war against terrorism!

[Anonymous]

Is it only my impression or america is having a big benefict with the war against terrorism? I mean i know they will control the petroil in afghanistam and the heroine that afganistam produces (80% of the heroin is produced is afghanistam) but when the warbegined bush said that the theatre of operacions would be all over the world, and he is right all he has to do is say that this or that country helped the talibans and BAM! all the resources in that country are now american resources!!! and if he blackmails countrys? like: give-me all the petroil or the next months the only thing you are going to eat is our bombs!!!and my friends believe me he will do that (this is, if he his not already doing it!) And its this sorts of lies and shits that makes-me wanna join the enemys of USA and give them HELL!!!!!

Hate & ®evolution-shakadimass

[BOZG]

AmeriKKKa watches out for AmeriKKKa's own greedy ass and only goes to war when its looking for something. That is why there was the theory that September 11th was set up by the U$A in order to give them a reason to AmeriKKKanise the world.

[PaulDavidHewson]

The usa operates in Afghanistan for 3 things at the least:
Tactical, economic and domestic reasons.


Tactical reasons: military base of operations in central Asia.

Economic reasons: Petroil, etc.

Domestic reasons: REVENGE!

[Anonymous]

Paul america cant have reveng by attacking afghanistam neither by killing osama bin laden, Bush knew about the 11 september attacks and did nothing, mayby its only two reasons no?

[Domino]

Yeah, the ***** knew about it, I also agree on the first 2 though.

"War Against Terrorism" that's so stupid, I hate they call it that. Plus, the make it sound like it's something that will benefit the entire world, when they are actually killing lots of innocent people in the way. Bastards.

[Michael De Panama]

Bush is having fun playing Napoleon right now.

[Guest]

This is Capitalist Imperial...

Yep, its true you are all, save Paul D.H., pretty much ignorant idiots who have not 1 iota of ability to abstract out what you hear from the media from reality. The USA is in afghanistan to eradicate taliban/al queda strength (an objective we've pretty much achieved) as part of a greater war on terror. This war will be fought in many ways, on many fronts, sometimes public, sometimes clandestine, afghanistan isn't even a major oil producing country, and George bush is not going to take heroin back to the US as a spoil of war. There likely was some warning of some activity made to authorities about some terrorist activity prior to september 11th, but nothing even close to specific, no one came and told the FBI that "terrorists are planning to hijack a plane and fly it into a major US commercial center and military headquarters". Our CIA, FBI, and other government agencies (and those of our allies) are always monitoring terrorist activity, and they receive tips and info every single day, if they acted on every tip they got, then they would be doing nothing but chasing mostly benign leads 24/7. C'mon, dudes, use a little critical thinking once in a while, or has your communist/socialist lifestyle taught you not to think for yourselves ? Stop blaming the US for taking just action for an attack by cowards on 3000 innocent civilians. If those terrorists were so tough they would have attacked a US military base. Oh, by the way, the vast majority of collateral damage registered in the war on terror occurs because the pussy-ass taliban and al-queda hide behind innocent afghanis (who they oppress anyway, not even letting women go to school, work, or get medical attention, people cant watch tv, listen to the radio, or even laugh in public, but that is all changing now that the USA is liberating afghanistan. The people are happy, now, digging up their TV's they had to bury 10 years ago). Jeez, sometimes I wonder how you guys come too these idiotic, simplistic, spoon-fed conclusions.

[Xvall]

That still doesn't justify killing doublt the amount of people they killed?

Hiding behind civilians?
Well, according to your president, they live in caves, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. The US isn't liberating Afghanistan, as a matter of fact, the Northern Alliance has done all the 'liberating' so far. And crime in these 'liberated' cities have skyrocketed. In fact, if you weren't so busy watching the CNN propoganda network all the damn time, you would realize that more people in afghanistan PREFER the damn taliban. (Just a reminder, I in no way support the taliban...)

Where did you get this 'vast majority' statistic. They thought the terrorists were hiding in the Red Cross Hospital? The Mosque too? Give me a break. Civilian buildings were intentionally targeted, wake up!

Oh by the way! Who the hell do you think helped fund and install those terrorist networks anyways? Ronald Raegan, used to commonly refer to Osoma bin Laden as a freedom fighter, and gave him MILLIONS of dollars to fight the 'big bad reds'!

