Political Compass

[Hayduke]

Cheers Comrades,

I was thinking it would be alot of fun to see the political compass
from you all, as well as the commies as the cappies.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalc...pass/index.html (http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/index.html)

Lets all make the test and post our results here.

Have fun,

Cheers

D-Day

Edit: I put the explaining of the compass below.

About The Political Compass
In the introduction, we explained the inadequacies of the traditional left-right line.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/leftright.gif

If we recognise that this is essentially an economic line it's fine, as far as it goes. We can show, for example, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot, with their commitment to a totally controlled economy, on the hard left. Socialists like Mahatma Gandhi and Robert Mugabe would occupy a less extreme leftist position. Margaret Thatcher would be well over to the right, but further right still would be someone like that ultimate free marketeer, General Pinochet.
That deals with economics, but the social dimension is also important in politics. That's the one that the mere left-right scale doesn't adequately address. So we've added one, ranging in positions from extreme authoritarian to extreme libertarian.

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/bothaxes.gif

Both an economic dimension and a social dimension are important factors for a proper poltical analysis. By adding the social dimension you can show that Stalin was an authoritarian leftiist (ie the state is more important than the individual) and that Gandhi, believing in the supreme value of each individual, is a liberal leftist. You can also put Pinochet, who was prepared to sanction mass killing for the sake of the free market, on the far right as well as in a hardcore authoritarian position. On the non-socialist side you can distinguish someone like Milton Friedman, who is anti-state for fiscal rather than social reasons, from Hitler, who wanted to make the state stronger, even if he wiped out half of humanity in the process.
The chart also makes clear that, despite popular perceptions, the opposite of fascism is not communism but anarchism (ie liberal socialism), and that the opposite of communism ( i.e. an entirely state-planned economy) is neo-liberalism (i.e. extreme deregulated economy)

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/axeswithnames.gif

The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples law of the jungle right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing. On the other hand, the classical libertarian collectivism of anarcho-syndicalism ( libertarian socialism) belongs in the bottom left hand corner.
In our home page we demolished the myth that authoritarism is necessarily "right wing", with the examples of Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot and Stalin. Similarly Hitler, on an economic scale, was not an extreme right-winger. His economic policies were broadly Keynesian, and to the left of some of today's Labour parties. If you could get Hitler and Stalin to sit down together and avoid economics, the two diehard authoritarians would find plenty of common ground.

[Hayduke]

Here are mine:

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.08

Puts me in the ilbertarian/left secion.
A bit more communist left then a anarchist.

Cheers

D-Day

[oconner]

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.41
quite proud of that hehehe

[Nateddi]

-8.82 left

-0.34 down


(Edited by Nateddi at 10:13 pm on Aug. 16, 2002)

[vox]

I've taken this test quite a few times. Here's what I got this time around:

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.31

vox

[Hayduke]

Any cappies that dare to take the test ?

[Nateddi]

Quote: from vox on 4:44 pm on April 27, 2002
I've taken this test quite a few times. Here's what I got this time around:

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.31

vox


Good lord :shocked:! and I thought my score was too radical

[Hayduke]

Quote: from vox on 9:44 pm on April 27, 2002
I've taken this test quite a few times. Here's what I got this time around:

Economic Left/Right: -9.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.31

vox


Talk bout extreme......

[vox]

"Good lord! and I thought my score was too radical"

Hee! Yeah, I know. Every time I take it I seem to move a little further to that lower left corner.

vox

[libereco]

this time i got
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -9.79

but everytime i take this test i hover back and forth depending on my mood....I've always been more libertarian than 9 though and I'm pretty sure this is my lowest score on left wing...it really depends on my mood that day.

anyway, keep in mind that this test is kind of biased...people tend to end up libertarian left. I know right wingers who ended up there....it has to do with the wording of some questions.

anyway, i have also seen people end up on the right, but those were just crazy.

[Hayduke]

Yeh I already thought it was bout mood.

But Im really wondering what the cappies will make of it.

Cheers

D-Day

[red senator]

I am at:
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.36

I could have gone either way on some of the quetions if there had been more to the question (like an example "... if this happened or that happened")

I couln't really answer the one about 'this country has good qualities" since I didnt know what country it was.
Also, I would like to see what George w bush would score on this, i bet it would be more right/authoritarian than Ian Duncan Smith.

