DO ALL YOU CAPITALISTS AGREE WITH WHAT BUSH IS DOING

[Unknown]

Do you agree with bushs oppression of afganistans do you agree he is a terrorist,

Why (if you do) do you want demoracy in cuba its been fine for ages......

[Michael De Panama]

Well, I want democracy in Cuba. And I'm no capitalist.

[Thine Stalin]

I think fidel would stay in power whether it was democratic or not.

[Michael De Panama]

No he wouldn't. He's 75. He'll be dead any day now.

[yuriandropov]

yes but raul will take over as soon as fidel is gone.

[Capitalist Imperial]

Quote: from Unknown on 10:23 am on May 24, 2002
Do you agree with bushs oppression of afganistans do you agree he is a terrorist,



I can't believe that statement, even from a liberal!!! Oppression??? Do you know what is happenenig in Afhanistan??? We are freeing them from oppression!!!! For the first time the afghan people are allowed to laugh, Laugh!!!! They actually weren't allowed to laugh out loud in the street, or watch tv, or listen to the radio, or even fly kites, the women were not allowed schooling or medical care, the taliban would not allow them to even hold a job, but they are now dancing in the street and laughing and smiling because of the taliban's eradication, so what in the heck are you talking about, Unknown?????

(Edited by Capitalist Imperial at 11:38 pm on May 24, 2002)

[Nateddi]

Bush and Taliban were allies pre S11. He met with them in Texas do discuss an oil pipeline in the Caspian sea, and trained the militants to fight the russians in the 80's.

Yea we really care about the Afghani people, thats why we carpet bomb the land.

[Capitalist Imperial]

WE WERN'T REALLY "ALLIES" PRE 9/11, AND THE MUJAHADEEN FROM THE 80'S whoops, sorry, from the 80's wern't thee taliban (although some of them did become the taliban)

[Nateddi]

I know it was the mujahadeen, and my point was that some became the taliban.

But let me ask, if they were the Taliban, not the mujahadeen, would we not fund them?

[Anarcho]

I think the US would have funded bloodthirsty cannibals if they were going to fight the Soviets back in the 80's.

Ok, I see some semblance to the Iraqi problem here.


Folks, the Taliban were bad. Not good, bad. They were an oppressive, represive state.

Now, thanks to the US and Northern Coalition forces, things are getting better. There is a cost, yes, and it should be investigated ( I still haven't seen a good reliable source for '1000's of civilian deaths' at the hands of US troops or bombs) but in the end, what is happening will be better for Afghanistan.

Hopefully the US will butt out as soon as things stablize.

[bleed3r]

I agree with anarcho, but back to the topic at hand.. Why democracy in Cuba? First off I believe Cuba's problem lies in the trade block, not in the political system. Democracy won't improve that situation. Second, someone already mentioned this but i think it's rather ironic for a president who paid his way into power to tell cuba how important "fair elections" are.

[guerrillaradio]

Quote: from Thine Stalin on 8:20 pm on May 24, 2002
I think fidel would stay in power whether it was democratic or not.

Hmm...interesting. I already know your views on democracy, but still, if that were the case, then why isn't he holding elections??

[red senator]

Also, bush wants cuba to give more human rights, but the standard of living is much higher in cuba than in the arab states the america gets oil from.

Really, i wish i could go to cuba and see if democracy was what they really need, because i watched this thing on CNN when carter was there and it was showing all these really poor people, and a taxi driver who had to work on his car for twoo hours before it would satrt everyday, but then even CNN had to say that cuba provides excellent (and free) education and healthcare, it also mentioned how housing is subsidised.

So, i want to see if democracy is what they need or just an end to the stupid ass trade embargo.

also, if bush really wanted us-cuba relations then why would he try to undermine carter's visit by leaking that "chemical weapons" shit that turned out to be false?

[Nateddi]

Bush doesnt want democracy, he wants capitalism. Or democracy batista-style.

[STALINSOLDIERS]

que viva fidel, comi mierda micheal de panama.....death to bush fidel will live for ever but when he not there he brother raul will take over the communist of cuba wont let any yankee get to there land......oh by the way does anyone knows about noriage from panama cause his prison cell is like less then a half a mile from my house you can see it..

[bleed3r]

I agree with nate, i think it's quite obvious that he's trying to get Cuba under his thumb, NOT operating under their own free will.

What will happen to cuba when fidel dies though? Raul is getting old as well... What's to come after Raul?

[Lardlad95]

Does anyone find it Ironic that Bush wants Cuba to hold fair elections yet he himself stole the presidential election.


I have only this to say to that dumb monkey faced fuck: Bush you have earned nothing in your entire life. If you had lived in any other country in the world you would have died years ago because you have no real value to anyone. I doubt there is anything you can do that useful and you deserve the chair more than most of the people you had executed because you stole democracy from an entire nation.

[PaulDavidHewson]

in Cuba people are not allowed too(additional comments to capitalists statements) :

- sell, buy or give away their car, they get a car from the state if they are good enough citizens. (this car is usually very old)

- they are not allowed to buy, sell or give away their house.

- not allowed to travel/live to another region of cuba, unless specific addmitance is given.

- Surgeons are not allowed to leave the country unless they request a permit to leave to country(for holiday reasons or otherwise) 5 years in advance.

- Not allowed to stay in tourist hotels/beaces untill everyone can afford this "luxery".

- They list of things they can't do is too long to mention here and most of it has already been mentioned so many times in other threads.


Some of the things Bush is doing is great and some things aren't that great, but I favor what Bush is doing in Afghanistan and other countries above the things other regimes are doing any time!

I've seen pictures and movies of peoples hands being cut off in Iran for stealing.
I've seen pictures and movies of people being executed in a most horrific way for kissing their wives in public.

People in afghanistan were atually imprisoned for not having a beard, and released at the time they did grow a beard.

etc, etc, etc, etc, bla bla bla. Whatever you are going to say about capitalists and the likes you cannot deny with a sane mind that the old and current regimes in some countries are better.

[ZaPaTiStA SoCiAlIsTa]

STUPID CAPPIES. How the hell do you guys begin to say that if it wasn’t for the U$, Afghanistan would still be oppressed? You guys are silly. Why not help the day the Taliban took power??? The US knew about the oppression of the Afghani citizens, but liberating them at the time wasn’t profitable. NOW, they have an excuse to overthrow the afghan government, install a puppet Gov. and build the pipe line they have wanted all along, while hiding under the guise of "helping" the oppressed. The U$ only “helps” the oppressed when its profitable. Don’t be surprised that after having gained control over Afghanistan with their puppet governemnt, the U$ stages a coup on some middle east country to get their hands on the oil the have spilt so much blood for.