(Edited by Drake Dracoli at 4:26 am on May 27, 2002)

[Guest]

Bullshit, drake, u know that is not true, why would we kill innocent civilians on purpose? WHY, WHY, WHY????

I understand that you don't support the taliban, but You understand of course that some can hide in caves while others hide in the city. We have to kill/capture all we can. They know we will attack, buut they still use innocent people as sheilds, so who is responsible??? They were stockpiling weapons in that hospital.

The northern alliance has been fighting the taliban for 10 years, drake, so it just so happens that when we come in they are successful, Now they get all the credit??? Come on, drake, you know the truth, get real.

I dont watch cnn, but our media is not a government owwned propoganda machine, that is what happens in communist countries, because in communism the media is state owned and does not have freedom of speech, remeber? Our medi has freedom of spech, and uses it often. If crime has skyrocketed in afghanistan, what did you call taliban control??? that was one, big, organized crime!!!

[SU37]

There are war crimes that are fucked up and they are written"American soldier all over it.An American soldier beat an Afghan cause he didn't know where Taliban forces where,afther beating him the American soldier locked him in a room and left.

(Edited by SU37 at 12:29 am on May 27, 2002)

[Anonymous]

Geting rid of talibans? America trained them america feed them america puted them in the power, and now america wants to put the north allience in the power, and they are more cruel than the taliban, shut up imperial you dont know what you are talking about!!!!

[queen of diamonds]

somehow i doubt this is part of a greater war on terror - if this war of terror is legit., then why did it take the deaths of so many US civilians to wake anyone up to it? is it just because they now see how it affects america? if it's part of a greater war on terror, why, when india tries to wage the same war, does it caution them not to proceed? surely it can't be the threat of nuclear missiles being used - they're promised to do as much themselves
what's this abt the white house knowing about 11/9?

[Anonymous]

It seems that Amerikkka do whatever the fuck they want and get what they want. The CIA trained usama bin laden for fucks sake. The wa on terror is rediculous.

[guerrillaradio]

Interesting...I think the commies and CI shouldn't take such a polarised view on this subject. There are good things to arise from 11/9, and there are bad things.

GOOD THINGS

(i) The Taliban were finally ousted from Afghanistan (which, whatever the reasons behind it, has to be a good thing).

(ii) At last the world was alerted to the horrors of religious zealotism.

BAD THINGS

(i) 3,000 people died (whatever their creed, colour or beliefs, I hate the death of civillians).

(ii) Bush now has a carte blanche to smash the whole Third World to pieces under some blanket of "fighting terrorism".

(iii) A new wave of patriotism has spread America, and political minorities are singled out for hasslement and oppression from the authorities (anyone remember antigovernment on here??)

(iv) Any possible American intervention in the Middle East (which, despite all this bullshit Jewish conspiracy diatribe I keep hearing, was an option being considered), is now unlikely cos Sharon is claiming to be fighting terror, just like Bush.

(v) Bush is now in a position to bully other countries into joining him. "If you're not with us, you're against us" means that countries wishing to remain neutral are made to look pro-terrorist.

There are more bad things...someone else list any I've forgotten...

[Anonymous]

BAD THINGS: Amirikkkas patriotism has made bush's popularity soar even though he is a terrible president and a fucking dumbass!! But the Taliban were terrible.

[Anonymous]

If you think talibans were bad wait until the north allience come to power!!! they sold their country!!! when the rusians attacked they joined them!!! and who fighted the russians? talibans!! i am not saying that the talibans are good! i am saying that the north allience are very bad maby eve worst than the taliban!!!!

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from the anarchist on 8:35 pm on May 28, 2002
when the rusians attacked they joined them!!! and who fighted the russians? talibans!!

Do you wanna give a source for that?? As far as my understanding goes, neither the Northern Alliance nor the Taliban existed around the time of the Soviet invasion.

And the Northern Alliance don't actually have that much power in Afghanistan. The Prime Minister is not part of them, and most of the government is shared between tribes. The main worry as far as Afghanistan is now concerned is feuding warlords, of which there are many.

[Anonymous]

Okay taliban didnt exist when the soviets attacked but the people that formed them fought the soviets! and north allience is going to take control of afghanistam belive me!