) posted in Theory (killing people). I can see you getting kicked out if there again.
oh, and I appologize for Holly (the guest above) she just wanted to write something.

[lenin]

how do you assume i was kicked out?

[I Will Deny You]

Quote: from STALINSOLDIERS on 2:58 pm on May 30, 2002
malte is worse then stalinHow many millions of people has Malte killed? How many treaties has he signed with Hitler?

[Felicia]

lenin
You said that you tried to post a forum in chit-chat and it said that you could only post here. Sorry maybe it's my mistake, no hard feelings? :(
felicia

[RGacky3]

Malte let them back on, we are all communists here, just becouse they think defferntly does not mean you need to restrict them. Oh by the way I will deny you, even though I am not a stalinist, I still think stalins treaty with hitler was a good thing, he wanted to keep out of a war, save some russian lifes. But I still think the killing of the innocent people was very wrong.

[lenin]

felicia, no i was kicked out for 'suspected racism' but was let back onto the other forums after denouncing nationalism.
what i meant was why do you think i was kicked out? because personally, i couldn't find a reason for it. but anyway, malte let me back on so i'm not going to complain.
i do agree with gacky though. SS and thine stalin are communists. TS is not a nazi, he is just a patriot who is against immigration. SS is defninatly a communist too.

[Capitalist Fighter]

RGacky3, the Nazi-Soviet non-aggression pact included more than peace between the two nations. It allowed the Soviet Union to annex half of Poland and then gave them the power to invade Finland and other defeated nations. It highlighted Stalin's imperialistic nature and evil.

[Felicia]

lenin,
ok, my bad...