(Edited by red senator at 5:27 pm on April 27, 2002)


(Edited by red senator at 5:45 pm on April 27, 2002)

[Nateddi]

I just re-took the test. I am a bit less down, and a bit more left

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.26

(Edited by Nateddi at 5:40 pm on April 27, 2002)


(Edited by Nateddi at 10:31 pm on May 18, 2002)

[RedRevolutionary87]

Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.21
not bad, i think this is quite acurate

[Imperial Power]

I'm pretty moderate on this survey.

Economic left/right: .25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 1.87

The survey asks some slanted questions that are designed to make you more socialist then you really are. For instance, "Do you believe woman should be homemakers?" I doubt you'll find many that will say yes, and if you say no, it takes that as a leftist response. The anti-semite questions are another example.

[James]

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.87

[PunkRawker677]

some comments:
"Abstract art, because it doesn't represent anything, shouldn't be considered art at all."
that doesnt make sense.. Abstract art can be represenational.. such as Van Gogh, or Gogan.. they are talking about non-representational art such as Pollack, whihc is NOT abstract..

"One day, science may be able to cure homosexuality."
if you agree, you are saying it is like a disease. if you disagree, than you are saying "science cannot cure homosexuality" while still acknowleding it as a 'disease'.

my results:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.69

(lower left)

[RedCeltic]

Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.79

[Fabi]

Economic Left/Right: -4.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.54


hmmm.. maybe accurate....

[James]

I, for the first time EVER!!! agree a little with imperial power. The questions are slanted...i don't think its asking from a liberal view point.

[guerrillaradio]

IP - I agree too, the questions are a little slanted, such as "all theatres and museums that can't survive on a commercial basis deserve to perish"...erm, yeah...

I've taken this several times before, but hey. I always end up leftist libertarian, not as much as Vox or Libererco though:

Economic Left/Right: -5.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.77

[Blackberry]

http://anime.s31net.com/boardmembers/politicalcompass.gif
Here is mine. Please ignore the spelling mistake!

[rebel with a cause]

Economic Left/Right: -8.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -9.08

[Sasafrás]

Economic Left/Right: -6.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.90

I always get the sam basic thing each time..

[Hayduke]

We have no authorian left winged person here do we ?

[BOZG]

Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.74

[Jurhael]

HEheeheheh...today I got:

Economic Left/Right: -5.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.38

[Anne]

Economic Left/Right: -6.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.23

heh, that was fun:)

[sabre]

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.49

bottom left corner - is that good or bad?
hehe

[RedCeltic]

Quote: from sabre on 6:22 pm on April 28, 2002
Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.49

bottom left corner - is that good or bad?
hehe

Bad if your looking for a job on wall street ;)

[Fires of History]

When I took it, it sizzled and started to fragment, then the program degraded, fizzled, sizzled, then finally came back up with:

Economic Left/Right: -9,983,461,524,305,938,365,140
Authoritarian/Libertarian:-9,895,274,319,753,213,578,900

Then the program immediately tried to place an embargo on me.

[RedCeltic]

Watch out FOH... the feds are on their way to pick you up. ;)

[Fires of History]

No worries, Feds are bribed very easily. Although I am not a trans-national conglomerate, so maybe they won't accept my money. If anything strange goes down, the snipers around my compound are standing by.

Then again, there's always the 'Donut Trick'...

[elizquierdista]

I only got:
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.26

Maybe it's cause I'm too peaceful and giving. Any suggestions on how to "better" the "score".

[MJM]

http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/politicalcompass/images/cross.gif


Economic Left/Right: -7.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.92

[Hayduke]

Quote: from elizquierdista on 8:48 am on April 29, 2002
I only got:
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.26

Maybe it's cause I'm too peaceful and giving. Any suggestions on how to "better" the "score".


Whybetter the score ? To look like a real communist or something ?

[elizquierdista]

D Day, as I've said before, I'm not a communist, I'm a socialist. And as you know there are differences amongst the 2. Could that be a reason for the gap between what I got and what you've (plural) gotten.

