The rising of Nazism in europe!

[Anonymous]

nazism is growing in europe!! and malte you are german and you know it and the fault is the big companys that fire everybody! germany its being attacked by the nazis and it will be soo if we dont stop capitalism! in one thing this new nazis are right: CAPITALISM SUCKS!!!!! and they are nazis because the sistem made them nazis because capitalism gave money to then take it away, because money is more important than people, thats one of the reosens i´m an anarchist money sucks!!! and If we choose to live without it we are dead!!!!!!! Wouldnt the world be a safer and an hapier place if there were no money?? compassion instead of money, the human race above all the only concern : to preserve the human nature without destroying the world!! but no! mankind is not redy to stop this endless cycle of greed hate and violence and all because of the money, the money and the religion the two bigests plagues in the world!! :angry:

[yuriandropov]

that is true. in western europe, nazism is growing. and the western european left has only itself to blame. the people who are becoming nazi's are dissulusioned youth who would normanlly turn to marxism. but the left is concerning itself with gay rights and racial equality, not the prolaterat which it use to defend. the only other anti-capitalist movement other than marxism is nazism. and disulusioned youths are turning to nazism instead fo marxism. something must be done about this. if there ever was going to be a revolution, the young working class would be vital. but the young working class no longer sees communism as a working class movement.
what we did in russia to combat the loss of prolaterat to nazism was set up national bolshevik organisations. these organisations mix left and right politics. they are massive in russia and in area where russians have a large representation (lithuania, belarus, ukraine etc). in russia, instead of attacking communists, young 'neo-nazis' ally themselves with communists and call themselves national bolsheviks. national bolsheviks march in most communist rallies in FSU.
you must try to get the potential nazis into marxism, or if not true marxism, then at least national bolshevism. where young comrades can appreciate marx and there racist tendancies will be slowly dropped.

[Nateddi]

National bolsheviks?

Are they who have the nazi-german flag with a hammer and sickle instead of a swastica in the middle?

[yuriandropov]

that is right yes. IMO national bolsheviks are too racist. but 95% of its members are under 20. they will grow out of there racism as they get older. at least there ultimate goal is socialism, they just want to use racist methods to achieve this. though as i say, most will grow out of this and become conventional communist party members.

[Nateddi]

That is insane. Do kids actually care about their goals, or are they just trying to rebel. Racist ways to establish communism....... pfft.

[yuriandropov]

it may appear insane but you have to realise the stuation these youths are in. they are comparable to the gangs of LA or the skinheads of germany. they feel betrayed by russian 'capitalism' and multi-culteralism. they feel western culture has infiltrated places like latvia, lithuania and other soviet republics. national bolsheviks are usually out of work youths who have nothing else in life but terrorising the people they blame for there miserable lifes.
i can seriously see a future in the political movement of national bolshevism in russia. the comparisons between 21st century russia and 1920's germany are incredible. both countries in economic turmoil, both former empires who have lost there power, both defeated in major wars (if you count the cold war) and both countries were the majority of citizens are dissulusioned with the current way the country is heading.
i am not saying national bolshevism is good, i think its bad. but it is becoming increasingly popular in FSU.

[PaulDavidHewson]

you really think people are dumb do you?

A small handfull of people(who are mostly underaged and just think it's cool to be a neo-nazi) support the neo-nazi movement.

Though all signs of this movement must be countered, still there is no need for alarm.

You are underestimating the european people if you believe people are going to be pursuaded that easily.
People are more politicaly conscious than you think, do not take them for fools.

[yuriandropov]

i think if you knew the number of racist and anti-semitic beatings in the soviet bloc compared to western europe you would be alarmed.
and if you also realised that these 'neo-nazi' national bolsheviks were also an organised political movement with a very large (and growing) youth and middle aged following, not the small sects of skinheads you see in western europe, you would be alarmed.

[PaulDavidHewson]

I was jumping to conclusions, I thought we were talking about the Euro EU countries :)