net nanny declares "Rev Left" to be "hate speech"

[last_angry_man]

Tried to access RevLeft this morning and the damn corporate "new nanny" blocked access declaring RevLeft to be "hate speech"

I've managed to sneak in via my browser's "History" links, but only to the "General" section forums. This post really belongs elsehwere, like "Chit Chat, but I can't get there.

has anyone found a way around your company's net nanny for site's like RevLeft?

Something tells me that the whole site will be blocked for me within a day or two, the software is probably 'spidering' its way through the forum's links, shutting me off from everything as it goes...

God damn it! any help available?

[Zurdito]

jesus how dystopian. :(

[Dejavu]

Tried to access RevLeft this morning and the damn corporate "new nanny" blocked access declaring RevLeft to be "hate speech"

I've managed to sneak in via my browser's "History" links, but only to the "General" section forums. This post really belongs elsehwere, like "Chit Chat, but I can't get there.

has anyone found a way around your company's net nanny for site's like RevLeft?

Something tells me that the whole site will be blocked for me within a day or two, the software is probably 'spidering' its way through the forum's links, shutting me off from everything as it goes...

God damn it! any help available?


Thats BS man. My company allows basically all sites :D
RevLeft IS NOT hate speech. I think its a great exercise of freedom of speech. I disagree with most of the people here on core issues but at least we can debate our opinions on this forum.
Net nanny sucks.

[thejambo1]

your'e lucky you can access the net at work, i get a shitty watered down company version at my place of drudgery!! but to call revleft hate speech is way out of order.

[Bud Struggle]

I agree it's pretty stupid. I think to a lot of minds though RevLeft is to the left what Stormfront is to the right. They couldn't be more wrong.

[ÑóẊîöʼn]

Websense *vomit* also classify Revleft under "Racism & Hate" meaning that I can't access it at the library.

Fucking stupid.

[F9]

they will find all kind of fake reasons so we cant access left forums!fascism is longing its hand and on the net with the help from fuc*ing goverments!

Fuserg9:star:

[Dejavu]

I agree it's pretty stupid. I think to a lot of minds though RevLeft is to the left what Stormfront is to the right. They couldn't be more wrong.

I wouldn't even deprive the stormfront idiots their spot on the net.

[Bud Struggle]

I wouldn't even deprive the stormfront idiots their spot on the net.

Neither would I. The more sunlight is placed on those nutcases the more people would see how idiotic they are. On the other hand Stormfront is blocked on AOL.

[Dejavu]

Neither would I. The more sunlight is placed on those nutcases the more people would see how idiotic they are. On the other hand Stormfront is blocked on AOL.

But the people who restrict them , in all their 'infinite wisdom' really just do them a favor when they target their site for regulation. It presents the illusion to the sheep there that they are right in all their convictions and they are actively fighting The Man's evil establishment.

Like most regulation , it often has unintended consequences.

[Dejavu]

Oh and btw, I wouldn't consider them all nut cases. Many of them there , like people here on RevLeft, are not nut cases but rather very intelligent people who present their opinions well.

I don't mean to quote Reagan since I didn't really like the guy but he said something that applies here : " Its not that our stormfront and revleft friends are ignorant, they just know so much that isn't so."

I think that about sums it up.

[apathy maybe]

Two things. The first is check out Peacefire http://www.peacefire.org/ (may be a problem, it may be blocked as a method of circumnavigating censorship). If you can't do that, also try https://www.stupidcensorship.com/

Second (and do this anyway) is to try https://www.revleft.com https://www.revleft.com

Oh, and have fun.

[Faux Real]

Tried to access RevLeft this morning and the damn corporate "new nanny" blocked access declaring RevLeft to be "hate speech"

I've managed to sneak in via my browser's "History" links, but only to the "General" section forums. This post really belongs elsehwere, like "Chit Chat, but I can't get there.

has anyone found a way around your company's net nanny for site's like RevLeft?

Something tells me that the whole site will be blocked for me within a day or two, the software is probably 'spidering' its way through the forum's links, shutting me off from everything as it goes...

God damn it! any help available?
What is your job? Is the owner a real anti-union nutjob?

[Sankofa]

Strange....I have no problems accessing Revleft from my work and they have the usuals blocked, i.e. Myspace, Facebook, etc.

Revleft is considered a hate site now? :ohmy: Geez, that's interesting. Who exactly are we accused of being racist/hateful towards?

