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chimx
15th March 2008, 19:50
I was hoping to talk stocks with some OIers in here. Despite the current recession I am debt free and have been saving up thousands of dollars. In the past I have mainly invested my money in money markets, mutual funds, etc., but I was thinking about getting into the buying and selling of high risk individual stocks. Anybody have any tips?

Right now I am thinking about three people in particular. Friday Bear Stearns Companies took a huge hit and almost went out of business. Their shares dropped by 50% and are sitting at about $30 a share. The federal gov't has helped 'em with their loans, and there is a lot of talk of JP Morgan coming in and buying them out soon. Is now a good time to buy into BSC? It's certainly a gamble, but is a good gamble?

Google is being hit significantly hard by the current recession because there revenue is primary from advertising. However, they are in talks with buying up the UHF band when TVs go digital, which will revolutionize wireless networking and will also be a significant source of revenue for them. They are talking about renting bands out to smaller companies and create a wireless network with a market similar to the dialup market in the 1990s. On top of this, they are hoping to launch their first gPhone by the end of this year. Good idea? Bad idea? At 430 a share, they are pricey, but if this UHF stuff goes through its guaranteed to make some money, right?

Lastly, AMD. They've been hit pretty hard by Intell, but they recently purchased a lot of factories in Texas for future production. I haven't heard as much on AMD unfortunately.

Anyone else have some tips? Capitalist Lawyer? hmm?

Bud Struggle
15th March 2008, 20:05
Stocks are the same as gambling. Nothing with wrong with taking a wager new and again--but, you never know. Most Mutual Funds with a good history do OK, and for a safe bet, I would maybe try one of these. For my money--and that's where I invest, the best place to have a secure ROI is COMMERCIAL real estate.

Not the housing market--people's decisions are too shakey, but strip malls will always be with us, so will industrial parks. If you can get into some sort of consortium that invests in these things you have serious long term mailbox money coming every month. I've been investing in them for years and it's just checks and checks of free money. Really and truly investment in strip malls and industrial parks are an investment in small and medium sized business--and you can't go wrong there. People will always be starting businesses. It's just a natural human drive.

(FYI: None of this is investment banking. :rolleyes:)

Die Neue Zeit
15th March 2008, 21:44
Try Treasury Inflation-Protected Securities. You'll have to watch out for "real yields," however (the best time to buy these is when they're first issued).

[Congrats on not falling into the consumerist trap of going into debt.]

chimx
16th March 2008, 02:10
FYI: None of this is investment banking.

Bear Stearns and JP Morgan isn't investment banking? :rolleyes: Granted, I added google and AMD as an after thought.

I would like to invest in property, but I don't have THAT much capital. I only have probably about $7000 of un-invested money (and about $9000 of invested money). I was just wondering what people's takes were on the BSC crash and if it would be wise to buy in now while its low or not.

Joby
16th March 2008, 04:10
It depends. If you're going high-risk, there's no real guarantee (of course) on anything. A good time might be right before quarterly profits are announced, if you expect a suprise, or getting a friend in the FDA :rolleyes:

Anyway, though, at the same time, if you invest in mutual funds that have a good track record over your career, you'll be in great shape when you retire. High-volume infrastructure is also a good bet, and I'm in the process of researching alternative-energy companies...I gotta feeling it'll be the next "plastics"

Unicorn
17th March 2008, 19:59
Right now I am thinking about three people in particular. Friday Bear Stearns Companies took a huge hit and almost went out of business. Their shares dropped by 50% and are sitting at about $30 a share. The federal gov't has helped 'em with their loans, and there is a lot of talk of JP Morgan coming in and buying them out soon. Is now a good time to buy into BSC? It's certainly a gamble, but is a good gamble?
Lol, the BS stock is worth 2 $ a share now. :rolleyes:

You should invest in some worker cooperative.

last_angry_man
17th March 2008, 21:49
the BS stock is worth 2 $ a share now

This should be a lesson to anyone who works for a company that offers company stock as one of their 401k options. You do not want your career and your investments all tied up to a single company. Many B-S employees who thought they had good careers and large retirement accounts now have NEITHER. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket, comrades.