Friedrich Engels the proto-Hitler

[Solzhenitsyn]

We capitalists were wrong about the technological acheivements of communism. They did develop one that was crucial to 20th century history: Modern racial genocide. The founding fathers of the criminal enterprise known as Marxism not only spoke approvingly of it but demanded such action. Looking at the results, the ever obsequious Lenin and Stalin were nearly successful in turning Engels depraved dream of a world free of 'Slav barbarians' and other 'reactionary races' into reality:

http://www.interlog.com/~girbe/Engels.html
http://www.ohiou.edu/~Chastain/ip/nonhistp.htm

Yes, dear Moskitto, the murderous impulses of Lenin, Trotsky, Pol-Pot, Mao, Stalin et. al are the logical conclusion of the worldview envisaged by Marx and Co.
Marx and Engels voluminous writings prove my point.

I suddenly have an urge to browse through some old communist publications. There's nothing like seeing the prophets of marxism at their most vile and most truthful. I'm thinking of reprinting them in a book entitled An Introduction to Total and Absolute Evil What do you think?

[red senator]

So all you have shown here is that communists had their own containment policy?
Was he really calling for genocide? I don't think so, he was really just pissed at the counter-revolutionary status of those countries. Who wouldn't be, they just spoiled his revolution.

After sept. 11, you had all of these americans hating the entire race/ethnicity of muslims (the violence toward muslims and immagrants of middle-eastern descent) and the u.s. gov goes and destroys the entire government in Afghanistan when the majority of hijackers were from saudi arabia.

[DaNatural]

Good try friend but your links are pathetic and dont illustrate much. The reason Marx and Engels were against various groups was because they were against the revolution. Engels refers to them as barbarians because they are reactionary nations and because they support despotic regimes.. He is not insulting or attacking it's citizens but rather it's political ideology.
Here is a quote which re-emphasizes what I just said.
"Marx supported the national movement of the Poles and the Hungarians and was opposed to the national movement of the Czechs and the Jugo-Slavs. Why? Because the Czechs and the Jugo-Slavs were then "reactionary nations" in Europe, outposts of absolutism; whereas the Poles and the Hungarians were "revolutionary nations," fighting against absolutism;
They are in favour of those who want the revolution and will insult those, regardless of nationality, who are against it. Its very simple and I think anyone would agree with it.
Aside from that your calls about racism are hollow, Trotsky spoke positively about Black Nationalism. Show me, and others, some better evidence before you attempt to make a mockery of respected scholars.
The site you are quoting from, aside from the direct quotations, seems to be some sort site dedicated to hurting the revolution.
You only denegrate your status in a discourse of this nature by making such absurb comments and by using such weak sources
p.s. Lenin and Stalin's ethnic cleansing cannot be directly traced by to preachings of Marx and Engels, they took those actions upon themselves and are the ones who are solely responsible. That sites attempt to link those actions to marx and engels was pathetic and the quotations do not support such a claim.

[Fires of History]

And Martin Luther was an anti-semite, but is the basis of all amerikkkan Protestant religion. What's your point? Your links are...lacking too.

Oh, that's right, Communism = Stalinism, ah, I forgot. Good point ol' chap.

[peaccenicked]

This is an interesting article
http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/revhi...2/Rosdolsk.html (http://www.marxists.org/history/etol/revhist/backiss/Vol3/No2/Rosdolsk.html)

[ArgueEverything]

Quote: from Fires of History on 10:24 am on May 11, 2002
And Martin Luther was an anti-semite, but is the basis of all amerikkkan Protestant religion. What's your point? Your links are...lacking too.


good point.

and not only luther, but jefferson, lincoln etc etc

[Moskitto]

Did Marx and Engles invent communism?

No the Idea of communism has existed since ancient Greece and has been held by many movements such as the 13th Century Peasants Rebellion, The Levelers and the Diggers.

Did Marx and Engles invent Genocide?

No, Genocide has existed for as long as communication. The largest genocide happened in the 12th century where 35 million Chinese peasants were murdered by Monogl invaders.

[Mac OS Revolutionary]

A sort communism had been in practice by many small South American tribes. These were probably the best examples of communism.