[Bud Struggle]

Oh and btw, I wouldn't consider them all nut cases. Many of them there , like people here on RevLeft, are not nut cases but rather very intelligent people who present their opinions well.


Well, I agree that the Stormfronts can be intellingent. The problem is hate. While our friends on RevLeft are wrong in their politics and economics from A to Z they are generally decent people. They want a better world for EVERYONE. Who could disagree with that?

Now, I don't agree with their means and tactics, but their Kumbaya is a great song. On the other hand Stormfront is about us guys aganst them guys. Fascism as a political and economic philosophy seems to not be able to exist without somebody to HATE. I don't think there's any way around that problem. Communism, on the other hand, is just utopian dreaming that at times mixes with realpolitiks with disasterous results.

BTW did Reagan actually mention RevLeft and Stormfront?

[Phalanx]

I think he was just referring to fascists and leftists in general. Both sites weren't even around when Reagan was still walking.

[pusher robot]

Revleft is considered a hate site now? http://www.revleft.com/vb/net-nanny-declares-t73131/revleft/smilies2/ohmy.gif Geez, that's interesting. Who exactly are we accused of being racist/hateful towards?

Uh...going out on a limb, here, but maybe the business-owners who instituted the blocking policy? You can only call for certain peoples' deaths so many times before they get the "crazy" notion that you might, just possibly, hate them.

While I absolutely hate such censorship, I do think it is darkly amusing. Many revlefters themselves have disclaimed the primacy of free speech, and defended censorship and propaganda.

[careyprice31]

I agree it's pretty stupid. I think to a lot of minds though RevLeft is to the left what Stormfront is to the right. They couldn't be more wrong.

Thats mean, classifying rl as a hate site. rl is actually against hatred in all its forms.

I feel so comfortable and accepted on here.

It certainly is no hate site.

[RHIZOMES]

Revleft is considered a hate site now? :ohmy: Geez, that's interesting. Who exactly are we accused of being racist/hateful towards?

The bourgeoisie. :D

[Dean]

Tried to access RevLeft this morning and the damn corporate "new nanny" blocked access declaring RevLeft to be "hate speech"

I've managed to sneak in via my browser's "History" links, but only to the "General" section forums. This post really belongs elsehwere, like "Chit Chat, but I can't get there.

has anyone found a way around your company's net nanny for site's like RevLeft?

Something tells me that the whole site will be blocked for me within a day or two, the software is probably 'spidering' its way through the forum's links, shutting me off from everything as it goes...

God damn it! any help available?
http://www.stupidcensorship.com/cgi-bin/nph-surf.cgi

*http://www.peacefire.org/bypass/net-nanny.shtml

*http://cexx.org/censware.htm

http://www.shub-internet.org/cp4/cp4break.html

**http://realprogrammers.com/hack/SSH/tunneling.html

**http://sourceforge.net/projects/peekabooty

*Appears promising
**Involves setting up a proxy

Some of these involve setting up what is virtually a proxy server (a computer relays information from another site to your computer) on a home PC (or any connected to the net, but I would strongly advise against this unless your library offers anonymity during computer usage). Among these, peek-a-booty (which is used to circumnavigate China's firewall) is probably one of the best, as well as the SSH method.

I haven't had to play with proxies much since high school, and I haven't fucked with firewalls specifically since that period, so my knowledge in this categoryy is limited. But that was the best I could dig up in ~5 minutes. Enjoy!

[careyprice31]

The bourgeoisie. :D

I think even a bourgeoisie would have to agree that leftists have a point when they say the workers arent free, the workers can go on strike and such for better stuff, but if the boss says no, its no.

Even a capitalist would have to agree with that.

My mother's a proletariat (elementary school teacher) is a reformist (not revolutionary) and even she agrees with that.

Its like the massive strike of public workers we had here in Newfoundland in 2004, workers struck for higher wages and Danny Williams, our premier, legislated them back to work and forced them to quit the striking.

Some of them workers are still bitter about that today, Danny recently was caught talking on his cell phone while driving (which is illegal here) and the guy who reported him, turned out to be one of the striking 2004 workers. He said he did it because he wanted to get revenge on the premier.

My point is that they cannot accuse us of spreading hate against the bourgeoisie, when a bourgeoisie even would have to admit we do have a point.

