Lady Sovereign-thoughts?

[Prairie Fire]

Okay,this is for my British Comrades (as well as Ireland, and Australia possibly). I don't know what you think, but what is your take on British rapper Lady sovereign?

I'm not saying her music is political, just want your 2 cents please.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Lady Sovereign....erm...Love me or Hate me?
and i know she sang 9 to 5 with the Ordinary Boys, that's all
nothing else:cool:

[Sankofa]

horrible

Not only that, but at times I find the British accent just awful and other times hilarious. It's a slight toss up.

[Gitfiddle Jim]

Absolutely appalling. Chav rubbish.

[The Idler]

The name is half-aristocratic "Lady" half-celebrating wealth "Sovereign". Though some of the lyrics seem more progressive.

[ls]

Absolutely appalling. Chav rubbish.

Those damn gold chain wearing working-class bastards, they are a disgrace to the human race, anti-worker chauvinism ftw.

Anyways, I think her music sucks, maybe she's a nice person but her music definitely sucks.

[brigadista]

prefer shystie and loiness

[*Red*Alert]

Her music generally appeals to the Chav scene, a subculture synonomous with what Marx would have counted the lumpen proletariat, as the majority of those who subscribe to this subculture are counter-revolutionary in my experience, engaging in anti-social behaviour (vandalism, petty crime) and having a high risk of involvement with drugs. Often found in packs or mobs of young adults.

Her music is pretty crap as well, somewhat progressive I suppose.

[Pogue]

Actually its not that likely to find 'chavs' listening to this artist.

[An archist]

No idea about her politics or anything, but her music is kinda weird and pretty damn cool.

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

Her music generally appeals to the Chav scene, a subculture synonomous with what Marx would have counted the lumpen proletariat, as the majority of those who subscribe to this subculture are counter-revolutionary in my experience, engaging in anti-social behaviour (vandalism, petty crime) and having a high risk of involvement with drugs. Often found in packs or mobs of young adults.

Her music is pretty crap as well, somewhat progressive I suppose.

:laugh:

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

She is okish not great in terms of grime Devlin is far greater.

[*Red*Alert]

Actually its not that likely to find 'chavs' listening to this artist.
No, but I've known a few who listen to her music, so I assumed it is probably even more prevalent among British chavs.

[political_animal]

Now aren't we all on our high horse about the bloody proles. Fucking chavs and their shitty music getting in the way of class consciousness and the revolution.

Come off it people, she isn't the saviour of music, or a serious grime MC, but at the same time, what she does, she does well. It is pop-rap but she has always taken in other elements, I mean, on her latest album, she samples The Cure - hardly a respected act in the world of hip hop, or a serious source for crate digging for beats.

And why do artists always have to have 'politics' on their albums? I posted an article yesterday about a very political band called Easterhouse (which, I presume 99% of people on here have never heard of, or have any inclination to discover) but Lady Sov is all about, well Lady Sov and she does rhymes about her, her stuff and her life and, well, that's about it. But honestly, I love the first album. It's playful, funny, good musically and has variation. It isn't serious and hardcore and shouldn't be considered as such, or compared with acts that are.

Most people - if they know a Sov track - would probably mention 9 to 5, or Love Me Or Hate Me (which, if you watch the video, you can see she is just having a laugh) but she has other good stuff.

A lot of times, she has a few catch phrases that will either have you repeating them at random moments, or get you incredibly annoyed - much like a latter-day, small-white-female version of Professor X saying "this is protected by the red, the black and the green...at the crossroad...with a key...SISSY!" except Sov says things like "officially the biggest midget in the game" and "ch, ching!".

The nearest she gets to 'political' is on 'This Is England' where she name checks the Queen and Tony Blair, or on a nice bit of social commentary on 'Hoodie' (incidentally, the video makes the point very forcefully indeed).

'Those Were The Days' is another of those 'back in the day' tracks, which is as common on a hip-hop album as a multitude of 'skits' that aren't funny but is a nice little reminisce about 'naf naf jackets and spliffy jeans'.