[vox]

elizquierdista,

I wouldn't worry about it. As tests go, this is one of the better ones, but it's still just one test. Some people here seem to think, because of my score, that I'm too extreme. So be it. The fact is, the score doesn't mean too much. What we do in the world is all that really counts.

I'm sure that some people here will accept the results of this test unquestioningly. They will look at the quantified results and say, "Ah, vox is more radical than (insert someone else here)." Which is, of course, nonsense. Not too long ago I was accused of being bourgeois on this board because I reject Leninism. So which is it?

Comparing my score to yours, I'd say that I'm a little more wary of authority and tend to question it a bit more than you and that, on some economic issues, probably land reform, I'm further to the Left. Are these huge differences? Nope. Is there plenty of common ground? Yep.

vox

[elizquierdista]

vox, thanks for the words of wisdom. Indeed you're correct.

[IzmSchism]

Economic Left/Right: -6.52
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.92

kewl test

[yuriandropov]

i just saw this thread on the website section but i can only post here so i'll put my results here:

economic left/right -8.65
authoratarian.libertarian 3.29

[Vladimir]

Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.03
Authoritarian
Left





















Right
Libertarian

[j]

One person, one person only is not a libertarian leftist?
Come on!!!!

BTW, I'm a Libertarian Leftist
Econ L/R: -7.5
Author/Lib: -6.46

j

[yuriandropov]

how can you people be getting such high libertarian scores? help me out thine stalin!

[PaulDavidHewson]

I took this test only one time, I will try it again tommorow:

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.26

[PaulDavidHewson]

ah my new score for today, a little too left in my opinion, but it probably has something to do with the mood i'm in going to that ant-facisist demonstration and all:

Economic Left/Right: -3.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.67

[Guest1]

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -9.88

holy shit...

[Nateddi]

I just took mine again.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.93

[Nateddi]

Quote: from D DAY on 7:07 am on April 28, 2002
We have no authorian left winged person here do we ?


Well, there is Yuri who is officially an authoritarian.

Than there is myself and elizquierdista, and IrishGuerrilla who are more moderate. I am getting scared, I am the only extreme leftist (not counting stalinists) with a higher than -3 on my libertarian rating.

[Capitalist Imperial]

OK, here I am


Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 1.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian:-0.67

Authoritarian Left






















Right
Libertarian

[Capitalist Imperial]

I think this test rated me pretty moderate, and I think some of these questions were a little over simplified and lent themselves to someone having answering more to the left than they really want to... just my opinion.

[Fabi]

OLD score: -4.62
-7.54

NEW score:
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.69

and i have to agree... the test isnt totally fair.... but that's been mentioned before.....

[Moskitto]

hwy i'm getting more Left and Libertarian. Now i'm

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.97

[Moskitto]

In awnser to concerns that some of the questions are slanted towards a left wing response, the example cited being the question on women having careers.

I think that people are confusing economically left wing ideas with socially libertarian policies which have been associated with the left wing politics.

I redid the test and changed only 1 of my awnsers (the question on women having careers) and got these results.

Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.51

So the question on women in the home is not slanted towards a left wing result.

If you're a total nerd you can test every question this way

[Fabi]

yeah, i thought about doing that.... or at leas that it was possible... but then, i am only a nerd, not a total nerd.... so i wont.. ;)

[Moskitto]

I think i'll test it all when I finish my exams.

[Felicia]

I know it's late but.....

economic left/right= -4.50
authoritarian/libertarian= -5.64

[Guest]

Economic Left/Right: 1.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -0.62

[Guest]

CI,

Once again I find myself agreeing with you. Only this time it is about how weighted the questions were. Honestly, there were many questions that I did not want to answer, because they did not have the right one available for me to choose.

[Goldfinger]

e/r:-3.50
a/l:-4.21
just like Ghandi:-)

[Rob]

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.46

[Fabi]

just felt like mentioning this:

if you DO NOT wish to agree or disagree or are 'in the middle' then DO NOT check that question...

i.e. if you dont check any of the questions it will tell you you are exactly in the middle...

[jimr]

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.36

[Power1]

Economic Left/Right: -0.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 2.67

[Apache]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: 0.62
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 0.15

OMG! I'm going to lose my job!
Must never tell!