[Bud Struggle]

Thats mean, classifying rl as a hate site. rl is actually against hatred in all its forms.

I feel so comfortable and accepted on here.

It certainly is no hate site.

Hopefully, you don't think I believe such a tale. :(

I was just stating the generally believed norms for sites like this. Even as an outsider I feel comfortable and accepted here. I think Stormfront is a truly EVIL site.

You guys, I have a real affection for. You mean well and you have the same end purpose as I have--we just have different means.

[Trystan]

"Racism and Hate"! Ha! The essence of this is that being Left is "hateful" because we are opposed capitalism (which also makes us a group of anti-freedom , anti-white bigots who wish to create a society of clones, no doubt:rolleyes:). Oh boo hoo.

[Bud Struggle]

Uh...going out on a limb, here, but maybe the business-owners who instituted the blocking policy? You can only call for certain peoples' deaths so many times before they get the "crazy" notion that you might, just possibly, hate them.

While I absolutely hate such censorship, I do think it is darkly amusing. Many revlefters themselves have disclaimed the primacy of free speech, and defended censorship and propaganda.

Going even further out on a limb--I don't think business owners give a fat rat's ass about RevLeft. I think it's the Social Left that see RevLeft as a problem.

[Coffee Mug]

Haha Stormfront thread about RevLeft

http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/revleft-435835.html

[careyprice31]

Hopefully, you don't think I believe such a tale. :(

I was just stating the generally believed norms for sites like this. Even as an outsider I feel comfortable and accepted here. I think Stormfront is a truly EVIL site.

You guys, I have a real affection for. You mean well and you have the same end purpose as I have--we just have different means.


I'm so glad you feel that way.

and I think revleft is really intrigued by having an actual Capitalist here on the forum, you actually owning the means of production. I could tell they were interested in you.

I know they accept you, obviously not your capitalism but you, as a nice man on the OI forum.

And so do I.

You seem a very nice man, actually.:)

[Jazzratt]

NetNanny is one of the harshest filters out there, I'm fairly sure that the reason it comes up with this "hate speech" stuff is the word "fascism" in the anti-fascism section. Loads of these filter really are that crazy.

[Os Cangaceiros]

Hopefully, you don't think I believe such a tale. :(

I was just stating the generally believed norms for sites like this. Even as an outsider I feel comfortable and accepted here. I think Stormfront is a truly EVIL site.

You guys, I have a real affection for. You mean well and you have the same end purpose as I have--we just have different means.

Yeah. I've found that most of the OIers here are treated pretty respectfully. Likewise, I think that the OIers many times bring up important points, and are (mostly) nice people.

The same treatment isn't given to people with Opposing Ideologies on the Stormfront forum, based on the few times I've looked at it.

[Dean]

http://www.boingboing.net/censorroute.html

*http://www.icehouse.net/jim_d/pics.html#Censorware

A couple more I found. This last one has a lot of links and appears very promising.

[last_angry_man]

anyplace that has some type of net nanny, also has 'remote proxy blocking' installed. I have NEVER been able to access proxy server sites, but RevLeft was fine until this morning!

[RedAnarchist]

Usually, if I find RevLefts been blocked, its normally because its a forum or its considered "chat" (presumably due to Chit Chat).

[Dean]

anyplace that has some type of net nanny, also has 'remote proxy blocking' installed. I have NEVER been able to access proxy server sites, but RevLeft was fine until this morning!

There are ways to get around that, if you are trying to use proxies, but I am not aware of them. Regardless, proxy servers can't be blocked - only specific IP addresses or proxying via your explorer's settings. if you use a proxy which is self-contained on the server, the only way for it to be blocked is via direct ip blocking, which doesn't always work.

[RHIZOMES]

Haha Stormfront thread about RevLeft

http://www.***************/forum/showthread.php/revleft-435835.html

"Communist bigots"

:laugh:

[Joby]

I wouldn't worry about those spotty unwashed skinny weaklings, they couldn't fight there way out of a paper bag if they tried. There just teenage rebels on a hormonal high not getting enough attention off mummy and daddy.

I laugh at them, like a retard dont laugh it's not there fault there brain is fuc*ed.



I've never felt ill looking at a forum but that one is terrible, i looked at a few "introductions" and the utter garbage is boggling.



Forum stats at 13.54 today.