But the best choon on the album has to be 'Tango' a diss at the truly awful Jentina (before listening to the song on Youtube, first check out Jentina's 'Bad Ass Strippa'). It's humorous and has a number of great lines that can be used on any of your mates that spend too much time on sunbeds, or slap on too much fake tan.

On the second album, she has gone a bit more diverse and definitely tried to focus more on crossover appeal but what can I say, I really enjoy the first album when I'm in the mood for a bit of fun and a laugh.

Give it a chance if you don't mind getting out of the safe confines of 'serious' or 'political' music. She ain't Chuck D (or even Monie Love!) but it's a decent pop album.

[bawbag]

heard Love Me or Hate Me and wanted to shoot her ever since, disgusting, revolting chav skank, wish for her to be destroyed, another pointless self obsessed whore trying to make money, and succeeding, from makin absolute bollocks and god awful music about stuff that doesnt even matter, no one cares, absolute twat, should be wiped from this earth along with the rest of them,

and thats putting it nicely

[political_animal]

heard Love Me or Hate Me and wanted to shoot her ever since, disgusting, revolting chav skank, wish for her to be destroyed, another pointless self obsessed whore trying to make money, and succeeding, from makin absolute bollocks and god awful music about stuff that doesnt even matter, no one cares, absolute twat, should be wiped from this earth along with the rest of them,

and thats putting it nicely

:lol: not a fan then!

[Pirate turtle the 11th]

heard Love Me or Hate Me and wanted to shoot her ever since, disgusting, revolting chav skank,

I dont think this kind of shit is acceptable on revleft.

[bricolage]

She is okish not great in terms of grime Devlin is far greater.

"They treat illegal immigrants far more important than me or you."
-- Devlin

But actually I don't really like judging artists too much on their politics but as an mc Devlin fell off time ago, he was good until he started trying to copy Ghetts' skippy flow and now he struggles to breathe trying to ram 500 words into every line. Was listening back to Fuck Radio 5 the other day and it's a shame because it's only him and Lightning that are shit on it and when you are grouped with Lightning you know times are bad.

[cleef]

She is okish not great in terms of grime Devlin is far greater.

Hell yeh this guy knows!!!

As for Lady Soverign yeh shes shit!

[cleef]

"They treat illegal immigrants far more important than me or you."
-- Devlin

If you've taken this quote from 'As time goes by' then thats not Devlin its smasher that spits those lyrics

I agree some of his lyrics can be reactionary but alot of his stuff makes you question the world and is better than most of the shit peddled out by the likes of Wiley n Tinchy

[bricolage]

If you've taken this quote from 'As time goes by' then thats not Devlin its smasher that spits those lyrics

No, it's definitely Devlin. Smasher spits til 1.20 and the rest is Devlin.


I agree some of his lyrics can be reactionary but alot of his stuff makes you question the world and is better than most of the shit peddled out by the likes of Wiley n TinchyPerhaps but I've never bought into the whole grime is about content thing. Grime is about hype flows and reloads, pirate radio and clashes. The whole move to mixtapes and intricate songs has nearly brought the scene to its knees.

THIS is grime; 2cxJUB1fJiU

Not this; jmwAZJRGK0s

[cleef]

No, it's definitely Devlin. Smasher spits til 1.20 and the rest is Devlin.

Perhaps but I've never bought into the whole grime is about content thing. Grime is about hype flows and reloads, pirate radio and clashes. The whole move to mixtapes and intricate songs has nearly brought the scene to its knees.



My bad...just checked it n your right...

yeh i agree with that London City is shit not exactly sure what happened to Devlin

the scene is pretty dead already imo, i dont know anyone who listens to grime still apart from the oldskoll stuff like Risky Roads n sidewinder...

[bricolage]

the scene is pretty dead already imo, i dont know anyone who listens to grime still apart from the oldskoll stuff like Risky Roads n sidewinder...

Yeah it's in a bad state and everyone seems to be drifting over to either funky or dubstep. There still are some good bits though, Dot Rotten, Trim, P Money tend to be producing decent releases, Newham Gens still go radio a lot, when Goodz appears he is normally on form, same with Griminal, and if IceKid actually did some work once in a while it would be fire. Other than that it's not great and you are right that noone seems to care anymore. I got excited when Roachee got out, thought that might bring some life back into the scene but sadly not.

[cleef]

Yeah it's in a bad state and everyone seems to be drifting over to either funky or dubstep. There still are some good bits though, Dot Rotten, Trim, P Money tend to be producing decent releases, Newham Gens still go radio a lot, when Goodz appears he is normally on form, same with Griminal, and if IceKid actually did some work once in a while it would be fire. Other than that it's not great and you are right that noone seems to care anymore. I got excited when Roachee got out, thought that might bring some life back into the scene but sadly not.

True say good to see Roachee got out, only tune iv ever heard from that guy though is all day long, since then i havent heard anything that causes as much of a hype
Mercstons out now as well i think but he seems to be going down the same path and is currently working on his debut album...

i get what you mean with the funky house type shit since wearing my rolex every artist has tried milkin the crossover genre...can tell theres been a change from the love of the music to the love of the money

[bricolage]

True say good to see Roachee got out, only tune iv ever heard from that guy though is all day long, since then i havent heard anything that causes as much of a hype

He did a top 3 selected that was on the last Soulfood... here it is;

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Bars about prison are very deep.

"They should have kept my caged away from the public, jail didn't rehabilitate me, stick me in a room full of thugs and think that'll change something. Hey government open your eyes and open them wide, as soon as man come out they're on the next bus(?) to go back inside"


i get what you mean with the funky house type shit since wearing my rolex every artist has tried milkin the crossover genre...can tell theres been a change from the love of the music to the love of the moneyI don't crossover is always a bad thing in itself, like dubstep/grime collaborations can be very good (Kode9 & Wiley/Tubby & Newham Gens/Dusk & Blackdown & Trim) but you are right that funky house is just shit. And as for the crossover to 'mainstream' it's just been a disaster but with Tinchy doing well it sadly looks like it's going to continue.

Agree about love of the money though, you can tell with all the swagger and money talk, Double S and Skepta seem to be the worst at this these days.

[Sarah Palin]

She's no good. Some songs may have an alright beat, but then she comes in with her repulsive flow.

[Revy]

She only had one hit over here, Love me or hate me. She just seemed like an eccentric rapper. that's all.

[cleef]

He did a top 3 selected that was on the last Soulfood... here it is;

Bars about prison are very deep.

"They should have kept my caged away from the public, jail didn't rehabilitate me, stick me in a room full of thugs and think that'll change something. Hey government open your eyes and open them wide, as soon as man come out they're on the next bus(?) to go back inside"

I don't crossover is always a bad thing in itself, like dubstep/grime collaborations can be very good (Kode9 & Wiley/Tubby & Newham Gens/Dusk & Blackdown & Trim) but you are right that funky house is just shit. And as for the crossover to 'mainstream' it's just been a disaster but with Tinchy doing well it sadly looks like it's going to continue.

Agree about love of the money though, you can tell with all the swagger and money talk, Double S and Skepta seem to be the worst at this these days.

Sick bars! Safe for that one yeh...

Yeh i can appreciate the dubstep crossover as it seems to have been a major influence on the scene anyway (midnight request line comes to mind for some reason)

Yeah skepta's been on a hype since he sent for Jay-Z and got a reply...duno why he even bothered guy makes me laugh

[Trystan]

I think she's alright, and obviously quite talented. Not really my kind of music, but it's better than most of the standard crap you get from the hundreds of indie clones these days.

[Hoggy_RS]

Shes shite. I was actually unaware she was still making music, I just remember her having 2 songs a few years back.