Stormfront: 1357 (141 members and 1216 guests)

Revleft: 56 (32 guests, 22 members 2 anonymous members)


Posted on the Stormfront site from Cofee Mug's link.

I've never been on that site; they're pretty fuckin ridiculous.

[Cubensis]

Getting around your companies AUP is a great way to get fired. Many companies these days are monitoring your every keystroke while at work.

Using a proxy to get around the firewall will raise suspicion with the network admins.

[WorkingClassHero]

Hah, no kidding. I was doing some research on Che Guevara's first wife (wanted to know why they broke up) at school, and I saw a link to a topic on this site on google. I clicked it. Wanna know what category the net nanny put it under?

"Hate and Racism."

I was so pissed that I even told my friends when I got home. But hey, that's how I found out about this site.;)

[Dr Mindbender]

Tried to access RevLeft this morning and the damn corporate "new nanny" blocked access declaring RevLeft to be "hate speech"

I've managed to sneak in via my browser's "History" links, but only to the "General" section forums. This post really belongs elsehwere, like "Chit Chat, but I can't get there.

has anyone found a way around your company's net nanny for site's like RevLeft?

Something tells me that the whole site will be blocked for me within a day or two, the software is probably 'spidering' its way through the forum's links, shutting me off from everything as it goes...

God damn it! any help available?

Wow I just wish I could access the net at all at work.

We're only allowed to view 'campaign relevant' websites.

Anything else is blocked, and I do mean anything else. Beforehand that wasnt the case but if you were caught on any other site it was a potential disciplinary and sacking.

[Schrödinger's Cat]

I'm an ass to some OIers, but I'd be willing to buy them some beer if the chance came up.

Cheap beer, though. :D

[Forward Union]

I wouldn't even deprive the stormfront idiots their spot on the net.

I wouldn't because I'm not spinless enough to let fascists hold a platform in which to spread their poisen.

[Sky]

I think its a great exercise of freedom of speech. I disagree with most of the people here on core issues but at least we can debate our opinions on this forum.I disagree. Anyone who does not subscribe to a petit bourgeois anarcho-Trot world view is at the least restricted.

[Robert]

Presumably you're only fooling around here on your break time, correct? Politics aside, why should your employer pay you to surf the web and debate with strangers on company time?

[RedAnarchist]

Presumably you're only fooling around here on your break time, correct? Politics aside, why should your employer pay you to surf the web and debate with strangers on company time?

If someone is getting on with their work, why shouldn't they have revleft/another website open at the same time? I'm often on at college during a lesson and it doesn't stop me doing any work. And company time? Most of the working hours are spent giving the company a profit, so those hours were stolen from the worker anyway.

[RedAnarchist]

I disagree. Anyone who does not subscribe to a petit bourgeois anarcho-Trot world view is at the least restricted.

That is crap and you know it is. What about the Hoxhaists, some of whom are in the CC? Or the Stalinists? The Maoists?

[Robert]

You guys don't really believe in half of what you say, with all this "stolen from the workers" crap. If they are stealing from you, why do you collaborate with them by working there? Why don't you go on strike or storm the manager's office and reclaim what's rightfully yours? Don't say you don't have a choice, or you're not a real revolutionary, you're just a collaborating fraud.

Get on with the revolution or get off the pot.

[RedAnarchist]

You guys don't really believe in half of what you say, with all this "stolen from the workers" crap. If they are stealing from you, why do you collaborate with them by working there? Why don't you go on strike or storm the manager's office and reclaim what's rightfully yours? Don't say you don't have a choice, or you're not a real revolutionary, you're just a collaborating fraud.

Get on with the revolution or get off the pot.

If workers were paid for the entirety of the time they worked, then they would have much bigger wages. Half of the time employers are obscenely richer than their employees.

And all this "why don't you go on strike" stuff, do you really think that bosses will give up their huge profits in order to give their workers an higher wage? They wouldn't do it even if workers did strike.

[Robert]

In the case of giant industrial corporations, I agree. In the case of small businesses, which employ most workers in the USA, you are 1) wrong; and
2) unfair.

As for the rest of your post, I don't necessarily disagree with you. But your response to this perceived workplace inequity strikes me as faint-hearted if not hypocritical. Things will never change if the only act of revolution you undertake is to steal "back" a little time here and there at work while dreaming about revolution and arguing with me. But maybe you do do more for the revolution than I credit you for. Tell me.